Topic: Fuck this fucking fuck.
- Sep 25, 2007 04:15pm by nadia
Sorry, Necia, but no other words exist in my vocabulary when it comes to Bill O'Reilly.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200709210007?f=h_latest
- Sep 25, 2007 05:18pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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"Bill O'Reilly isn't in the business of presenting ideas...He's in the business of presenting theatre."
Keep that in mind and what he says rolls right off your back.
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[quote:575427ff21]MTV asked Nas about the Bill O’Reilly thing again, and DAMN! I would love to see a Nas vs. O’Reilly debate. FOX News needs to get on that for real! Peep Nas’ statement below:
Whenever he wants a debate, I’ll go through it. I know Bill O’Reilly’s test scores. I know what he did, what he’s trying to be … I’m a psycho. I’m an American psycho. [Addressing O’Reilly:] “Come to Queensbridge, [record your show] out there. Come to Jamaica, Queens [New York]. Do a show in Red Hook [Brooklyn, New York].†… I ain’t got no time to talk to a uncivilized savage. This man will go through all kinds of extremes for publicity. I will tell him I’m an American psycho, I’m his worst nightmare. “They Shootin’ †is just the beginning.
I don’t downplay nothing, that’s who I am. When he wants to come holla at me, be ready for Hannibal Lecter. He don’t deserve an intelligent explanation. I’ll bite his nose off! He wants to talk to me like a animal? I will be — but only to him. With everybody else I’ll be a gentleman, including his wife. That’s right — I’m crazy. That’s how we should be to him. He isn’t here to help us, and we don’t need his help.
If Arnold Schwarzenegger comes to VA Tech, he’s gonna come dressed like the Terminator? [O’Reilly] would never say that about Arnold Schwarzenegger. But he’ll say that to me because he’s ignorant.[/quote:575427ff21]
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In case you didn't hear
You can add Nas to the growing list of MCs who have responded to controversial television and radio personality Bill O’Reilly.
During a recent airing of his Fox News show, “The O’Reilly Factor,†the commentator blasted Nas’ free concert for the students of Virginia Tech as an “abomination†and “atrocity.†O’Reilly referred to Nas — or “Nazz,†as the TV host pronounced it — as a “gangsta rapper†and said his lyrics are as “violent as they come,†citing songs such as “Shoot ‘Em Up,†“One Mic,†Ether†and “Made U Look†as his musical history of violence. (The show also displayed some of Nas’ concert footage and videos, plus the scene where Jay-Z gets shot in the video for “99 Problems.â€) O’Reilly called Virginia Tech President Charles W. Steger “a villain†for allowing Nas to perform.
“Having a rapper who trades in violence perform at Virginia Tech insults the victims, the university and the entire commonwealth,†O’Reilly declared. The Nas controversy has been the topic of several of his shows.
Nas spoke exclusively to MTV News on Wednesday, dismissing his detractor.
“It’s what he’s supposed to do. He has an image to uphold,†Nas said initially, laughing it off.
But the conversation took a more serious turn when Nas described O’Reilly’s stance against him — and previous outbursts against peers such as Snoop Dogg and Ludacris — as being prejudiced and outdated.
“He’s a racist,†Nas said. “Everybody has a marketing plan; his marketing plan is racism.
“He doesn’t understand the younger generation. He deals with the past,†Nas continued. “The people he represents are Republican, older, a generation that has nothing to do with the reality of what’s happening now with my generation. … He’s not really on my radar. People like him are supposed to be taught and people like me are supposed to let n—as like him know. I don’t take him serious. His sh– is all about getting ratings or whatever. I wouldn’t honor anything Bill O’Reilly has to say. It just shows you what bloodsuckers do: They abuse something like the Virginia Tech [tragedy] for show ratings. You can’t talk to a person like that.â€
Nas maintained that some of his harsher lyrics are no more rigid than the reality that inspired them.
“Here’s somebody that speaks about America in his music, and the community that I come from has the same kind of violence as Virginia Tech,†the legendary rapper said about himself. “It’s unnecessary, stupid violence. Hip-hop is a part of the generation of [Virginia Tech] as well as alternative and pop and rock. Hip-hop is a part of that. That’s why I’m [performing at the concert]. With Bill O’Reilly, it doesn’t raise an eyebrow to me because it’s garbage, its bullsh–. He has nothing to do with the real people who go to school or the parents who had to endure that tragedy.â€
The New York MC also opined that O’Reilly should be exploring the inspiration for music’s depictions of violence instead of making blanket statements about the content itself.
