Topic: HHKC
- Sep 5, 2009 02:04pm by MILES - [url]http://www.MilesBonny.com/[/url] Location: KCK
[quote:73edd23423="NRG"][quote:73edd23423="Lucidialect"]I think this board is cursed, or something. It's got some consistently bad vibes floating around on it. [/quote:73edd23423]
is it time for this board to die? can it be made better with a different vision/mission easy to criticize harder to make a go of it
what say yall. thei board's 4 you all
let me know
nrg[/quote:73edd23423]
somehow a fresh start visually may feel good... those decisions changes and ideas should be up to administrators though. But also a change in the mentality of the artists seeking listeners would also need to happen. I feel the hip hop scene is disjointed and a lil confused presently.
what do you all think should happen?
- Sep 5, 2009 11:25pm by NRG - livin the art that is life !
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if I were a programmer it would be done this weekend, the visual part that is.
as for the local artists and their disconnect/fragmentation, I won't speak on that, as I am not on that side of things much. I wish them luck with creating a new vision for this tool I created to support their creativity.
if you got programing/design skills and think the site could use a new shell and wanna work for free like me, holla. I'm down for listening, learning and changing.
have a safe weekend out there.
nrg
- Sep 6, 2009 04:03pm by MILES - [url]http://www.MilesBonny.com/[/url] Location: KCK
anyone else on this site, users etc, have any ideas or thoughts?
- Sep 6, 2009 06:18pm by leonarddstroy
this board is dead. at this point i dont think anything will bring it back. too much bs...too much censorship...
time for a new forum/board/site what have you...i dont know how many people have told me they dont go to this site because of all the childish antics that take place here.
😕
- Sep 8, 2009 02:06am by MILES - [url]http://www.MilesBonny.com/[/url] Location: KCK
This post and the lack of activity on it speaks volumes to me. This is the heart of the reason this forum and its members have failed. Lack of pro-active participation. Your lack of an answer is the answer itself.
(__silence)
am i wrong?
- Sep 8, 2009 03:55am by Deta!L - I just said that so you would stop bothering me.
you are correct sir!
Lawrence hip hop was way better? or was it just because I was younger and still enthusiastic about making and participating in music? I don't even know man, I know I'm proud of Stik, Miles, Quest and the rest of the local heads who make good music and get recognized worldwide...
- Sep 8, 2009 04:33am by thePhantom* - Vessel for the muse.
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This site need's 1) a facelift 2) non-artists // appreciators of hip-hop.
More so 1 than 2 because 2 will come when 1 happens. We need to be able to tweet, email and do all that other social networking stuff in order to even seem relevant. Obviously, I won't even pretend to know where to take it but I think that's in order. Google the term web 2.0 -- we're in need of it.
One of the MAJOR things this site is in desperate need of is a "Download Thread" where people - artists or not - can download local music/media. Where else can people do that? You would think this would be the place to do it. Everyone on here has their stuff on Zshare/Megaupload - what have you. This way we can create a cycle.
At this point, this forum is little more than an arbitrary destination for local heads or peeping toms who have an unlikely fascination for petty arguments, tension and occasional support. Support amongst a large group of artists is a fantasy - haha - we should face that. So we should pitch to outsiders.
The site should not die. It's just all about relevancy - supply and demand. So far our supply has outweighed our demand. We have to create a demand - that will in turn create a market - which creates relevancy.
- Sep 8, 2009 09:41am by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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HipHopKC's like anything else. Everything hits a lull at some point and needs new lifeblood to catch a second wind.
I believe in the site.
I believe in what it can be.
I don't think censorship is HipHopKC's problem.
ALL of the popular networking sites have some sort of policy against abusive language, personal attacks, and such. That's stat quo...
And I think if HHKC has ever had a problem... It's been being far too lenient on those who've violated said policy and run other posters off...for good.
The site does need a facelift (aesthetically), but I think it's still necessary and relevant. It might also benefit from a revision of the sub-forums available.
- Sep 8, 2009 03:10pm by MilkDrop - http://milkisrhyming.blogspot.com/
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i don't think it's the site, as in its' appearance, but the appearance of what goes on on the site that has caused the lull in activity.
it seems to me alot of the time people that are regulars on this board aren't interested, don't comment, or don't follow new music as a whole.
personally if i want to see what heads think about the new Raekwon or Jay-Z leak i'm going to 2dopeboyz over coming here to see a thread with 12 views and maybe 1 comment.
it's like no one in KC is excited about hip hop right now.
- Sep 9, 2009 01:39pm by Lucidialect
[quote:da6b5aed2e]Lawrence hip hop was way better? or was it just because I was younger and still enthusiastic about making and participating in music?[/quote:da6b5aed2e]
I don't know either, but the vibe there always seemed better. And there were a LOT more people posting.
[quote:da6b5aed2e]One of the MAJOR things this site is in desperate need of is a "Download Thread" where people - artists or not - can download local music/media. Where else can people do that? You would think this would be the place to do it. Everyone on here has their stuff on Zshare/Megaupload - what have you.[/quote:da6b5aed2e]
That would be dope.
[quote:da6b5aed2e]At this point, this forum is little more than an arbitrary destination for local heads or peeping toms who have an unlikely fascination for petty arguments, tension and occasional support.[/quote:da6b5aed2e]
Well said.
- Sep 9, 2009 07:39pm by DR.T - nuts .. haha Location: KCMO
People equate "the scene" with hiphopkc .... and most artist i talked to HATE that term "the scene" ... and run from it like disease. Bad feelings and feelings of underappreciation surround "the scene" and hiphopkc.
I don't think HiphopKC can be resurrected. I think a new board altogether is due. quite honestly.
- Sep 9, 2009 10:44pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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[quote:5c002ed667="DR.T"]People equate "the scene" with hiphopkc .... and most artist i talked to HATE that term "the scene" ... and run from it like disease. Bad feelings and feelings of underappreciation surround "the scene" and hiphopkc.[/quote:5c002ed667]
Ah, but therein lies the rub.
People confuse the politics, mentalities, attitudes, and behaviors of the individuals that make up the "scene" WITH "the scene".
"Scene", in my estimation, is nothing more than the collection of musicians and artists within a given area that make music in some capacity professional or otherwise.
