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- Mar 1, 2006 10:14pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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[quote:683945ef37]Hip-Hop legends Afrika Bambaataa and Chuck D of Public Enemy recently held a Zulu Nation meeting at Harlem's National Back Theatre to discuss the issues of hip-hop.
Last Tuesday (February 22), the Supreme World Council of the Universal Zulu Nation held an emergency meeting to speak on the current state of rap music. Chuck D and Bambaataa blasted the media, particularly radio stations like New York's Hot 97 and Power 105, for "brainwashing" their listeners with their repetitive radio show playlists.
"If you're playing 50 Cent, we want to hear Common Sense," said Bambaataa. "If you play Missy Elliot, we want to hear Sonic Force. If you play Sean Paul, we want to hear Bob Marley."
This is not the first time Bambaataa has gone at Hot 97. R.E.A.C.H.Hip-Hop, a group that Bambaataa is a founding member of, has spoken out on multiple occasions against the station and Miss Jones, their morning show host.
Chuck D suggested that hip-hop artists add a variety of sound to their music, speaking directly to rap stars such as Lil' Jon and the Ying Yang Twins.
"That's all you hear is a mixture of a thug life and children," said Chuck D. "How you going to make a club song and your marketing campaign is aimed at a 14-year-old? Why? A 14-year-old can't get into the goddamn club. And not only is it a club, it's a strip club. So what the hell does an 11-year-old who rushes home from school to turn on the radio or television know about strip clubs anyway?
"This is not a building full of bitter people, bitter old recording artists who are mad that their records ain't getting played on the radio anymore," he added. "This is a town meeting for the survival of people . Hip-hop is caught up in a time where one's worth and status are contingent upon money rather than a genuine love for the music."[/quote:683945ef37]
Here we go again...
[b:683945ef37]"You can't make hip-hop into something it's not. It's not politics. Hip-hop, at the end of the day, is about beats and rhymes."[/b:683945ef37] - Todd Boyd, Professor of Critical Studies at the University of Southern California School of Cinema-Television
Boyd got it half right.
Everything is political.
Don't think Fiddy has a view of the world?
Sure he does.
It might be hedonistic, capitalistic and sexist, but it's a worldview all the same.
- Mar 1, 2006 10:59pm by Adru
...Bambaataa and chuck d are,of course,hitting the nail right on the head.its easy to say cats have the right to rap about what they want,try to get their money, all that...but then again,when you see your girls 2 and a half year old neice running around singing "my humps,my humps"and "take your pants off just a little bit"it tends to make you question that.a lot of artists are taking absolutley no responsibility for the messages the'yre putting out to the kids.they use the excuse of their music is for adults and parents should control what their kids hear--but top 40 radio and mtv,bet,are pretty much exclusively aimed at kids,and there is no way young people can avoid hearing this shit.and of course its not just sexual content--i guarantee you there are thousands of young cats locked up right now simply because they were trying to emulate their favorite rap stars and what they see in movies and television.i recently saw Saigon talking about the same thing on mtv...he spent what 7 years locked up?and he pretty much attributed it to trying to live up to the false image portrayed by his favorite emcees.the same kind of thing happened to me when i was younger.i mean,im not blaming music for mistakes i made,there were countless other factors as well-but music and entertainment definitely contributed.which is exactly why im trying to put out an uplifting message in my music.and we cant forget these huge rcord companies are controlled at the top by pretty much rich conservitive white right wing businessmen...so its obvious they would rather promote damaging stereo types than any artists with a uplifting or revolutionary message.i just wish artists would take responsibility,and i wish the radio stations would take responsibitlity.its as simple as cats just sitting down and deciding whats more imortant-money,or saving peoples lives. as far as boyds statement,its obvious he's out of touch--a lot of the most important music of the last 20 years has been hip hop songs...and all through the way theres been emcees that have faught for social and political change--and changed a lot of peoples lives in the process.
