Topic: :::Eff What You Heard, Vol. 1:::
- Nov 14, 2007 06:14pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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*Outkast, is another 1-2 solid projects from being the greatest Rap group of all-time.
*Snoop Dogg's last album was his best since his debut.
*Busta's last album was incredible.
*Keith Murray is wack now.
*The subject of women makes for better Rap songs than anything else I can think of.
*Tupac was the most passionate rapper of all-time, but he was never as gifted as his contemporaries.
*Scarface is the best storyteller Rap's ever known.
*It Was Written was a classic.
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- Nov 14, 2007 08:10pm by trystyl - www.myspace.com/trystyl Location: KCMO
slick rick beats out scarface in my book
- Nov 14, 2007 08:48pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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[quote:b2593e2f85="trystyl"]slick rick beats out scarface in my book[/quote:b2593e2f85]
SR runs a close second or third for my money.
Scarface painted pictures so vivid.
"Never Seen A Man Cry" was brilliant.
- Nov 14, 2007 09:00pm by maclethal
-It Was Written was better than Illmatic
-No one listened to Reasonable Doubt until it had been out for like 4 years
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-Illmatic was better than"It Was Written" .
-Nas wasnt really accepted by the mainstream til he collabbed with Lauren, thusly making you THINK, that "It Was Written" was better.
- Nov 14, 2007 10:41pm by Fur1ous - "She said, 'who the fuck died and made you God?' I said, Jesus"
** Mos Def is one more subpar album from being a has-been
** Kweli without Mos Def = just not the same
** Ras Kass' ability to impress has declined as the years have passed
** Had Blackstar remained a group, we wouldn't even mention Outkast in the same sentence with them
**Muddy Waters was Redman's best album and is VERY underappreciated
** Illmatic and It Was Written are EQUAL
Illmatic because it is possibly the greated hiphop debut album ever and It Was Written because it IS THE BEST sophomore alum EVER and ushered in a whole new style.
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"Illmatic because it is possibly the greated hiphop debut album ever and It Was Written because it IS THE BEST sophomore alum EVER and ushered in a whole new style"
Fair enough.........and WORD.
- Nov 14, 2007 10:54pm by phism
talib kweli and common all fell off because they got preoccupied playing dress up with kanye west. mos def fell off because he heard bad brains.
if you didn't notice, ghostface never makes any sense, and it's okay.
lionel richie was the downfall of r&b
mcing is the least interesting of the four elements. people do not seem to know this.
- Nov 14, 2007 10:57pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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[quote:4319a00036="maclethal"]-It Was Written was better than Illmatic[/quote:4319a00036]
Yes, yes, yes!!!
I've been saying this for years...
[quote:4319a00036]-No one listened to Reasonable Doubt until it had been out for like 4 years[/quote:4319a00036]
That one I disagree with.
I was rocking that from Day 1.
- Nov 14, 2007 10:58pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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[quote:ea7d848068="JKR70"]-Illmatic was better than"It Was Written" .
-Nas wasnt really accepted by the mainstream til he collabbed with Lauren, thusly making you THINK, that "It Was Written" was better.[/quote:ea7d848068]
We're not talking mainstream acceptance though.
It's US talking...
IWW was a more complete album than Illmatic.
- Nov 14, 2007 11:00pm by phism
we've had the illmatic vs. it was written debate so many times on here. i'm sticking with illmatic. his flow is so much more effortless. and it was written is a little overproduced for me, not as gritty. and illmatic is more humble and easier to identify with as an average person instead of so much money talk. i also like that it's only 10 songs. and only one guest spot.
- Nov 14, 2007 11:01pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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[quote:584f1ef9c3="Fur1ous"]
** Kweli without Mos Def = just not the same[/quote:584f1ef9c3]
Think so?
I think he's rounded out nicely by himself.
Better than Mos as a solo act even. MUCH better.
[quote:584f1ef9c3]** Had Blackstar remained a group, we wouldn't even mention Outkast in the same sentence with them[/quote:584f1ef9c3]
BS was my favorite group in a long time, but they would've had a looooong way to go to catch them boys in ATL.
[quote:584f1ef9c3]**Muddy Waters was Redman's best album and is VERY underappreciated[/quote:584f1ef9c3]
His most underappreciated album I think.
I love MW.
- Nov 14, 2007 11:02pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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[quote:98121896d5="phism"]talib kweli and common all fell off because they got preoccupied playing dress up with kanye west. mos def fell off because he heard bad brains.[/quote:98121896d5]
Did you hear Kweli's last album?
[quote:98121896d5]mcing is the least interesting of the four elements. people do not seem to know this.[/quote:98121896d5]
Interesting thought.
It's probably the most interactive though.