I think that just might be the problem.
Calling a club a spade.
- Sep 10, 2009 09:32pm by JohnnyQuest
my 2 cents: this shit is dead. not because of the look or age of the site. not because of "abusive" posters (in comparison to other boards i go to people on here are pretty tame). it's because of the underlying hate and discontinuity of us collectively as musicians. the artist in this area are ridiculous, as soon as someone starts to do something, the hating begins. it's rarely overt ( read: pussies). ask any of the artist here who have been mildly successful. people say shit out of the side of their mouth and don't really enjoy the music anymore because their focus is no longer on the music. their attention has no been diverted to the dislike of an individual based on the success of music they used to enjoy before that person got more popular than them, or got a article in the pitch when they didn't, or got a guest spot they wanted, whatever the case may be. i don't know where this jealousy comes from, but it is the main source of problems with this site and in our community in general as i see it.
- Sep 10, 2009 11:27pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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I think you make a great point Quest.
Thing is...jealousy and envy are human problems. If we can't get them fixed in our everyday lives I don't see how we'll ever hope to accomplish that with the "scene". I'm also not sure how we navigate around that particular problem OR if we need to...
They say the best revenge is success...
So, brush your shoulders off and keep the line moving.
- Sep 10, 2009 11:43pm by MILES - [url]http://www.MilesBonny.com/[/url] Location: KCK
i agree quest
and reach i understand...
Ive ben watching teh raw footage (20+ hours) of interview with a handful of artists most involved in the Lawrencehiphop.com era.. this is the raw footage collected and vcaptured by jon allen for his Looking For Today documentary.
im talking about interviews in 2002 with approach / mac / guild . ces/ sounds good / close encouters / etc... archetype...
and very littel bitterness and self pity existed in that circle at that time.. i see excited people.. not people complaining about whether other people work with them or not. People are putting in work and moving ahead. I may do a re-edit. becasue there is so much that is said that wasnt included in the movie.
Given that recent experience.. it does get back to negative and self loathing. Those are the diseases that run rampant within members who use this board.
beyond that.. hip hop is so broad. Tastes are not shared as they once were. Lawrencehiphop.com came after mp3.com // pre facebook. pre myspace. pre twitter. there are other ways to express yourself online now. beyond that. Take into account that the hip hop community in kc has no general feel of community .. just the sad and failing sense of negative competition.
Personally, i just speak on what i think is worth saying. If im not interested in a post, i avoid it. maybe we should be more proactive.. maybe all be more honest. Although too often when i am... the discussion ends. It seems everyone on hhkc wants to be right. Everyone wants to be the "winner". It'd help if everyone wanted to spur real local dialogue. Then when people make valid points. everyone is quiet. or scared? or i dont know...
lets seek growth and answers... not walk in circles...
[b:88cc889212]SOME IDEAS[/b:88cc889212]
[i:88cc889212]* if we attempts to discuss whether "the scene exists" or some common and often repeated post discussions, and people care about this site.. we will post a link to the last time it was discussed. we will organize ourselves and our content.
* if someone talks trash that isn't constructive, call them out.
* lets remove barriers from accessing the forum. If we want people to easily join the community lets not create barriers via ads etc to them getting to the goods.
* stickys must be taken down and put up daily. Those who run the board must demonstrate a commitment to participate in maintaining the content and theerby set a precedent for the users.
* lets make effort to post new topics, and at least reply in some form to other's posts. [/i:88cc889212]
if this is going to turn around and work..
[b:88cc889212]NO MORE SLACKING AND NEGATIVITY.[/b:88cc889212] Just proactive efforts.
- Sep 11, 2009 12:02am by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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[quote:b94200bfe1="MILES"]Ive ben watching teh raw footage (20+ hours) of interview with a handful of artists most involved in the Lawrencehiphop.com era.. this is the raw footage collected and vcaptured by jon allen for his Looking For Today documentary.
im talking about interviews in 2002 with approach / mac / guild . ces/ sounds good / close encouters / etc... archetype...
and very littel bitterness and self pity existed in that circle at that time.. i see excited people.. not people complaining about whether other people work with them or not. People are putting in work and moving ahead. I may do a re-edit. becasue there is so much that is said that wasnt included in the movie.[/quote:b94200bfe1]
I think the same spirit exists with the aforementioned artists. It's been replicated by many others since that time. I believe that will always exist in ANY scene. There will always be self-starters. There will always be those who are proactively nurturing fellow artists. There will always be a communal aspect. Unfortunately... That will always accompany jealousy, envy, negativity, a lack of professionalism, etc.
[quote:b94200bfe1]beyond that.. hip hop is so broad. Tastes are not shared as they once were. Lawrencehiphop.com came after mp3.com // pre facebook. pre myspace. pre twitter. there are other ways to express yourself online now.[/quote:b94200bfe1]
Excellent point. The landscape of the Internet itself has changed.
And we've changed with it.
- Sep 11, 2009 02:52am by NRG - livin the art that is life !
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miles said:
SOME IDEAS
* if we attempts to discuss whether "the scene exists" or some common and often repeated post discussions, and people care about this site.. we will post a link to the last time it was discussed. we will organize ourselves and our content.
* if someone talks trash that isn't constructive, call them out.
* lets remove barriers from accessing the forum. If we want people to easily join the community lets not create barriers via ads etc to them getting to the goods.
* stickys must be taken down and put up daily. Those who run the board must demonstrate a commitment to participate in maintaining the content and theerby set a precedent for the users.
* lets make effort to post new topics, and at least reply in some form to other's posts.
if this is going to turn around and work..
NO MORE SLACKING AND NEGATIVITY. Just proactive efforts.
- Sep 11, 2009 03:04am by NRG - livin the art that is life !
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I have been slackin, no doubt
I have become jaded by the bickering, negativity,
I had hoped there would be more, communtiy spirit, supportive dialogue, honest, helpful critique of projects, and less personal attacks
I have felt hopeless and lost about the future of this site's purpose
thanks miles for your proactive ideas
I will commit to checking into upcoming events daily to make adjustments
to posting I welcome help with this job in the form of moderators
I will offer honest comments and critiques
I will start again to call out negativity even when called a censor
I will work with anyone to better this site
miles do you mean remove the click through ad space and or remove the need of membership to access message boards?
are there other ideas along this line
- Sep 11, 2009 06:57am by NRG - livin the art that is life !