“Let him ask why I made the songs I made,†Nas said. “It didn’t come from nowhere. It came from this country. I’m not talking about Russia in my music. I’ve never been to Russia. I’m not talking about Africa, Switzerland, China. I’m talking about me being American and growing up in a crazy world and helping to reflect all different sides of life. I got songs also about totally different things — ‘Black Girl Lost,’ you feel what I’m saying?â€
Besides O’Reilly, seven families of the victims of the Virginia Tech tragedy have spoken out against Nas performing, and there was an editorial in the school newspaper saying it would be a poor choice for the rapper to perform some of his songs where he talks about guns.
University officials responded by saying the announcement of the concert has been getting overwhelmingly positive feedback and that the lineup would not be changed.
Despite the controversy, Nas says he was asked by the school to perform and there are many people who would be disappointed if he did not come.
“I’m still coming,†he reiterated. “Unfortunately, man, a lot of places in America have to deal with unnecessary violence. Somebody like me who knows it firsthand and could relate, … I had a best friend killed, plenty other friends killed. I been through it. I seen it. My music reflects reality. I think that’s what makes it important that I come through and show love to those people [at Virginia Tech]. They deserve it.â€
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- Sep 25, 2007 05:34pm by Lucidialect
I can't believe the line about detaining all male Muslims that walk through a US airport, that he's for it, but also that "it's not racial profiling, it's criminal profiling."
WTF??!
- Sep 25, 2007 06:22pm by NRG - livin the art that is life !
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you don't have to turn the other cheek when bullsh*t goes down, harness that sh*t into a laser and unleash it in the most undeniably powerful act your heart can imagine.
I just discribed the birth of all that I am and ever hope to be.
- Sep 25, 2007 11:25pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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One can only fight ignorance with knowledge.
KNOWING that the O'Reilly commentary is dramatic at its core and meant to be consumed as theater is half of the battle.
Providing real commentary, ala Jay Smooth, in return...is the other.
- Sep 26, 2007 07:20am by phism
[quote:ed79bec8a5="nadia"]Sorry, Necia, but no other words exist in my vocabulary when it comes to Bill O'Reilly.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200709210007?f=h_latest[/quote:ed79bec8a5]
ha, i love it. if people are going to be worthless, it's nice when they do it openly.
p.s. i will admit that that quote in the summary is taken out of context.
- Sep 26, 2007 08:20am by Whatsgood
We as Americans can no longer afford to sit on our asses while people like Bill 'O continue there prejudices ways. America should be upset with Fox News. Not only is the cable company a bunch of racist bigots, it is now trying to shut up Republicans that don't reflect the war-mongering position of the neo-cons. They continue to try to embarrass and shut down Dr. Ron Paul a traditional Republican. It's time Americans get off there asses and start standing up for what's right dammit.
- Sep 27, 2007 08:11pm by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing
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If Bill Oreilly was a rapper......
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- Sep 27, 2007 08:54pm by Adoless - Myspace.com/adoless
"Plus I know you've seen colbert jackin my swagger
but now I'm back in the lab and the fact of the matter is
The O'Reilly Factor is fatter"
That was classic. I hate the big Bill as well but I respect his place in the world. If we dont have him then we have nothing to get mad about... I say, FUCK BILL... and have a nice day.
- Sep 28, 2007 05:49am by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing
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Fuck Israel and there 300 nuclear warheads!
Support Palestine. End US Support for Neo-Con/Zionist dictatorship/oppression.
No sanctions on Iran.
Listen to Ahmedinejad, he speaks wisdom. May be Homophobic, but has right to persue alternative energy source for his country.
If you care about this and don't listen to Democracy Now. Fuck you Die!
Remember...its all about the music!
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- Sep 28, 2007 03:25pm by NRG - livin the art that is life !
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[quote:a118f014d1="AceFadal"]
[u:a118f014d1]If you care about this and don't listen to Democracy Now. Fuck you Die![/u:a118f014d1]
Remember...its all about the music!
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you know ace, if I did care about this you pushing on me this way might drive me away.
this is how you recruit for causes you believe in
what's the deal ace?
- Sep 28, 2007 05:47pm by DEMENCHA
^^^what she said
- Sep 28, 2007 06:09pm by Whatsgood
[quote:37da09c33c="AceFadal"]
Support Palestine. End US Support for Neo-Con/Zionist dictatorship/oppression.