- Nov 14, 2007 11:04pm by phism
[quote:a2c57258e6="Reach."][quote:a2c57258e6="phism"]talib kweli and common all fell off because they got preoccupied playing dress up with kanye west. mos def fell off because he heard bad brains.[/quote:a2c57258e6]
Did you hear Kweli's last album?
[/quote:a2c57258e6]
no, should i? i kind of wrote him off after seeing some video off Quality.
- Nov 14, 2007 11:22pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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[quote:0ac141f6ae="phism"]
no, should i? i kind of wrote him off after seeing some video off Quality.[/quote:0ac141f6ae]
WHEW...
He's had a couple good ones since then.
I'd definitely pick up the new one.
Best in a while...
- Nov 14, 2007 11:38pm by theskinny
Swag has replaced skills
Common is uninspired, and has been since EC dropped
Lupe Fiasco is great at rapping, but not making songs or albums for that matter.
Jay-Z IS the greatest rapper of all time
Wayne is not, better is very good.
Rakim will never drop another album, The Seventh Seal isnt real lol
- Nov 14, 2007 11:53pm by Les...Izmore - "Knowledge Speaks, Wisdom Listens"
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*OutKast has been the greatest group for years....Best albums, Most Consistent, etc.
*Tupac had better content than most of his contemporaries... Damn I miss content from mainstream Hip Hop!!!
*Nas is the best storyteller, then probably Slick Rick or Biggie then Face.
*No emcee Dead or Alive is a better emcee than Pharohe Monch!!!
*Boots from "The Coup" is extremely underappreciated
*Ghostface is one of the most consistent emcees (album wise)of this era.
*Kool G Rap is the best emcee from that era whose skills are still holding weight. He'll easily murder all those old school cats now.
I still get chills from that verse off mobb deep's 'murda muzik'
***lionel richie.....LMAO!!!!!!!!!
*JEAN GRAE is one of the top 5 emcees right now!!!
- Nov 15, 2007 12:09am by trystyl - www.myspace.com/trystyl Location: KCMO
i honestly dont like much outkast after aquemini, but that album and atliens still hold up against shit today and get played in the ride all the time
- Nov 15, 2007 01:10am by Les...Izmore - "Knowledge Speaks, Wisdom Listens"
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STANKONIA was Outkast's last 'Hip Hop' album and that joint is banging. Production is SICK!!! It almost plays like a Funk album and that's probably why I love that joint.
- Nov 15, 2007 01:10am by DEMENCHA
-All of Outkasts albums are classics
-DMX outshined Jay-Z on every collaboration they did together
- Nov 15, 2007 01:26am by DjShad
Scarface will always be a classic mc i think hes better than nas, big, and hov, Even thought people hate he's from the south, dude is a true essence of a mc and knows his business side of the game and still owns the masters to all his releases. all i can say is listen to The Diary
Mc Breed-Where is he, I miss I gotta Get Mine(one of the few mc's pac ever collaborated with)
Crucial Conflict-Their new cd is amazing(got an advance from the group)
DA Smart-WHen when the truth be told he is one of the few who actually battled KRS-1 and ripped him a new one
JUICE-The coldest Mc of All Time
Juke Music-Quit hating it is going to be the next big thing so sip on the hateraide and repect that close friends and familes are about to eat..
Ras Kass-The unreleased tracks from 9th wonder are amazing( i got a few-keep checking the show me mixshow in a few weeks)
Redman and Yukmouth-??? I know they colab in 97 on the luniz joint but now
Jay Z-I know is one of the best tracks on the cd
Yuaaaah-Snap and Roll and ringtone rap is crap but its my guilty pleasure
TI-Drug Related One of the best Hip Hop tracks this year(get what you can and get the f out of here)
Freeway and Lil Wayne-Step Back-That Track goes so hard i can't front(respect to don cannon on the beat)
Local underground rappers-why do i have to beg you for music, i'm tired of asking and begging for music, i'm not asking you to sweat me, but damn my e-mail address is [email protected] if i can hit gold and platinum rappers(twista,murphy lee,chingy,willie d,phonte) and classic soul(fatback band,colonal abrams) and rappers in other markets and they send me music, shouldn't you be on your hustle and get the the tracks, im in the market and playing 2 clubs and mix every week on one station and sometimes on the other, how can i expose underground cats to the mainstream if i don't have your tracks or do you want to have that dope song sitting on your harddrive wondering why no one outside your circle know your tracks
Nas-Lets face it AMG originally killed that sample in 99 for his surving the times
Lionel Richie-Can't Hate man is still surving off publishing and even krs-1 has sampled him(booty call soundtrack)
Chicago-Can't wait to go there next week to rock a club, chill with fam and see alot of the rappers/dj's i'm cool with
Murs-His new track sampling the 4tops is great
Lupe Fiasco-Highly Overated but still dope
Common-I guess acting is his calling now
No ID-I'm happy to see he's eating by doing commerical joints
D. Baker and Lil Ronnie-Making the KC Sound wordwide without people in this market knowing
Stage shows-Have your shit prepared, watch james brown or rick james live and learn hand signals to go to next track without the crowd knowing to make your show flow better
Everybody and their mother doing a show with 3-5 dudes on the mic,(steve harvey said it best 5 temptations 1 mic still rocked the show)
Bo Hagon-One of my fav new school southern rappers who is quite entertaining
Erykah Badu-Honey One of her best tracks in a while
Can I Get Open, Hawaiian Sophie and Feelin It-WHy are people forgetting about those tracks
Sorry for the long rant
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- Nov 15, 2007 01:30am by CraigSmith
-Hurricane Cris is actually a dope rapper
-Rich Boy's album was classic
-Jay Z is in a league of his own
-Stik Figa + Craig Smith is a certainty and WILL force niggas to step their game up!