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speak john. appreciate your candor.
thank you
- Sep 11, 2009 07:42am by NRG - livin the art that is life !
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[quote:d6f575db93="thePhantom*"]This site need's 1) a facelift 2) non-artists // appreciators of hip-hop.[/quote:d6f575db93]
facelift : check
non artists: got any suggestions about how this happens
[quote:d6f575db93] More so 1 than 2 because 2 will come when 1 happens. We need to be able to tweet, email and do all that other social networking stuff in order to even seem relevant. Obviously, I won't even pretend to know where to take it but I think that's in order. Google the term web 2.0 -- we're in need of it.[/quote:d6f575db93]
more 1 than 2 statement, been there done that, asked members what they would like to see, got no response, so struck out on my own with a member who did remake based on my specs, got a write up in the pitch about makeover, a few more members and hits
regarding tweet, don't have a clue
regarding email, you can email from any member from this board now, as well as Private message within the board
regarding new technology: clueless got suggestions about how, great, I'm all ears
[quote:d6f575db93]One of the MAJOR things this site is in desperate need of is a "Download Thread" where people - artists or not - can download local music/media. Where else can people do that? You would think this would be the place to do it. Everyone on here has their stuff on Zshare/Megaupload - what have you. This way we can create a cycle.[/quote:d6f575db93]
top menu jump page under Music are downloadable local music, shows, videos........do you want a thread in the message board that does the same?
[quote:d6f575db93]At this point, this forum is little more than an arbitrary destination for local heads or peeping toms who have an unlikely fascination for petty arguments, tension and occasional support. Support amongst a large group of artists is a fantasy - haha - we should face that. So we should pitch to outsiders.[/quote:d6f575db93]
regarding peeping toms- only members have access to community chatter a decision I made once the bickering got over the top
regarding local heads- do you mean fans, artists, club owners please be more targeted about heads
what I can say about the interactions on this board is that for the most part they are fine/normal human interactions. occasionally things boil over or conversely, hit a lull. whatever happens on this board happens because of the folks who post here. if you feel something is over the top, check it, if you wanna talk about it, start a thread, if you feel you're being attacked, report the attacker to one of the moderators etc. . . . my last observation is this, it seems what happens here also happens at many of the shows I attend, ie for the most part friendly, some folks talking among themselves, but not an overwhelming sense of support or comraderie simply folks seeking out what interest them.
[quote:d6f575db93]The site should not die. It's just all about relevancy - supply and demand. So far our supply has outweighed our demand. We have to create a demand - that will in turn create a market - which creates relevancy.[/quote:d6f575db93]
again, this can be seen at shows where the same folks show up, as far as I can see up to this point, there has never been a concerted interest in banding together to attract who are not down with hiphop. Hiphop and Jazz to some degree is an insider's community. If you not down, you not down wit it. to my knowledge outside of fliers, word of mouth friend to friend"come see my show" stuff, there has not been a push to introduce, share, recruit non hiphop oriented attendance or participators. to me, this makes moot, the idea of supply and demand. I don't see the relation if this is the general attitude
thanks for takin the time to respond.
- Sep 11, 2009 02:02pm by NRG - livin the art that is life !
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[quote:eebc7622e8="Reach."]HipHopKC's like anything else. Everything hits a lull at some point and needs new lifeblood to catch a second wind.[/quote:eebc7622e8]
I noticed a wider range of posters for a while now. mostly promoting their events and projects
[quote:eebc7622e8]I believe in the site.[/quote:eebc7622e8]
me too! course you know that from our convos
[quote:eebc7622e8]I believe in what it can be.[/quote:eebc7622e8]
I would love to here your vision of what this site can be
[quote:eebc7622e8]I don't think censorship is HipHopKC's problem.
ALL of the popular networking sites have some sort of policy against abusive language, personal attacks, and such. That's stat quo...
And I think if HHKC has ever had a problem... It's been being far too lenient on those who've violated said policy and run other posters off...for good. [/quote:eebc7622e8]
and still the word censorcensorship often comes up, I'm confused about what level of freedom/responsibility comes with posting/membership. one thing has been proven to me tho, the content of this site is reflective of those who choose to post here. that creates the environment of the site
[quote:eebc7622e8]The site does need a facelift (aesthetically), but I think it's still necessary and relevant. It might also benefit from a revision of the sub-forums available.[/quote:eebc7622e8]
wish I knew how, but I don't. I like your site and miles new site please introduce me to site creators who wanna try this site on and recieve the credit for that
- Sep 11, 2009 06:16pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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Necia you made an excellent point. The site can be nothing, but a collection of the ideas and attitudes of the people who utilize it.
[i:e6d37154a7]What's gettin ready to happen with Hip-Hop?"
(Where do you think Hip-Hop is goin?)
I tell em, "You know what's gonna happen with Hip-Hop?
Whatever's happening with us"
If we smoked out, Hip-Hop is gonna be smoked out
If we doin alright, Hip-Hop is gonna be doin alright
People talk about Hip-Hop like it's some giant livin in the hillside
comin down to visit the townspeople
We (are) Hip-Hop
Me, you, everybody, we are Hip-Hop
So Hip-Hop is goin where we goin
So the next time you ask yourself where Hip-Hop is goin
ask yourself.. where am I goin? How am I doin?[/i:e6d37154a7]
- Sep 11, 2009 06:49pm by DR.T - nuts .. haha Location: KCMO
WE NEED MOAR PR WORK!
- Sep 11, 2009 07:36pm by NRG - livin the art that is life !
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[quote:9195a390b1="DR.T"]WE NEED MOAR PR WORK![/quote:9195a390b1]
that's a pretty broad statement T, what do you have in mind?
spell it on out specifics?
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[quote:46866dd676="Reach."]Necia you made an excellent point. The site can be nothing, but a collection of the ideas and attitudes of the people who utilize it.
[i:46866dd676]What's gettin ready to happen with Hip-Hop?"
(Where do you think Hip-Hop is goin?)
I tell em, "You know what's gonna happen with Hip-Hop?