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adru and reach,
one thing artists have always done for society at large is reflect them back to themselves. if little girls are doing the butterfly well and quoting rhymes that make us reflect on ourselves then they are doing one of their jobs.
if society rewards those who do whatever they do then we are saying go ahead show us some more.
the fact that top forty radio has become so dissected is no accident, it is the truth of your current condition. concepts like equality, misogony, disrespect for women and men (objectification of each gender)and their relation, are statements of fact not illusion that our total body is making decisions about day in and out.
so for this reason, I salute BAM and Chuck D for at least not being dead to it and for having a opinion that they are willing to follow up with an action. In this present day their action is a major statement especially for black and brown people.
where do we draw our lines on social behavior? right now its girls gone wild, bitches and hoes, fake appearances, aloof intellectualism, what divides instead of younites, and essentially I'm doin ME , fu*k YOU.
that's tough but maybe necessary to evolve to the next US
I say thanks
nrg
- Mar 2, 2006 02:52pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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[quote:b10de59295="Adru"]...Bambaataa and chuck d are,of course,hitting the nail right on the head.its easy to say cats have the right to rap about what they want,try to get their money, all that...but then again,when you see your girls 2 and a half year old neice running around singing "my humps,my humps"and "take your pants off just a little bit"it tends to make you question that.a lot of artists are taking absolutley no responsibility for the messages the'yre putting out to the kids.[/quote:b10de59295]
This has always been difficult for me, but as a father of an 8-year old child I take full responsibility for what he's exposed to. When we're on the road I avoid the FM format altogether. We listen to Jazz or Sports Radio.
I can't expect Fiddy to be responsible for my child.
[quote:b10de59295]i recently saw Saigon talking about the same thing on mtv...he spent what 7 years locked up?and he pretty much attributed it to trying to live up to the false image portrayed by his favorite emcees.[/quote:b10de59295]
I think that's awfully irresponsible of Saigon.
He's not taking responsibility for his own actions.
I mean really...
He ended up in jail because of something MC Eiht said on a record?
I'm not an apologist for kids that do that kind of music I just think that it's all about choices. Each is his own.
Rap's always had messages that weren't exactly best for children to be exposed to.
This coming from someone who's always been careful about what he says.
- Mar 2, 2006 09:02pm by Adru
"one thing artists have always done for society at large is reflect them back to themselves. if little girls are doing the butterfly well and quoting rhymes that make us reflect on ourselves then they are doing one of their jobs"
.......with all respect--doing their jobs?thing is ,these "artists" shouldnt WANT little girls doing the butterfly,and quoting x rated lyrics--let alone thinking its cool and normal to dress hookerish and have sex at 11,12,13 years old.problem is a lot of them just dont give a fuck,like you said.if anyone thinks music isnt having a big influence on how young girls see themselves and behave,they're living in a huge delusion.young males as well--ya know,something that really,really makes me sick to my stomach--is that almost EVERY SINGLE woman i meet has some story of being raped,nearly raped or abused sexually when younger.NEARLY EVERY SINGLE ONE.and they have to deal with that dammage every day.this is a direct result of young people and people in general being constantly bombarded with sexual images in music and media.that is something im not willing to accept,and im not trying to sit silently waiting for things to "evolve"
"This has always been difficult for me, but as a father of an 8-year old child I take full responsibility for what he's exposed to. When we're on the road I avoid the FM format altogether. We listen to Jazz or Sports Radio.
"I can't expect Fiddy to be responsible for my child."--
again,with all respect--thats easy to say as well.what about the fact that a lot of parents dont give a damn what their kids are listening to or anything else their kids do?there's a whole lot of "parents"out there that dont deserve to be...and a lot of these kids are being raised BY popular culture.yea,its good your a responsible parent,but theres countless others who are not.this is why artists NEED to take responsibility,and saying its up to the parents is not a credible excuse.a lot of these kids have no family structure whatsoever.
quote:
i recently saw Saigon talking about the same thing on mtv...he spent what 7 years locked up?and he pretty much attributed it to trying to live up to the false image portrayed by his favorite emcees.
I think that's awfully irresponsible of Saigon.
He's not taking responsibility for his own actions.I mean really...
He ended up in jail because of something MC Eiht said on a record?
---lastly,its not irresponsible in the least.this is a cat that spent nearly a decade locked up--i know most of you have never spent a day in a cell,and you cant imagine what 7 YEARS would be like.and to come out of that being the person he is now--you have to respect him.the point he was making was a lot of the music he listened to--when he was young,he actually believed that cats led the lives they rapped about.he was a young impressionable kid....like i said in my case,there were other factors as well.but the fact is,he was so into hip hop,and so into the image that he thought was real at the time,that he did certain things he really didnt have to do,because he thought that was being real.he may not have realized then what a big influence the music had ,but he sees it now.plain and simple,whether you see that as weakness in character,or whatever,thats what happened and he was just being honest about it,and i respect him for that.like i said theres no doubt thousands more kids in the same situation.not to mention dude is one of the sickest emcees to hit the scene in a minute.he takes responsiblity for his actions,but all our actions are influenced by something,consciously or subconsciously..