- Nov 15, 2007 01:59am by phism
- EPMD had the best beats of their time
- Lil Wayne is a better rapper than Jay-Z. Not that there's an easy way to compare them.
- all that baltimore, juke, super-fast shit is wack. and fuck Chicago as a city.
- I have a feeling the beastie boys are still going to be doing their thing until they're 80. I do not have a problem with that.
- Wu-Tang Is The Greatest.
- Nov 15, 2007 04:31am by Whatsgood
- Dr.Dres production these days is garbage
- Nov 15, 2007 05:09am by MILES - [url]http://www.MilesBonny.com/[/url] Location: KCK
[quote:68d1d9a002="phism"]talib kweli and common all fell off because they got preoccupied playing dress up with kanye west. mos def fell off because he heard bad brains.
if you didn't notice, ghostface never makes any sense, and it's okay.
lionel richie was the downfall of r&b
mcing is the least interesting of the four elements. people do not seem to know this.[/quote:68d1d9a002]
LOVE THE RESPONSES. 🙂
- Nov 15, 2007 08:52am by DEMENCHA
[quote:80654597db="phism"]- EPMD had the best beats of their time
- Lil Wayne is a better rapper than Jay-Z. Not that there's an easy way to compare them.
- all that baltimore, juke, super-fast shit is wack. and fuck Chicago as a city.
- I have a feeling the beastie boys are still going to be doing their thing until they're 80. I do not have a problem with that.
- Wu-Tang Is The Greatest.[/quote:80654597db]
I strongly disagree with all of these points.
But if you have some kind of hang up with higher bpms, I bet you'd like dubstep.
Check dubstep.fm
PEACE
- Nov 15, 2007 09:11am by DEMENCHA
[quote:a4230a02a0="DjShad"]sip on the hateraide[/quote:a4230a02a0]
- Nov 15, 2007 01:46pm by DjShad
Mac Dre is a genius-1st rapper to record from jail, get stupid,hyphy dance i can go on
Mr Fab-Lets face it royce is not a great rapper,he got lucky by riding enimem's jock, bom might have been his only good track. Lets show Fabby Davis Jr Some Respect royce is nice on the written but in a battle well
Bay Area- They got their business down pact from e40 and too show showing them toe way to do it indi, working with kids in the scools and working with community radio and mom and pop stores and smaller markets we can learn from this
People hating on Juke/Baltimore/House,etc- lets not forget every underground major rapper in the late 80's and early 90's had a hip house joint that some of you still dance to in the club today. I.e. Big Daddy Kanes Raw,Latifah-Come INto My House,Heavy D Now THat We Found Love,Craig G-Lets make this house into a home,Main Source-Lookin at the front door,Fast Eddie Hip House 89,Public Enemy-Can't Do Noting for ya man, EPMD Im Housing, A Tribe called quest-had a few house tracks and they used to always hang out in the house clubs in chicago back in the day.
Read A Book-I made that record a hit in the clubs here..HA
- Nov 15, 2007 04:12pm by Distorted_Mastermind - I reject your reality and substitute my own.
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As the story goes didn't "Planet Rock" pretty much single handedly start house music?
Plus remember "Good Vibrations" by Marky Mark And The Funky Bunch? If that's not hip hop I don't know what is
- Nov 15, 2007 05:32pm by DjShad
nope, house was before planet rock, it started in 78-79 buy a guy named robert williams who oned a club in chicago called the warehouse and he had frankie knuckles who was spinning at it. People started asking record stores for the records that were being played at the venue or used the term house for short and that is a brief history of how house began. planet rock influenced alot of the miami/atlanta bass sound on the early 80's.