Whatever's happening with us"
If we smoked out, Hip-Hop is gonna be smoked out
If we doin alright, Hip-Hop is gonna be doin alright
People talk about Hip-Hop like it's some giant livin in the hillside
comin down to visit the townspeople
We (are) Hip-Hop
Me, you, everybody, we are Hip-Hop
So Hip-Hop is goin where we goin
So the next time you ask yourself where Hip-Hop is goin
ask yourself.. where am I goin? How am I doin?[/i:46866dd676][/quote:46866dd676]
love this monologue from "Black on Both Sides" by Mos Def. I listen to it often to keep my spirits high
- Sep 11, 2009 08:45pm by DR.T - nuts .. haha Location: KCMO
[quote:223a86f3a0="NRG"][quote:223a86f3a0="DR.T"]WE NEED MOAR PR WORK![/quote:223a86f3a0]
that's a pretty broad statement T, what do you have in mind?
spell it on out specifics?[/quote:223a86f3a0]
I mean like .... to us, hiphopkc is old news. But to the MAJORITY of people who makes and listen to hip hop here in KC ... they dont know about it. Try to entice the old "fuddy duddys" who left this board to come back aint gonna happen. So newer cats is the way to go .... so we gotta promote hiphopkc some more ... MOAR!
- Sep 11, 2009 08:52pm by MILES - [url]http://www.MilesBonny.com/[/url] Location: KCK
promotion helps. but that is a step beyond making sure the item being promoted is up to par first. Current Users need to get their heads on the same page somewhat before new people stop by and get turned off.
- Sep 11, 2009 09:02pm by DR.T - nuts .. haha Location: KCMO
[quote:a6a3d90aa4="MILES"]promotion helps. but that is a step beyond making sure the item being promoted is up to par first. Current Users need to get their heads on the same page somewhat before new people stop by and get turned off.[/quote:a6a3d90aa4]
This is true ... but how we gonna do that?
- Sep 14, 2009 07:50am by NRG - livin the art that is life !
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everyone on here read the mission statement?
anyone on here, utilize all or most of the features offered here?
most everyone tell folks to check upcoming events for what's poppin off during the week?
do you use this site beyond making a statement or offering your opinion on a statement?
have you made a suggestion that you feel would beef the site up?
do you think big me, even BIGGER US when you come to the site?
in my humble opinion, these are great places to start to make the site more vital to the entire city/metro
ever recommended the site picks to someone as a way to learn more about hiphop's history?
ever read a business article under biz top menu
posted a link to your latest music under the top menu
submitted a link to a hiphop site you frequent?
post any pictures from your recent event in the photo gallery under shows
or candid shots taken while out at a show
ever included hiphopkc.com as a part of your signature in your outgoing emails
you get the drift, I could go on
- Sep 14, 2009 06:25pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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This mission to "please everybody" will end in futility.
I promise you that.
HHKC will NEVER have the right look for everyone.
It'll NEVER have the right atmosphere for everyone.
Either it's for you...or it's not.
And that's okay. That's pretty much par for the life course.
If there can be a change in the site's aesthetics and those who are calling for it (present company included) are willing to do the design work or pay for it... So be it. If not... Go fish.
I think often times we ask far too much of the site and we hold it responsible for what we lack outside of it.
- Sep 14, 2009 09:29pm by MILES - [url]http://www.MilesBonny.com/[/url] Location: KCK
[quote:e15b6c10db="Reach."]
If there can be a change in the site's aesthetics and those who are calling for it (present company included) are willing to do the design work or pay for it... So be it. If not... Go fish.
I think often times we ask far too much of the site and we hold it responsible for what we lack outside of it.[/quote:e15b6c10db]
for obvious reasons (keep reading), i preferred this site's original design.. mainly royal blue and yellow, which I created. however since i didnt change it to this one, i have no idea how to update it again.
- Sep 15, 2009 03:53pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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[quote:d8c4b36af3="MILES"][quote:d8c4b36af3="Reach."]
If there can be a change in the site's aesthetics and those who are calling for it (present company included) are willing to do the design work or pay for it... So be it. If not... Go fish.
I think often times we ask far too much of the site and we hold it responsible for what we lack outside of it.[/quote:d8c4b36af3]
for obvious reasons (keep reading), i preferred this site's original design.. mainly royal blue and yellow, which I created. however since i didnt change it to this one, i have no idea how to update it again.[/quote:d8c4b36af3]
I'm in the "the site needs a facelift" camp, but I'm just as unable to assist with the makeover. That's partly why I don't make such a fuss about it.
I think Necia's more than willing to accommodate anyone willing to make design changes. Someone step forward and we can resolve this problem.
- Sep 15, 2009 05:29pm by NRG - livin the art that is life !
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[quote:6836901e73="MILES"]
for obvious reasons (keep reading), i preferred this site's original design.. mainly royal blue and yellow, which I created. however since i didnt change it to this one, i have no idea how to update it again.[/quote:6836901e73]
if I remember correctly, didn't you and mark work to get the skin you created set up? if so milos, it would be the same again. in fact, about 6 weeks ago, I asked mark if he still had the back up for that design, he said he would check. will call him now and get back with you.
also, I he has it and there are any tweeks you'd like to make as we implement the change, I'm all for that.
- Sep 15, 2009 08:52pm by NRG - livin the art that is life !
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Milos, talked with mark. He has many of the files from that treatment. currently, he is swamped with things that make him money, but said he could re-apply that treatment and might need some graphics because of certain structural changes on the front page (ie scroll boxes, the mast head, and sponsor space) and if you were willing to help with that, he would apply.
so there we have it.
- Sep 18, 2009 01:00am by MILES - [url]http://www.MilesBonny.com/[/url] Location: KCK
im done if you need extra elements... thats if you wanna go back to that one. i do , im just saying
- Sep 19, 2009 04:31am by DR.T - nuts .. haha Location: KCMO
Also ... IMO ... We need moar [size=18:4d398ce588]SAMPLE CHALLENGES[/size:4d398ce588] ... or something.
Little things like that keep me hooked, just having something to do along with posting topics you know?
- Sep 19, 2009 11:50am by maclethal
Kansas City Hip-Hop is not a topic that warrants a message board. You can't even define what Kansas City Hip-Hop is.