No sanctions on Iran.
Listen to Ahmedinejad, he speaks wisdom. May be Homophobic, but has right to persue alternative energy source for his country.
If you care about this and don't listen to Democracy Now. Fuck you Die!
][/quote:37da09c33c]
Wow. How many contradictions were in that rant? I find it amazing someone who's fighting racism would support this guy. Anyway he doesn't really make the decisions for his country the Ayotolah does.
- Sep 28, 2007 08:25pm by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing
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People Here
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and I ask myself
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So..
In one form or another, people are always asking me why I spend so much time ranting on a page on someone I hate or dont agree with. Why "waste" my time bashing an innocent person and just what kind of a monster am I?
Pop Culture...
There's tons of information online and otherwise chronicling these individuals' shortcomings and one only has to be slightly aware of the entertainment industry to know the buzz, but everybody here is way to caught up in the mainstream. 🙁
Now on to the more serious query - what kind of a person would spend any amount of time verbally condemning another? And furthermore, why?
I feel this can be cleared up by re-posting a response I made on a message board to this very question:
You can say "change the channel/station/etc." if you don't like what you're hearing, but as we've stated, the problem here is the media and these generic "stars" in general. Posting about people who don't care what you say about them. The media is shoveling crap down our throats and unless we stand up and voice our distaste for it, they will keep doing it. And People here allow it and spread that poison here.
If we let them know we won't stand for this kind of bilge, perhaps they'll start investing their time and money in searching out *real* talent, rather than trying to create it out of thin air. why do people post here if they don't gie ashit about its culture?
In the end it is our money that keeps them in business and, therefore, it is our duty to inform them that we're sick of wasting our money on their trash. We deserve better - I want better - and I will be heard.
The fact of the matter is, most people are fed up with all these pop-clone and crossover "artists" who aren't really that talented to begin with. That's where the "hate" comes in.
I do not hate anyone here, I do not want anyone to die - I do not wish actual ill-will upon them. I just wish people's focus and mind was in a progressive place.
Did you ever stop to think that it might be possible to dislike someone for their actions and what they stand for and not hate them directly?
Not everyone is going to like them and some people are going to bash them more than others.
You cannot put yourself out to the entire world and expect the entire world to embrace, love and respect you.
And I really dont expect respect from anyone on the internet that I havent met. I don't know you! Especially when you can post on a forum where you hide behind a name given to youself and your alter personality. For all I know YOU cold be against me!
It has been proven time and time again, that very few people who post here care about anything real.
Kanye, Bill, Imus....When are people going to wake up and talk about something that matters.
[color=red:31ced47691]SOOO![/color:31ced47691] Its baffling to me how people read and post on that garbage, but don't read the knowledge?
Check the post. 12 people even looked at the info concerning Jena.
That tells me that people don't care anymore! I feel the same way I did when I was trying to pass out info about Jena on the Plaza. Those people didn't take time to look at the info either. Tried their hardest not to even notice me! But at least I got a "No Thank You." I don't get that respect here.
Your excuse is probably, "I'm afraid to check whatever you post." Or I don't Like Ace Fadal, so I'm not checking his thread. fine be stupid!
check the post on the "positive news post" about Jena as of yesterday 12 people looked at that shit!
Bill O got like 100 the first day!
So yeah I'd rather totally alienate the people who don't give a Flying F*ck about Me or my people anyway. I keep trying to inform, embrace, or teach them.
So I posted where everbody was lookin.
Keeping you shocked, thats what you want aint it?
Im just..
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But I'm through posting here. Its bad energy for me. It really hurt me that only 5 people gave a shit about the Jena post. Fuck being in a place I'm not wanted, I get that enough in my own country.
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people like to stay sleep sheep
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- Sep 29, 2007 12:14am by NRG - livin the art that is life !
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thanks ace I understand now you are passionate about this and that is a good place to be. If you don't disrespect folk in the process, I got no problem with passion and being informed.
see you out and about Ace
nrg
- Oct 9, 2007 03:45pm by DJSKEME Location: Grandview, MO
[quote:0320d5c2c5="Adoless"]"Plus I know you've seen colbert jackin my swagger
but now I'm back in the lab and the fact of the matter is
The O'Reilly Factor is fatter"
That was classic. I hate the big Bill as well but I respect his place in the world. If we dont have him then we have nothing to get mad about... I say, FUCK BILL... and have a nice day.[/quote:0320d5c2c5]
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