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- Mar 2, 2006 09:54pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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[quote:beda9fba24="Adru"]
.......with all respect--doing their jobs?thing is ,these "artists" shouldnt WANT little girls doing the butterfly,and quoting x rated lyrics--let alone thinking its cool and normal to dress hookerish and have sex at 11,12,13 years old.problem is a lot of them just dont give a fuck,like you said.if anyone thinks music isnt having a big influence on how young girls see themselves and behave,they're living in a huge delusion.young males as well--ya know,something that really,really makes me sick to my stomach--is that almost EVERY SINGLE woman i meet has some story of being raped,nearly raped or abused sexually when younger.NEARLY EVERY SINGLE ONE.and they have to deal with that dammage every day.this is a direct result of young people and people in general being constantly bombarded with sexual images in music and media.that is something im not willing to accept,and im not trying to sit silently waiting for things to "evolve"[/quote:beda9fba24]
Shouldn't we direct this rage against the machine then?
In truth, it isn't artists like 50 Cent who determine the course of the music industry. It's the record labels and the white suits behind them.
For that matter you could also blame the market that consumes said music.
[quote:beda9fba24]again,with all respect--thats easy to say as well.what about the fact that a lot of parents dont give a damn what their kids are listening to or anything else their kids do?there's a whole lot of "parents"out there that dont deserve to be...and a lot of these kids are being raised BY popular culture.yea,its good your a responsible parent,but theres countless others who are not.this is why artists NEED to take responsibility,and saying its up to the parents is not a credible excuse.a lot of these kids have no family structure whatsoever.[/quote:beda9fba24]
Why is this finger constantly pointed at the Rap genre?
Programming on television is every bit as hedonistic.
Why isn't anyone potshotting racy reality shows?
Why isn't anyone boycotting overly violent video games?
I mean, where do you draw the line?
[quote:beda9fba24]---lastly,its not irresponsible in the least.this is a cat that spent nearly a decade locked up--i know most of you have never spent a day in a cell,and you cant imagine what 7 YEARS would be like.[/quote:beda9fba24]
I'm not sure how this has anything to do with anything else...
It's irresponsible to blame anything other than yourself for your own misconduct.
[quote:beda9fba24]he was a young impressionable kid....like i said in my case,there were other factors as well.but the fact is,he was so into hip hop,and so into the image that he thought was real at the time,that he did certain things he really didnt have to do,because he thought that was being real.he may not have realized then what a big influence the music had ,but he sees it now.plain and simple,whether you see that as weakness in character,or whatever,thats what happened and he was just being honest about it,and i respect him for that.[/quote:beda9fba24]
I respect the fact that he now decries that particular brand of Rap...
I'm hard-pressed to respect a man who points a finger at Rap music.
I was a young impressionable kid. Who wasn't?
I grew up listening to NWA, Ice Cube and Ice-T.
I ain't knocking kids over.
I'm no better than he is, I'm just pointing out the fact that life is about choices.
- Mar 2, 2006 11:09pm by Atilla_Beatsmith - [email protected]
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As was hinted to earlier, this whole situation stems from much deeper in the society than just the music. it's very difficult, because the elements of this current situation are so dependent upon the next....
It's hard to help a culture when A) one portion of the people in it doesn't want to change, and B) another [i:0afea53148]cant[/i:0afea53148]. Yes, the system does make it extremely hard for some of our people to progress, but by no means does that mean that we shouldn't [i:0afea53148]try[/i:0afea53148]. Even in days of the old minstrel shows, there were some that were perfectly fine demeaning themselves for the pleasures of others. And of course there were those whose pride tormented them for such actions. I don't know, it seems like those feelings have been preserved through the generations , and have melded together to form a very self-destructive attitude. You know there's always those that want to blame everything negative on the white man, but have no problem going out to sell crack to his own people.