A true musical scene, is when a collective of musicians create music that represents an entire LIFESTYLE. A way of speaking, dressing, looking, listening etc.
I think it exists to a degree, but it's definitely not strong enough to warrant people consistently posting here or reading about shit here.
I'd say trying to resurrect this is a fool's mission. Lawrence Hip-Hop was in a different time period, a different era, and was maintained by younger, much more excited people.
It's different now. For better and worse. But let the scene/forum shit go.
In all honesty, I won't see a reply to this post for 5 weeks.
- Sep 19, 2009 07:58pm by trystyl - www.myspace.com/trystyl Location: KCMO
[quote:507cac40e3="maclethal"]Kansas City Hip-Hop is not a topic that warrants a message board. You can't even define what Kansas City Hip-Hop is.
A true musical scene, is when a collective of musicians create music that represents an entire LIFESTYLE. A way of speaking, dressing, looking, listening etc.
I think it exists to a degree, but it's definitely not strong enough to warrant people consistently posting here or reading about shit here.
I'd say trying to resurrect this is a fool's mission. Lawrence Hip-Hop was in a different time period, a different era, and was maintained by younger, much more excited people.
It's different now. For better and worse. But let the scene/forum shit go.
In all honesty, I won't see a reply to this post for 5 weeks.[/quote:507cac40e3]
i agree 100%. the lhh.com was completely different because we were all like 10 years younger!! i can't speak for everyone but i got shit to do nowdays.. and am not very excited about music in general, local or national. I was way more active back then because it was exciting, now real life gets in the way
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[quote:a3c1da8f65="MILES"]im done if you need extra elements... thats if you wanna go back to that one. i do , im just saying[/quote:a3c1da8f65]
got it. re read it many time and you're say no you're not interested in helping with the changeback. that's cool. least you lit a fire I'll see what I can do
thanks miles
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[quote:a87f2aad07="trystyl"]
i agree 100%. the lhh.com was completely different because we were all like 10 years younger!! i can't speak for everyone but i got shit to do nowdays.. and am not very excited about music in general, local or national. I was way more active back then because it was exciting, now real life gets in the way[/quote:a87f2aad07]
you are exactly right trystyl because it was 10 years ago for you, but this site exsist to promote, educate, stimulate anyone who feels they can do that here. its understandable that many of the folk from 10 years ago,like you, have moved on, but a new generation, segment of the community, fans, curious seeker, may have just become interested, its ok to have this site exsist in some form and its ok that people move on as they feel like it. like you, many folks now have kids, wifes, husbands, demanding jobs, gigs, have moved away and in a word, a life to live, and this site is a place you may check into from time to time like Mac said as sort of an after thought, to see what's if anything has happened, say hey to a friend, or even take a stroll down memory lane.
this is all good stuff
nrg
- Sep 23, 2009 04:39am by NRG - livin the art that is life !
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[quote:fd4a41fea3="DR.T"]Also ... IMO ... We need moar [size=18:fd4a41fea3]SAMPLE CHALLENGES[/size:fd4a41fea3] ... or something.
Little things like that keep me hooked, just having something to do along with posting topics you know?[/quote:fd4a41fea3]
great T. you can start one anytime you want one, so can other producers its up 2 you
- Sep 24, 2009 12:44pm by leonarddstroy
just curious, but why is that ces cru release flyer still popping up on the front page or whatever? its been nearly a month since the show happened...
- Sep 24, 2009 02:01pm by VSBproductions
yea it i was wondering that also... i am currently putting together a show in lawerence at the granada should be a big one.. lucid still trying to touch down with u..lets collaborate and make a good one.
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[quote:c78cacf800="leonarddstroy"]just curious, but why is that ces cru release flyer still popping up on the front page or whatever? its been nearly a month since the show happened...[/quote:c78cacf800]
don't know lenny. i'll check
thanks
nrg
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changed
- Sep 25, 2009 07:11pm by Admin Location: KS
I restored the 2006ish version of the site for now, hope you like it.
Mark
- Sep 26, 2009 02:10am by Deta!L - I just said that so you would stop bothering me.
looks way better than that doo-doo brown
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Well Said Detail. Thanks for your time effort and support Mark! this change feel good
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[quote:29f12beaf0="NRG"]again, this can be seen at shows where the same folks show up, as far as I can see up to this point, there has never been a concerted interest in banding together to attract who are not down with hiphop. Hiphop and Jazz to some degree is an insider's community. If you not down, you not down wit it.[/quote:29f12beaf0]
It's weird isn't it? There's a core presence that grows and vanishes within itself. I can't tell you how many folks I talked to that had no idea KC had hip hop artists other than Tech and Rich. They always seemed happy to know it, but that's as far as it went. You're trying to tell me between Rockhurst, Penn Valley and UMKC there are no hip hop heads trying to get out for a drink and hear some good music? [i:29f12beaf0]By "you", I don't mean you, NRG. I'm thinking of the convo in general.[/i:29f12beaf0] That always bothered me. Where are all those people? Where do they all go besides westport on the weekend? Has anyone else fliered schools? Why are Lawrence's students so much more open?
I think the hate is probably pretty natural. You either sit around and hate, or you do your own thing.
The hate on HHKC feels like it's usually miscommunication. It seems like it's never really beef save for a few incidents.
I'm gonna have to agree with Mac Lethal on that hip hop alone in KC may not float a site. Maybe the site should be an overall art hub for KC with gallery postings and all that. KC has a very unique art scene. The hip hop scene is dope, but the art scene on a whole is fucking phenomenal. There's not an art event I've been to in Seattle that can hold a match to some of the sickness I experienced in KC. There was nothing better than a first friday in the summer followed by a dope show.
Is there a site documenting the artistic nightlife?