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[quote:b49f18e030="DjShad"]
Mr Fab-Lets face it royce is not a great rapper,he got lucky by riding enimem's jock, boom might have been his only good track. Lets show Fabby Davis Jr Some Respect royce is nice on the written but in a battle well
[/quote:b49f18e030]
I can't roll with that one Royce makes dope songs. Have you heard the Bar Exam it came out earlier this year with Primo hosting it. It is bangin!!! He was in form on that one. He did take a L to Mr Fab in that battle though, but Royce got him back on the diss track.
- Nov 15, 2007 06:38pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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[quote:1559d5ffeb="DjShad"]D. Baker and Lil Ronnie-Making the KC Sound wordwide without people in this market knowing[/quote:1559d5ffeb]
No suh...
I've known D for about 5 years now.
I'd heard Mims about 3 years before "This Is Why I'm Hot".
I don't know Ronnie personally, but I've known about his contributions to R&B/Rap for about as long.
- Nov 16, 2007 02:34am by phism
therefore house is independently bad.
i'm still waiting for commercial rappers to resume doing real freestyle battles.
- Nov 16, 2007 04:25am by DR.T - nuts .. haha Location: KCMO
* - MF Doom is the one most Underrated MCs mentioned on this site....
* - Jay-Z is dope, but overrated (to be honest, I compare him to Tila Tequila, in the fact that people believe he is the dopest there is...simply because he says so) YEAH I SAID IT! ......Nyugga! No regrets.
* - Lupe is a gonna be the new Jay-Z (only without the Ego, money, clothes and without the overatedness)
* - Kanye West is NOT the new Preemo.
* - Common needs to loosen up a bit and not be so serious all the time.....
* - 9th, Tay, and Pooh, need to do a reunion ep (or something)
* - Nas sounds like John Robinson (and also needs to loosen up)
* - Kansas City needs more exposure (just incase yall didn't know)
* - Lil Wayne needs to not do SO many street joints (and stop calling Baby his daddy)
* - Immortal Technique needs to eat more raisin brand.
* - More Rappers need to put out acapella versions of their albums
* - Dr. Dre needs to stop pumping iron, and get back on that beat hustle
* - Talib will NEVER go out of style! Talib will still be hot when Common, Nas, Jay Z...phizz out....(I bet money on that)
* - Lionel Richie is to R&B, what Soulja Boy is to hip hop.
* - MCing is the least interesting of the hip hop elements, but the one that gets most the attention
* - Contributions to music should be good
* - Ludacris is the King of the Souff
* - Oh yeah...Ludacris is MUUUUUUCHHHHHHHH better than Jay-Z (I would rather name Ludacris the king of Hip hop than Jay)
* - Mike Rowe should be a rapper for a day
* - they need to make FL studio cost more than an MPC!!!!
* - Lil Wayne and Joc Max need to do a ep
* - Dangermouse is the Smartest person in hip-hop
* - Soundclick needs to ...i don't know...do somethin....
* - The Boondocks is the official Cartoon of hip hop
* - Oh and uh.....Alicia Keys sings deeper than Usher 😆
- Nov 16, 2007 06:51am by phism
people in gangs used to be smarter.
- Nov 17, 2007 06:04am by phism
apparently when i'm drunk, murs is the best rapper in the world.
- Nov 17, 2007 07:23am by Deta!L - I just said that so you would stop bothering me.
Freeways new album Free At Last is actually pretty dope
Not many on this board are willing to disclose what's in their studio, what DAW they use, what mic, preamps, plugins they use but they'll be quick to criticise others and point out the lack of growth in the area
There are a lot of dope emcees that are walking the streets in Topeka, Lawrence and Kansas City looking for production and the ability to record but "the real hip hop heads" wouldn't think about recording someone for free or giving a beat out for free even if it means making a classic song
Cormegas new album is dope
Gensu Deans remixes of CL Smooth are on his myspace for free download
- Nov 17, 2007 08:20am by maclethal
Neo-soul fucking sucks.
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[quote:8529a58afc="Deta!L"]
There are a lot of dope emcees that are walking the streets in Topeka, Lawrence and Kansas City looking for production and the ability to record but "the real hip hop heads" wouldn't think about recording someone for free or giving a beat out for free even if it means making a classic song[/quote:8529a58afc]
I've given plenty away myself...
Doesn't always pay off, but it's necessary.
Everybody needs an opportunity.
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[quote:9550a7203c="maclethal"]Neo-soul fucking sucks.[/quote:9550a7203c]
LOL...
What The Fuck [b:9550a7203c]Is[/b:9550a7203c] Neo-Soul??????????????
- Dec 28, 2007 10:50pm by phism
unnecessary bump...
maybe this is from left field, but i think i just realized that edan might be better than lil wayne.
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[quote:3afa9c8380="maclethal"]Neo-soul fucking sucks.[/quote:3afa9c8380]
[img:3afa9c8380]http://ravenstd.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/home-alone-scream.jpg[/img:3afa9c8380]
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[quote:377d8c4fbd="Les...Izmore"][quote:377d8c4fbd="maclethal"]Neo-soul fucking sucks.[/quote:377d8c4fbd]
LOL...