It's hard not to have mixed emotions about this, because you have to have some self pride to survive. But you have to be able to avoid ignorance. theres 2 things involved in the growth of a people (in the very simplified form that is):
1. Accept the past, learn from mistakes, and acknowledge where you came from, and
2. Move forward
that last step seems to be forgotten a lot. There are many people out there today that are both accepting and rejecting the negative images that others have of them. They love living the lifestyle that they live, but hate when others hold a mirror up and bring out the flaws. We all have flaws, nobody is perfect, but...I think that since we have so much [i:0afea53148]"catching up"[/i:0afea53148] to do, that pointing out our "flaws" seems to be a direct discrimination of our ethnicity (that is, when these "flaws" are pointed out by the society as a whole, which just so happen to be influenced by white anglo-saxon protestants...on the other hand if it's pointed out by a black person...its [i:0afea53148]comedy[/i:0afea53148] *caugh*Dave Chappelle*caugh*). So...what do we do to combat this discrimination?.......take what was looked at as a flaw a turn it into a strongpoint (this is a trait that has been exhibited by our people many times...not gonna get into that though). Sadly doing this results in fueling stereotypes.
And with more and more media trying to be [i:0afea53148]hip[/i:0afea53148], they keep their ear to the street and see what's good. If this seems to be the stuff we talk about all the time and take so much pride in, wouldn't we wan't to hear it in our favorite music? of course.
And what results from this?...
either a) the people that don't want to change or b) those that can't endeavor to fill this "job wanted" message sent out by the media. and...
They get the job, perpetuate the stereotypes, and continue drawing out this vicious circle.
- Mar 2, 2006 11:18pm by Adru
"Shouldn't we direct this rage against the machine then?
In truth, it isn't artists like 50 Cent who determine the course of the music industry. It's the record labels and the white suits behind them.
For that matter you could also blame the market that consumes said music."
yea..i said that in my first post.."we cant forget the huge record labels..."etc...and that the radio stations need to take responsibility.
"Why is this finger constantly pointed at the Rap genre?
Programming on television is every bit as hedonistic.
Why isn't anyone potshotting racy reality shows?
Why isn't anyone boycotting overly violent video games?
I mean, where do you draw the line?--"
yea,again--in both my posts ive said music ,media,television,and entertainment in general.
"I'm not sure how this has anything to do with anything else...
It's irresponsible to blame anything other than yourself for your own misconduct."
it has everything to do with it because this is a cat that,again,spent nearly a decade locked up and actaually lived the life a lot of rappers lie about and glamorize.yea,you have to take responsibility,but regardless,he's just stating what happened with him--and what happens with a lot of kids.I KNOW i did stupid shit when i was younger that was directly influenced by music,t.v. and movies--we ALL have,whether you want to admit it or not.
"i respect the fact that he now decries that particular brand of Rap...
I'm hard-pressed to respect a man who points a finger at Rap music. "
"I was a young impressionable kid. Who wasn't?
I grew up listening to NWA, Ice Cube and Ice-T.
I ain't knocking kids over.
"I'm no better than he is, I'm just pointing out the fact that life is about choices."
again--he,as i am,is stating what happend to HIM.its not like im gaining bragging rights by saying when i was 16 i started robbing houses so i could get high and rock cross colours and polos.....i was a stupid ignorant kid.ive told you,reach,many times i love and respect your music.to say you cant respect him(or me for that matter)for saying what influenced him as a kid,it just well,shows somewht of an an elitist attitude.espescially when the dude is so incredibly talented,risen from nothing,and trying to elevate peoples minds with his music.yea-lifes in part all about choices,but some people arent equipped to make the right choices at certain times of their lives,espescially when surrounded at all angles by negativity.
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- Mar 3, 2006 01:59pm by Adru
..reach-it may have been easier to just say--read my first post,it backs up every point you were trying to prove to me.atilla-your words are felt--theres so many factors to the whole thing,and of course the whole issue runs deeper than entertainment.young people of every race and religion,and our entire society for that matter has been deliberately conditioned to behave as they do,and believe what they do.entertainment and entertainers are just an extension of it all.sad thing is a lot of these cats know damn well they're tools,but dont give a fuck.get money....like you said,a viscious cycle.