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this is where this site started and many regards this is why this site is still relevant
the article jenee wrote about the link between lawrence and kansas city still says it best
http://www.hiphopkc.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1#rose
yes there is a need for a broader site that promotes the art scene and yes it is smokin here as far as innovation, and sickness, but there is something else that's stoppin that kind of site, cuz there already exsist several sites that attempt to promote the local scene in its entireity to no avail. I have hi hopes for Dublow's new site KCMusic scene.com
kansas city's art scene is separated into pockets of creativity. been watching that for many years. had many long convo's about it too
jazz, rock, theatre, hiphop, "the national touring circuit" you name it, its separate and they don't cross communicate unless there is a curious artist or artists who GO exploring, ie cross pollentate.
as I said before this site will remain available specifically as a tool for the hiphop community because I still believe that the growth that has been seen and remains to be seen in kc hiphop has in some part come about because of the exsistance of this site and Lawrence hiphop and the ease they have provided for the community to talk, search, create, share and grow
this has always been the purpose of this site. this site will be here as a living document of what has and continues to happened a snap shot of a period of time in its history just as 64111 clinic.com is for what happened during a brief moment in lawrence when kansas city artists with their long tradition found a place to hone skills and build with lawrence's budding artists because of lawrence's openess.
I have watched many friendships, collabs, and event and a couple labels come from those days.
get in where you fit in. I don't think its possible or more importantly necessary to be for everyone.
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[quote:55c1294aa4="NRG"]this is where this site started and many regards this is why this site is still relevant
the article jenee wrote about the link between lawrence and kansas city still says it best
http://www.hiphopkc.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=1#rose
yes there is a need for a broader site that promotes the art scene and yes it is smokin here as far as innovation, and sickness, but there is something else that's stoppin that kind of site, cuz there already exsist several sites that attempt to promote the local scene in its entireity to no avail. I have hi hopes for Dublow's new site KCMusic scene.com
kansas city's art scene is separated into pockets of creativity. been watching that for many years. had many long convo's about it too
jazz, rock, theatre, hiphop, "the national touring circuit" you name it, its separate and they don't cross communicate unless there is a curious artist or artists who GO exploring, ie cross pollentate.
as I said before this site will remain available specifically as a tool for the hiphop community because I still believe that the growth that has been seen and remains to be seen in kc hiphop has in some part come about because of the exsistance of this site and Lawrence hiphop and the ease they have provided for the community to talk, search, create, share and grow
this has always been the purpose of this site. this site will be here as a living document of what has and continues to happened a snap shot of a period of time in its history just as 64111 clinic.com is for what happened during a brief moment in lawrence when kansas city artists with their long tradition found a place to hone skills and build with lawrence's budding artists because of lawrence's openess.
I have watched many friendships, collabs, and event and a couple labels come from those days.
get in where you fit in. I don't think its possible or more importantly necessary to be for everyone.[/quote:55c1294aa4]
Very well put. I don't know the exact question looking for an answer here, but I'd say if the above paragraph is the truth of how you feel then you've answered your own question that started this thread with Miles quoting you. Maybe the site members should be asking you: should this site die?
- Sep 27, 2009 07:33pm by NRG - livin the art that is life !
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[quote:b57f4a5431="JohnnyQuest"]my 2 cents: this shit is dead. not because of the look or age of the site. not because of "abusive" posters (in comparison to other boards i go to people on here are pretty tame). it's because of the underlying hate and discontinuity of us collectively as musicians. the artist in this area are ridiculous, as soon as someone starts to do something, the hating begins. it's rarely overt ( read: pussies). ask any of the artist here who have been mildly successful. people say shit out of the side of their mouth and don't really enjoy the music anymore because their focus is no longer on the music. their attention has no been diverted to the dislike of an individual based on the success of music they used to enjoy before that person got more popular than them, or got a article in the pitch when they didn't, or got a guest spot they wanted, whatever the case may be. i don't know where this jealousy comes from, but it is the main source of problems with this site and in our community in general as i see it.[/quote:b57f4a5431]
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the quote a is sbove is something the board cannot/should not directly address, that can only be addressed by those it mentions.
having said that:
hiphopkc.com can and wants to provide opportunities for artists, fans, clubs, info and curious seeker, and to provide a glimpse/window into hip hop in our metro area for those in other regions .
the latter has always been happening and we believe: some folk have discovered worldwide hiphop culture, performance contract samples, books movies, music of local artists, and how to plan, promote, advance and stay steady in career areas, using components on hiphopkc.com, many of which are not nor will be located in this message board.
the components I refer to have and will always be located in the main body of Hiphopkc.com and have and will always be accessiable using the TOP MENU.
if you check the stats, this main site has a dynamic participation that does not have anything to do with this message board. this board is the intended TOOL for use of community growth and success and will be whatever you make of it
Quest has made some solid observation and commentary that deserves as much if not more discussion than that directed at the superficial aspects mentioned about this site.
it's really up to those who visit here now to determine what happens from here within this walls and hall of this virual hiphopkc community center.
peace
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[quote:4301ea4c9e="JDFlow"]
Very well put. I don't know the exact question looking for an answer here, but I'd say if the above paragraph is the truth of how you feel then you've answered your own question that started this thread with Miles quoting you. Maybe the site members should be asking you: should this site die?[/quote:4301ea4c9e]
if I understand your comment, rest assured JD, this site will never(knock on wood) disappear. folks may and will move on as needed, but this hugh document of our process and progress will remain visible for anyone who wants to know what happened word for word, event for event, track for track.
that is my personal commitment to this site, our community, and this culture.
nuf said
peace and good to hear from you JD great to have your perspective aboard
nrg, always in motion
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alpha and omega point "the genesis" of hiphopkc.com. for your reading pleasure. I have not altered in my commitments one inch, still standing strong!
Admin Note: The following article appeared in the KC Star and to the founders of this site "SPELL OUT " for all who are listening, what MUST be done to unite and build the hiphop scene locally. The Venues, everchanging audience,free-spirit attitude and unity in Lawrence, UNITED with the discerning hesitance, historical longevity and seasoned skills of Kansas City scene, WOULD mean a one two punch that can't be stopped. This is understanding that lead to the establishment of HIPHOPkc as an on line partner to Lawrence hiphop and StLouis.com sites. Now let the games begin!
Posted on Fri, Nov. 28, 2003
By JENEE' OSTERHELDT
The Kansas City Star
Tupac Shakur once said that if you were walking down the street and saw a rose sprouting through the sidewalk, you'd have to admire its beauty, even if it were battered and wilted.
In Kansas City that "rose" is the city's hip-hop scene, which is beginning to flourish, despite so many barriers: the lack of live music venues, a shortage of radio airplay and the false stereotype that equates hip-hop to thugs, drugs and all things negative.