What The Fuck [b:377d8c4fbd]Is[/b:377d8c4fbd] Neo-Soul??????????????[/quote:377d8c4fbd]
Jill Scott, Erykah Badu, India Irie?
Sorry it does not suck!
- Dec 29, 2007 02:03am by phism
i would agree that overall, it sucks. those three people are 1) generally not amazing... 2) possibly the only three examples you can give. and actually, india arie kind of sucks.
regardless of whether or not it sucks, i have no problem saying that neo-soul is fake.
also, don't date erykah badu, she'll turn you into a pastel bellboy.
- Dec 29, 2007 09:07pm by Whatsgood
Hip-Hop aint dead
The end of 2007 has been dope of Hip-Hop
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[quote:69df5cda4b="phism"]i would agree that overall, it sucks. those three people are 1) generally not amazing... 2) possibly the only three examples you can give. and actually, india arie kind of sucks.
regardless of whether or not it sucks, i have no problem saying that neo-soul is fake.
also, don't date erykah badu, she'll turn you into a pastel bellboy.[/quote:69df5cda4b]
If you think Neo-Soul suck. then you don't have a soul. this means you have never shed a tear over the death of anyone you love. i have no problem admitting I cried a little when i heard about ODB.
You cannot relate to being made fun of all your life for having nappy hair.
(Miss India nailed it on the head, pun intended)
[u:69df5cda4b]I am not my hair[/u:69df5cda4b] is such a positive uplifting son, not the whack ass Akon version either.
Neo-Soul is Church Music for Hip-Hop, Say what you want but I've gotten mad play for switching from playing like 20 Rap songs and then Putting on some Badu's "Love of My Life".
If Neo-Soul Suck then So does Rock and Roll. R&B is for sissies and Shut up already.
If you don't feel Neo-Soul you can't possibly feel the "Black" struggle. Neo-Soul is the new old negro spiritual. Songs about life, love, and hope!
If you diss it, you might as well sing your raps in Black face.
Tell Dave Chappelle they suck. you have seen his block party right? Shit was hot and way on point!
As a matter of fact the next time you getting ready to get down with a [u:69df5cda4b]real[/u:69df5cda4b] Hip-Hop female, say that shit. see what happens.
Say that to the regular females at HHHWings.
clowns
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[quote:459630f078="phism"]i would agree that overall, it sucks. those three people are 1) generally not amazing... 2) possibly the only three examples you can give. and actually, india arie kind of sucks.
regardless of whether or not it sucks, i have no problem saying that neo-soul is fake.
also, don't date erykah badu, she'll turn you into a pastel bellboy.[/quote:459630f078]
Each is his own. I respect your opinion Phizz, but I own Neo-Soul records that could add years on to your life...
If you're ever interested in hearing them let me know.
- Dec 30, 2007 08:29pm by trystyl - www.myspace.com/trystyl Location: KCMO
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DayShift have made a Mid West style rap album meets 90's beats.
Les and Reach need to do Fame 2.0 for '08
Nocab Nivek will never be complete... I am stupid
Mac's album is hands down straight genious but takes a min for the lightbulb to finally pop in your head.
Vert is the best producer in the city but sits on beats
Swayz is the last person you would ever expect to see rip so viciously.
The young cats are hungry
Mac and Ces should do an album
Ces still murders live shows better than anyone
Lenny D makes the most hype and well structured beats ever.
Reach is the most well rounded mc in the city
I want a new Sounds Good album soooo bad
Toon is the most well known mc with no product, and he is an asshole.
Sco is a vet like noone else. And answers to no one. Mad respect.
Bro Mo murders symbol heavy tracks flawlessly.
Klue is one of my fav producers ever
BB needs to make more beats because I miss hearing them.
opus is the best place to go when you need somone to give you the best quality product available... and needs to make more beats and quit sitting on them... and needs to hurry up and marry jess.
I would die of happiness if there was ever a underground rr/hha/proles reunion album.
Approach is on the next level but i wish he would not have dipped.
SG has a horribly disgusting sense of humor but makes bangers
Luna is straight gangster and i am glad he is a homie and not an enemy
Panic writes ridiculous verses and should do a full solo album
Head Fella and DRT will end up being the next gen producers if they continues to grow
Les is a hustla and middle of the map is my joint
Info is hella sick live and with BBM will be off the chain
thats all i can think of now... and there is a good chance you hate me and i hate you.
- Dec 30, 2007 08:57pm by phism
[quote:bdefcd59e1="AceFadal"]If you think Neo-Soul suck. then you don't have a soul. [/quote:bdefcd59e1]
trying not to.