- Mar 3, 2006 06:17pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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[quote:433b865907="Adru"]
ive told you,reach,many times i love and respect your music.to say you cant respect him(or me for that matter)for saying what influenced him as a kid,it just well,shows somewht of an an elitist attitude.[/quote:433b865907]
Only if you assign your own interpretation to my commentary without having taken what I said into account. Elitism is defined as a belief system that certain persons deserve favorable treatment by virtue of perceived superiority.
I prefaced my commentary in saying I was no better than he.
That qualified my commentary from jump.
It's difficult for me to see a man point a finger at the very thing he makes his livelihood off of.
[quote:433b865907]yea-lifes in part all about choices,but some people arent equipped to make the right choices at certain times of their lives,espescially when surrounded at all angles by negativity.[/quote:433b865907]
Not everyone that comes from a slum will grow to lead a life of crime.
I know kids to this day that grew up in the church and bare no resemblance to anything remotely Christian. Conversely, I know cats that grew up in the worst neighborhoods you can imagine working as politicians at the highest state levels.
It's all about choices.
I can dig the fact that he may have been influenced by the negative images that permeated the music he ingested, but to blame said music for his own indiscretions is a pill too big for me to swallow.
- Mar 3, 2006 06:44pm by StikFiga - "i could never be a thug, they dont dress this well"--Malice of the Clipse
i dont know about all that, but gangsta shit has been around before hiphop, and will always be here. who influenced people who were doin all that bad shit before hiphop was so wildly popular?
c'mon yall lets get real here!
take some of our parents for example! my pops, grew up in poverty in the deep south-and some would even say he was a thug, the music back then wasnt influencing him, it was marvin gaye and all that positive black soul music, but my pops was still thuggin'. where's the explanation? now hes a teacher, had some kids changed his perspective--hates rap hahaa
im jus sayin...
- Mar 3, 2006 07:16pm by Deta!L - I just said that so you would stop bothering me.
I don't have much to add to this, but I dont' think people are shooting each other in the face at EMO rock shows...there's got to be some sort of correlation
- Mar 3, 2006 08:17pm by Adru
...i'd like to shoot a couple emo kids in the face..
but naw..stick-i hear you man....but for real,back in the days the majority of "gangsters" were gangsters out of neccesity.a lot of kids nowadays are just trying to be what they think is supposed to be real.there will still always be those that do dirt out of complete neccesity-its a result of how this society is set up.me,i was somewhat a combination of the two--when i was real young,i was just trying to be cool and do what my friends did,honestly.--when i got older,i got kicked out at barely 17 with no nothing.i had to do something to put a roof over my head and food in my stomach.but of course im sure a lot of cats back then were drawn into it because they saw the gangsters and hustlers with all the money women and clothes--just like kids do now(yes,its not just music)but they just saw them out on the block,not mass marketed on t.v.,movies and radio.then and now is really no comparison,all you have to do is look at crime and murder rates,the prison population..shit is FUCKED right now.i repeat FUCKED.commercial music and entertainment is just one fragment in the power structure. also being gangster back then didnt necessarily used to involve automatic weapons and gold plated hummer tanks.unless you were in the prohibition era on some al capone shit.....
and reach--you spent 3 quarters of that post trying to say I was pointing a finger at just music.then,while talking about saigon,i guess--said your hard pressed to repect a man that points a finger at rap music.how exactly am i supposed to interpret that?the elitist comment,that words stuck in my head for some reason--but still thats how isee it-- i said that because i explained over and over,there were all kinds of OTHER FACTORS--but music did play a part--which is all the dude was saying,and what im still saying.after all that,you say you dont respect him,a GOOD MAN that spent almost a decade in a shithole prison.plus an INSANELY sick emcee,--crazy wordplay,ill concepts,grimey yet intellectual,with a positive message-that
would not only complwtely crush the shit out of "fiddy"in any kind of battle,
but probably shove a mic stand down his throat if he had a chance.so yea,im hard pressed to see that as anything but hating and a closed mind.again with all due respect,i think your a great dude and in all actuality your one of my favorite emcees around here,ive told you that.but sometimes we gotta open our eyes and try to understand what its like in someone elses shoes.we're all different,and for whatever reason we all respond differently to ertain situations.by the way you shoulda got that free c.d i sent you.dont use it as a coaster now.peace
- Mar 3, 2006 08:34pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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[quote:01bec69333="Adru"]and reach--you spent 3 quarters of that post trying to say I was pointing a finger at just music.then,while talking about saigon,i guess--said your hard pressed to repect a man that points a finger at rap music.how exactly am i supposed to interpret that?[/quote:01bec69333]
That's not for me to decide.