How does hip-hop stay alive in Kansas City despite its environment? Some thanks goes to its neighbor: It gets lots of nourishment from the scene in Lawrence. In fact, some of Kansas City's hottest rappers have hooked up with the Lawrence hip-hop community -- crews and artists like Deep Thinkers, SoundsGood, Ces Cru, Mac Lethal, Approach, Taha and the Guild.
Why Lawrence? The college-town factor -- the University of Kansas and its student body of more than 28,000 -- makes all the difference, says DJ Sike Styles, 25, hip-hop buyer for Recycled Sounds, a midtown record store.
"College kids tend to like hip-hop more than your average dude who's going to work," says Styles, a native of Brooklyn. "A college kid is going to have the Beastie Boys, Cypress Hill and Jurassic 5 next to Nirvana, Coldplay and Radiohead."
Because of its Midwest location, Lawrence attracts a wealth of local hip-hop artists with an eclectic sound -- a sound that's too versatile to be labeled, says C.J. Wilford, a disc jockey at the university's radio station, KJHK-FM (90.7).
Wilford, a St. Louis native who us host of "Hip-Hop Hype" from 9 p.m. to midnight Saturdays on KJHK, proves his own point. He looks like an East Coast head -- his hat cocked hard, his brim bent -- but his vernacular is dirty South and his annunciation ("thurr" instead of "there") gives away his Midwest roots.
"One of the best reasons to be in the Midwest is you get a bunch of different flavors from everywhere, and people here use all of those influences to create their own sound," Wilford says.
Location, location, Lawrence
Wilford says that even more important than location is the help the community gets from KJHK and the Web site lawrencehiphop.com, which was founded by KU students Miles Bonny, Andrew Giessel and Kevin Greene.
Wilford isn't just blowing his own horn. Rappers also agree that the radio station and the Web site -- two things Kansas City lacks -- have contributed to the boom of the hip-hop scene.
"You can cut a song and go right to the station 10 minutes later and get it played," says Kansas City rapper Approach, 25, who has a funky fun partylicious flavor to his rhyme style. "The station is very accessible, and the DJ's have a real open format for you to come and promote yourself."
The Web site is a valuable resource, too, he says.
"Before lawrencehiphop.com, there wasn't an up-close and personal place for artists from all over the area, from Kansas City to Lawrence, to convene," Approach says. "It gave us a way to provide visuals, audio and a place to speak so people know who the artists are and who they are dealing with."
That was precisely the motive behind the site, says Bonny, 22, a New Jersey transplant and an American Studies major.
"It started out as a site for local acts to plug their music," he says, "but I wanted to do more than post music."
Now the Web site, which is 4 years old and gets several thousand hits a day, hosts forums, posts artist profiles, promotes local hip-hop venues and shows, among other features.
"The idea was to bring together all of the separate individuals who were into hip-hop," says Bonny, also a producer for the hip-hop group SoundsGood. "And I think the scene in Lawrence is becoming more unified every day, from the underground to the commercial. It's coming together."
And from the Web site and radio promotion, the various crews from all over the area have worked together and formed a community -- a common bond -- which has made the local hip-hop scene stronger, Wilford says.
Some people in Kansas City have noticed. Necia Gamby, 50, a Kansas City hip-hop activist who moved to Lawrence, says the college town has all the right components for a thriving, progressive hip-hop scene.
"It's easy to have shows -- there are more hip-hop venues and organizations," Gamby says. "There's more exposure."
There's also more of a live-music infrastructure, says Kansas City lyricist Joe Good of the crew SoundsGood.
"There are more venues, shows, promoters, fans and people willing to pay for shows," Good says. "They have 18-and-up and all-ages clubs. Everything about performing is better in Kansas."
Those venues include the Granada Theatre, the Bottleneck, Abe & Jake's and La Tasca, all on or very near Massachusetts Street, and the Pool Room, on the edge of West Lawrence. Some of those venues also bring in national acts, such as KRS-One, Jurassic 5 and the Roots.
Just as critical, say promoters and rappers, is the ever-changing crowd in Lawrence.
"There's such a great possibility for a large audience when you do a show in Lawrence," says Approach, who is also the co-owner of Lawrence-based Datura Records. "You get young people from all over the map coming to Lawrence to go to school. You get a rotating audience every year."
KC clique
But don't get it too twisted: Not only has Kansas City produced some of this area's freshest lyricists; it has its own scene, too. It's just very particular, Good says.
"The scene in Kansas City is nonexistent to anybody outside of it," he says. "It's almost exclusive in a way, and that really hurts it. The people in this scene don't really warm up to outsiders real quick."
"People (in Kansas City) are very serious about what they do and what other people do," he says. "It's an attitude thing here, and it's very competitive. You either step it up or step it out."
Good says the Kansas City scene is much older than the young and free-spirited scene in Lawrence, which makes a difference in the attitude.
Go to open-mic Mondays at the Hurricane in Westport, and it's about survival of the fittest, Good says. Kansas City isn't going to open their arms to just anyone because they claim they're "into hip-hop." You have to be consistent, and you have to prove yourself to be down in Kansas City, he says.
But Kansas City emcee Profit says that lack of hospitality hurts the local scene.
"Honestly, it saddens me when I think about the scene in Kansas City," he says. "There is so much talent, but there's not enough hometown love from the fans, the clubs or the radio stations."
Profit says people compare the Kansas City scene to a bucket of crabs: "You have to pull someone down to get yourself up, and that's messed up. There's no reason why all local hip-hop heads can't unite.
"I just want everybody to come together, form one big community and do mix tapes and compilations. In Kansas City, fans have to get behind the artists, and artists have to get behind each other."
Perhaps the very opposite stereotypes of hip-hop in both cities attribute the different scenes.
"Lawrence hip-hop is stereotyped as white kids who only want to hear spaced-out beats and songs about politics. Kansas City hip-hop is stereotyped as gangsta," says Josh Powers, 30, a DJ from Kansas City who now lives in Lawrence.
"But it's not true," Powers says. "All types of hip-hop exist in both cities."
And the key to changing those false labels is through shows, he says.