[quote:bdefcd59e1]You cannot relate to being made fun of all your life for having nappy hair.[/quote:bdefcd59e1]
i think i wrote some shit on that exact subject one time. that song sucks, to me.
[quote:bdefcd59e1]Neo-Soul is Church Music for Hip-Hop, Say what you want but I've gotten mad play for switching from playing like 20 Rap songs and then Putting on some Badu's "Love of My Life".[/quote:bdefcd59e1]
church sucks. that song isn't bad.
[quote:bdefcd59e1]If Neo-Soul Suck then So does Rock and Roll. R&B is for sissies and Shut up already.[/quote:bdefcd59e1]
not arguing with that
[quote:bdefcd59e1]If you don't feel Neo-Soul you can't possibly feel the "Black" struggle. Neo-Soul is the new old negro spiritual. Songs about life, love, and hope![/quote:bdefcd59e1]
the "Black" struggle obviously doesn't understand itself then. hope is the stupidest thing the lower and middle class can do to themselves. take a look around and embrace desperation.
[quote:bdefcd59e1]If you diss it, you might as well sing your raps in Black face.[/quote:bdefcd59e1]
i'll keep that in mind.
also, regardless of the fact that some of these artists are Black, they appear to me to be doing just that. parading themselves around as caricatures.
[quote:bdefcd59e1]Tell Dave Chappelle they suck. you have seen his block party right? Shit was hot and way on point![/quote:bdefcd59e1]
i liked that movie. there are other aspects to why that was a good thing, beyond who he chose for his artists.
[quote:bdefcd59e1]As a matter of fact the next time you getting ready to get down with a [u:bdefcd59e1]real[/u:bdefcd59e1] Hip-Hop female, say that shit. see what happens.
Say that to the regular females at HHHWings.[/quote:bdefcd59e1]
maybe she'll "battle" me, ha. women like honesty. and i try not to plan my conversations ahead of time.
[quote:bdefcd59e1="Reach."]Each is his own. I respect your opinion Phizz, but I own Neo-Soul records that could add years on to your life...
If you're ever interested in hearing them let me know.[/quote:bdefcd59e1]
i'm not saying there's not some gems out there. some of those songs i love. "on&on" at 4am is sublime. it's not that i won't give it a chance.
but as a genre, it's kind of bullshit. it's a lot of self-righteousness covering up self-consciousness. i'm not going to take somebody on the street seriously if they're walking around saying "I AM GOING TO BE AS BLACK AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE", so why should i bother to listen to it. that's not to say people shouldn't be involved with their culture, or afraid to discuss it, but a lot of it is just downright corny.
i agree with a good percentage of the things they say. it's just that i don't see that the way they say it is novel in any way, or difficult to say. embrace your culture, yeah, get a job, stop getting your hair straightened and did up to look like a plastic palm tree, don't shoot people, whoopdy-shit. it's all nice, and i can understand having one or two songs about it, but there are probably bigger problems in your life personally, or in the world at large. that's why i see much [i:bdefcd59e1]less[/i:bdefcd59e1] soul involved. those are easy topics. i think i'm done talking about this, because it could go on for a while.
in a lot of ways, every genre, or music in general is 99% crap, so it's not really worth saying one type or another sucks. i just think some of these artists put themselves in a position to be untouchable because if you don't like them, suddenly you're america's #1 racist. same thing with like overly-artsy musicians who, if you say they suck, you just don't "understand" them because you've never been to france or done acid or whatever.
the Coup and Dead Prez are better than any of your favorite "social consciousness" rappers and neo-soul attention seekers.
- Dec 30, 2007 08:58pm by phism
[quote:11a1450592="trystyl"]thats all i can think of now... and there is a good chance you hate me and i hate you.[/quote:11a1450592]
Hate Party!! woooo!!!
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[quote:c6119be23e="phism"][quote:c6119be23e="AceFadal"]If you think Neo-Soul suck. then you don't have a soul. [/quote:c6119be23e]
trying not to.
[quote:c6119be23e]You cannot relate to being made fun of all your life for having nappy hair.[/quote:c6119be23e]
i think i wrote some shit on that exact subject one time. that song sucks, to me.
[quote:c6119be23e]Neo-Soul is Church Music for Hip-Hop, Say what you want but I've gotten mad play for switching from playing like 20 Rap songs and then Putting on some Badu's "Love of My Life".[/quote:c6119be23e]
church sucks. that song isn't bad.
[quote:c6119be23e]If Neo-Soul Suck then So does Rock and Roll. R&B is for sissies and Shut up already.[/quote:c6119be23e]
not arguing with that
[quote:c6119be23e]If you don't feel Neo-Soul you can't possibly feel the "Black" struggle. Neo-Soul is the new old negro spiritual. Songs about life, love, and hope![/quote:c6119be23e]
the "Black" struggle obviously doesn't understand itself then. hope is the stupidest thing the lower and middle class can do to themselves. take a look around and embrace desperation.