I can't control how you interpret what I've had to say.
You're making this personal. It isn't.
The point I've made, repeatedly, is that blaming Rap music for your own indiscretions is flat wrong. Especially when you know the difference between right and wrong. Simple.
I spent the majority of my post dispelling the notion that I'm an elitist.
At the end of the day, I can't make you believe that.
[quote:01bec69333]after all that,you say you dont respect him,a GOOD MAN that spent almost a decade in a shithole prison.plus an INSANELY sick emcee,--crazy wordplay,ill concepts,grimey yet intellectual,with a positive message[/quote:01bec69333]
I never judge a man on his artistic abilities.
We're people first. I look past what he may offer artistically.
This isn't about his art. It's about his position on Rap.
[quote:01bec69333]i think your a great dude and in all actuality your one of my favorite emcees around here,ive told you that.but sometimes we gotta open our eyes and try to understand what its like in someone elses shoes.[/quote:01bec69333]
I understand completely.
My older brother is in prison at this very moment.
And poor choices landed him there. I don't love him any less for it.
I just know that he can't blame music, television or anything else for bad decisions.
He has no one but himself to blame.
Like I said, I've done a bunch of dumb ish in my day.
I will never stand in front of kids and pretend I'm better than they.
That's not my bag. (See: "All I Can Do" produced by: Miles Bonny).
I detail this very point in that song.
[quote:01bec69333]by the way you shoulda got that free c.d i sent you.dont use it as a coaster now.peace[/quote:01bec69333]
Come on now.
I won't do nothing, but rock it until it's warped.
I don't use coasters anyway... I'm thugged out son... *Laughing*
- Mar 3, 2006 10:52pm by Adru
Reach,just so you know,ive had this same discussion time and time again with best friends,girlfriends,whatever..and its gotten a whole lot more heated than this.its nothing personal at all.i felt like you skipped over a few things i said at the beginning,and this is something i feel strongly about.im 31 years old,and ive spent almost half my adult life institutionalized in some way..
what ive been through is why i feel so strongly.now,im kinda happy in a way i went thru it all,because i like to think im still here to help other people avoid that shit...i dont want anyone going through this--another thing is while ive been locked up with some sick fucks(another product of this society)ive met the best people in MY LIFE for the most part behind bars.theres a lot of good people locked up as you obviously know reach.--some for fucking LIFE on some 3 strikes shit just for selling dope.this is the cycle that needs to end. i started off on the wrong path when i was real young--and that path,while it was always my decision--was cluttered by fucked up friends(who were also inspired by the wrong things,as well as their environment),fucked up situations i didnt have to be in--and lastly,but far from least important--the images i was hit with in popular culture..which in the end made me feel like i was somebody just because i lived like that--robbed houses,sold dope,fought a lot,whatever....it of course wasnt the only factor,but it definitely doesnt help any kid thats trying to figure out who they are.this is why the main point of all this--is artists-musicians,actors,directors,writers,whatever--if they care about their communities or the future of this country--they have to take responsibitlity at some point.we all have to take responsibility,or things in this country and world will continually get worse.but of course it'll never happen,and things will just get worse until some real drastic measures are taken.damn...im done,ive been on here way too much,time to go make a beat.1
- Mar 4, 2006 08:43pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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Love is love bro.
This is why we need this forum.
To have real discussions on real issues.
PS. Got the disc. "Seed" is my ish...
Love that one. Hell, I love the whole thing.
- Mar 5, 2006 04:25pm by Adru
...word man...yea,that seed song really means a lot to me--even made my singing debut on that shit~:)but thanks,for real....but yea..im not really much for message boards and all that,just got caught up in that one.had to detox from computers for a couple days.but that one comment-you know the one--didnt mean it exactly how it came across.....i love your music,and i think you CAN judge a man somewhat by his art,when you write thats your soul pouring out.i knock your shit all the time,its good therapy.stay up...peace
- Mar 5, 2006 07:37pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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Thanks for the words of encouragement.
Can't wait for your full-length joint.
Stay up. Pace.