"Promoters and artists have to start broadening their definition of what a good hip-hop show is. When they do a show, they have to start mixing what might be considered political hip-hop with what might be called gangsta to gain mutual respect from both types of audiences.
"Kansas City and Lawrence coming together benefits the scene by bringing light to everybody's talents," says Powers, who promotes artists from both cities on his album, "Josh Powers Presents sceneboostersoundsystem, vol.1."
Aaron Sutton, lyricist with Deep Thinkers, says Kansas City also has to maintain a sense of hometown pride -- represent KC wherever they go and stay in town once they're successful.
"I'm not trying to take anything away from Lawrence, because it's cool to go out there and do shows and be a part of the scene," he says. "But we as emcees in Kansas City need to be here helping to build a hip-hop community that fans here have access to. We have to break down the walls and make Kansas City the place to be."
Now is the ryhme
But if you head down to Wyld Style Wednesdays at Kabal in the City Market or Listen Up Thursdays at Recycled Sounds in midtown, you'll see a different side of the Kansas City hip-hop scene.
It's bright, friendly and interactive. Those two spots are definitely working hard to make Kansas City the spot to be for hip-hop. At Kabal, you can catch the Buggin' Out break dancers defying gravity downstairs on the dance floor while DJ Smooth C spins everything from Lakeside to Brand Nubian to Rakim. You might even hear a lyrically deft emcee like Kansas City's Taha freestyling on the microphone.
And at Recycled Sounds, DJ Sike Styles spins the wheels of steel every Thursday, promoting both local and underground hip-hop, his specialty at the eclectic record store. On occasion, local acts will come through to perform.
At a recent Listen Up, about 40 people of all ages, colors and backgrounds gathered in the record store along the aisles and at the back of the store to see Deep Thinkers, the Guild and SoundsGood.
It looked and felt very much like a small, hospitable community. Joe Good and Gun Jack kicked off the event. Good, who exudes a confident swagger, wore a burgundy Jimi Hendrix T-shirt and a SoundsGood trucker cap as he rocked the mic with tracks like "Leavin Again" and "In the Mornin'."
Kansas City emcee Taha says the collective of hip-hop heads in Kansas City are merging with Lawrence and forming a supercommunity -- younger brothers to a group of older heads that tried to make hip-hop happen in Kansas City many times before but got shut down.
"Now the younger generation has learned the business and learned how to support each other's ventures," Taha says. "The more artists that put stuff out and make a name for themselves and branch out and work together, the more we will be able to connect it the way we want it to be."
And when individuals come together and connect in the name of hip-hop, a community forms, Gamby says, and unity means everything.
"The quality of life, the art of expression and the future of hip-hop is impacted by collaborative spirit."
And maybe by Lawrence and Kansas City joining forces, the hip-hop scene will be mighty like a dozen roses.
Note: its been a couple years now since to genesis of hiphopkc. This article continues to be the inspiration, hell the definitive call to arms, for me as the creator of this site. I have watch closely, as the many talented, creative, and resourceful individuals who contributed to this article, have build both indiviually and collectively with out much support from the kc metro, and often in obscurity. To them all, I say Hooray for you. I am proud to know you ALL and am very often inspired by your continuing drive as people to create and share your vision with us.
we are the lucky ones, becuz there is YOU
- Sep 27, 2009 09:55pm by MilkDrop - http://milkisrhyming.blogspot.com/
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that article is crazy to me in a sense. just seeing Sike and Pro being quoted as being 25, and Miles being 22.....
seems like a whole lifetime ago, i was 20 when that article was written.
we've all come a lonnnnngggg way.
- Sep 27, 2009 10:56pm by MILES - [url]http://www.MilesBonny.com/[/url] Location: KCK
im loving this whole transformation / return .. im biased.. but i love the way the forum looks now. great job thank you
- Sep 27, 2009 11:57pm by Delight - [i:305bf6cc17][b:305bf6cc17]De.light[/b:305bf6cc17][/i:305bf6cc17]
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[quote:4db669e7d4="MILES"]im loving this whole transformation / return .. im biased.. but i love the way the forum looks now. great job thank you[/quote:4db669e7d4]
- Sep 28, 2009 02:01am by DR.T - nuts .. haha Location: KCMO
wowowowowowow ... this takes me back
- Sep 30, 2009 03:38pm by Lucidialect
The change is refreshing. Sort of revitalized it in my eyes. Color does a lot for the psyche.
- Sep 30, 2009 06:17pm by NRG - livin the art that is life !
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glad folk are enjoying the look. I like it too.
hope they enjoy it so much they take care of the environment as well
time will show
meanwhile this feature has been added to the site:
from Admin:
I enabled the tags that should be needed to embed videos, and turned on enabling HTML in forums and for news part of site as well, so you should be able to embed them about anywhere, admin messages, stories, etc
thanks Mark
- Oct 1, 2009 11:25pm by JDFlow - [url=http://www.my.rawkus.com/profile/jdflow]JDFlow on Rawkus[/url]
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[quote:6f8bebf93f="NRG"][quote:6f8bebf93f="JDFlow"]
Very well put. I don't know the exact question looking for an answer here, but I'd say if the above paragraph is the truth of how you feel then you've answered your own question that started this thread with Miles quoting you. Maybe the site members should be asking you: should this site die?[/quote:6f8bebf93f]
if I understand your comment, rest assured JD, this site will never(knock on wood) disappear. folks may and will move on as needed, but this hugh document of our process and progress will remain visible for anyone who wants to know what happened word for word, event for event, track for track.
that is my personal commitment to this site, our community, and this culture.
nuf said
peace and good to hear from you JD great to have your perspective aboard
nrg, always in motion[/quote:6f8bebf93f]
I'm glad you feel that way. This site is a good thing. In my question I was just asking if you feel the site should remain. It seems like slower traffic and disputes had you down. We're human, there'll be disagreements. It's good for us and hopefully we learn from them.
- Oct 2, 2009 12:39am by NRG - livin the art that is life !
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www.myspace.com/nrginmotion world community Location: havenhouse KCK/ 64111 Clinic 4 Life
just the disputes and compliants with inaction JD. traffic comes and goes as interest peaks and wains. I'm good with that. the changes that were made are good thanks to the comments and suggestions.
carry on wayne
nrg