[quote:c6119be23e]If you diss it, you might as well sing your raps in Black face.[/quote:c6119be23e]
i'll keep that in mind.
also, regardless of the fact that some of these artists are Black, they appear to me to be doing just that. parading themselves around as caricatures.
[quote:c6119be23e]Tell Dave Chappelle they suck. you have seen his block party right? Shit was hot and way on point![/quote:c6119be23e]
i liked that movie. there are other aspects to why that was a good thing, beyond who he chose for his artists.
[quote:c6119be23e]As a matter of fact the next time you getting ready to get down with a [u:c6119be23e]real[/u:c6119be23e] Hip-Hop female, say that shit. see what happens.
Say that to the regular females at HHHWings.[/quote:c6119be23e]
maybe she'll "battle" me, ha. women like honesty. and i try not to plan my conversations ahead of time.
[quote:c6119be23e="Reach."]Each is his own. I respect your opinion Phizz, but I own Neo-Soul records that could add years on to your life...
If you're ever interested in hearing them let me know.[/quote:c6119be23e]
i'm not saying there's not some gems out there. some of those songs i love. "on&on" at 4am is sublime. it's not that i won't give it a chance.
but as a genre, it's kind of bullshit. it's a lot of self-righteousness covering up self-consciousness. i'm not going to take somebody on the street seriously if they're walking around saying "I AM GOING TO BE AS BLACK AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE", so why should i bother to listen to it. that's not to say people shouldn't be involved with their culture, or afraid to discuss it, but a lot of it is just downright corny.
i agree with a good percentage of the things they say. it's just that i don't see that the way they say it is novel in any way, or difficult to say. embrace your culture, yeah, get a job, stop getting your hair straightened and did up to look like a plastic palm tree, don't shoot people, whoopdy-shit. it's all nice, and i can understand having one or two songs about it, but there are probably bigger problems in your life personally, or in the world at large. that's why i see much [i:c6119be23e]less[/i:c6119be23e] soul involved. those are easy topics. i think i'm done talking about this, because it could go on for a while.
in a lot of ways, every genre, or music in general is 99% crap, so it's not really worth saying one type or another sucks. i just think some of these artists put themselves in a position to be untouchable because if you don't like them, suddenly you're america's #1 racist. same thing with like overly-artsy musicians who, if you say they suck, you just don't "understand" them because you've never been to france or done acid or whatever.
the Coup and Dead Prez are better than any of your favorite "social consciousness" rappers and neo-soul attention seekers.[/quote:c6119be23e]
With all due respect, sir......Like I said. You can't relate. Its a Black thang, you can't [u:c6119be23e]ever[/u:c6119be23e] understand!
Neo-Soul [u:c6119be23e]has[/u:c6119be23e] added years to my life. All three of the ladies I mention are true humanitarians if anything. And would embrace, love, and support, the weakest and/or strongest Black man.
Living my life like its golden!
And "I am going to be as Black as humanly possible. Just because you may not have, don't like, or have rejected your culture, don't diss mine.
Your just in it for the ride. I've been called a nigger all my life. Neo-Soul helps me see beyond that and have compasion for people who will never understand. 😉
Hip-Hop didn't give me that attitude! Hope is all I have. Hope keeps me living for another day. Unless you've had to boil water to take a bath, or bathed by candle light, or borrow water from your neighbor for a month, you just won't get it.
my opinion
wtf?
- Dec 31, 2007 03:04am by phism
all i'm saying is... it's not a black thing.
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[quote:5d9cb2b193]I want a new Sounds Good album soooo bad [/quote:5d9cb2b193]
say that again! I keep listening for them and they're just not there
I'm jonesin
so I play all the other stuff I have and everynow and then I find a surprise collab joe good did with an artist.
damn such is life, but hey you never know what the future holds
- Dec 31, 2007 07:02am by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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[quote:c343a9ae0a="phism"]
but as a genre, it's kind of bullshit. it's a lot of self-righteousness covering up self-consciousness. i'm not going to take somebody on the street seriously if they're walking around saying "I AM GOING TO BE AS BLACK AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE", so why should i bother to listen to it.[/quote:c343a9ae0a]
I can't say that I've ever heard that tune.
Sure, there's a celebration of Black skin in Neo-Soul records.
That's a by-product of a society that makes us to feel uncomfortable about having it.
There's nothing contrived about that.
That's real life experience.
[quote:c343a9ae0a]i agree with a good percentage of the things they say. it's just that i don't see that the way they say it is novel in any way, or difficult to say. embrace your culture, yeah, get a job, stop getting your hair straightened and did up to look like a plastic palm tree, don't shoot people, whoopdy-shit. it's all nice, and i can understand having one or two songs about it, but there are probably bigger problems in your life personally, or in the world at large. that's why i see much [i:c343a9ae0a]less[/i:c343a9ae0a] soul involved. those are easy topics. i think i'm done talking about this, because it could go on for a while.[/quote:c343a9ae0a]
I'd imagine that living in a society that demonizes what you look like is a fairly substantial problem. That's not to say there aren't other issues one could be concerned with, but that's definitely a part of being Black in America.
[quote:c343a9ae0a]the Coup and Dead Prez are better than any of your favorite "social consciousness" rappers and neo-soul attention seekers.[/quote:c343a9ae0a]
Neo-Soul records aren't exactly "en vogue" so I can't see how anyone who identifies with the sub-genre would be 'seeking attention'.
- Dec 31, 2007 11:31am by theskinny
elitism is alive in well.
- Dec 31, 2007 11:38am by phism
[quote:72c0cbd120="Reach."]Sure, there's a celebration of Black skin in Neo-Soul records.
That's a by-product of a society that makes us to feel uncomfortable about having it.
There's nothing contrived about that.
That's real life experience.
I'd imagine that living in a society that demonizes what you look like is a fairly substantial problem. That's not to say there aren't other issues one could be concerned with, but that's definitely a part of being Black in America. [/quote:72c0cbd120]
I understand that, I'm not saying that it's not a valid topic. Again, it's just an easy one, and not one i'd base nearly my entire body of music on. It just seems like a person would be intentionally stifling their own personality by actively transforming it into something that is [i:72c0cbd120]outward[/i:72c0cbd120]... acting like you're trying to prove something to the world generally makes you seem like you're disproving whatever it is.
it's like that song that christina aguilera had about calling herself beautiful. 1) it's got a very specific target audience of either people who are insecure about their appearance and place in society, or extremely into showing it off; 2) if you have this song about how proud and confident and valuable you are, it's not a good sign that you had to write a whole song to let yourself know. at the very least, you've still got a few steps to go in the process of getting in touch with your own personality beyond other people's criticisms of you.
[quote:72c0cbd120]Neo-Soul records aren't exactly "en vogue" so I can't see how anyone who identifies with the sub-genre would be 'seeking attention'.[/quote:72c0cbd120]
i mean personality types, not market appeal.
although, i think it's a growing market, and i think that's a good sign for what will hopefully come after it...
- Dec 31, 2007 11:39am by phism
[quote:7d33380421="theskinny"]elitism is alive in well.[/quote:7d33380421]
i don't think you can call it elitism when you're hating from the bottom up.
- Dec 31, 2007 07:19pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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[quote:22d3547a83="phism"]
I understand that, I'm not saying that it's not a valid topic. Again, it's just an easy one, and not one i'd base nearly my entire body of music on.[/quote:22d3547a83]
Who does that though?
India Arie probably does those types of records most often but they're still few and far in between and hardly define her catalog.
[quote:22d3547a83]it's like that song that christina aguilera had about calling herself beautiful. 1) it's got a very specific target audience of either people who are insecure about their appearance and place in society, or extremely into showing it off; 2) if you have this song about how proud and confident and valuable you are, it's not a good sign that you had to write a whole song to let yourself know. at the very least, you've still got a few steps to go in the process of getting in touch with your own personality beyond other people's criticisms of you.[/quote:22d3547a83]
Women often need to affirm their own beauty in this society.
One whose standards of beauty are so stringent.
Again, she's just in tune with the American pulse.
It's difficult to cut against the grain and do songs like those.
Especially for an artist of her stature who has everything to lose.
[quote:22d3547a83]i mean personality types, not market appeal.[/quote:22d3547a83]
Point taken.
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[quote:2872df1e80="Reach."][quote:2872df1e80="phism"]
I understand that, I'm not saying that it's not a valid topic. Again, it's just an easy one, and not one i'd base nearly my entire body of music on.[/quote:2872df1e80]
Who does that though?
India Arie probably does those types of records most often but they're still few and far in between and hardly define her catalog.
[quote:2872df1e80]it's like that song that christina aguilera had about calling herself beautiful. 1) it's got a very specific target audience of either people who are insecure about their appearance and place in society, or extremely into showing it off; 2) if you have this song about how proud and confident and valuable you are, it's not a good sign that you had to write a whole song to let yourself know. at the very least, you've still got a few steps to go in the process of getting in touch with your own personality beyond other people's criticisms of you.[/quote:2872df1e80]
Women often need to affirm their own beauty in this society.
One whose standards of beauty are so stringent.
Again, she's just in tune with the American pulse.
It's difficult to cut against the grain and do songs like those.
Especially for an artist of her stature who has everything to lose.
[quote:2872df1e80]i mean personality types, not market appeal.[/quote:2872df1e80]
Point taken.[/quote:2872df1e80]
as well.
