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- Aug 11, 2007 02:15pm by phism
i searched, but decided there needed to be a less-specific, all encompassing Chiefs thread.
so, what are you looking to see today?
what the hell is going on at fullback?
how much playing time is Damon Huard going to see?
why is Samie Parker listed to return punts?
is Tank Tyler going to look too Christmas-y when his skin turns green?
are Tamba Hali and Turk McBride's shifting styles going to be effective at disrupting offenses? speaking of which, i'd like to see more of whatever they call it when the two ends go behind the tackles and run up the middle... that worked pretty well a few times last year... but then again, we were lacking at DT last year and O-lines probably weren't expecting pressure from the middle.
what's up with Kyle Turley and why do teams put up with the drama?
i think Will Svitek is going to be pretty good.
what's our cap situation, and why can't we give LJ some more money? weren't we well under last year?
people i didn't already mention who i'm curious about (including the injured): Napoleon Harris, Alfonso Boone, Damion McIntosh, Chris Terry, Priest Holmes, William Kershaw... all the new CBs and Safeties esp. Tyron Brackenridge....
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- Aug 12, 2007 06:07pm by phism
really? i've never been very impressed by printers. based on passing alone.
i only caught the end of the game. ekwerekwu looked alright.
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[quote:b642868038="phism"]what the hell is going on at fullback?[/quote:b642868038]
The FB situation is a mess, but I think the simplest solution would be for Kris Wilson to retain the job. He's not a conventional FB, but he was productive for the first time in his career and he's probably the best option at that position.
[quote:b642868038]why is Samie Parker listed to return punts?[/quote:b642868038]
I think they're trying to find redeeming qualities in Parker because he could very well be out of a job in another month. Especially now that the Chiefs have signed AFL all-world Receiver Bobby Sippio (called the Terrell Owens of the AFL).
[quote:b642868038]are Tamba Hali and Turk McBride's shifting styles going to be effective at disrupting offenses?[/quote:b642868038]
I believe so. Tamba and Turk both have great first steps.
They're smallish, but have the penetrating styles necessary to creating consistent pressure on the QB. Turk will move inside after the first 2 games (where Allen will be suspended).
[quote:b642868038]what's up with Kyle Turley and why do teams put up with the drama?[/quote:b642868038]
Quite simply because the Chiefs have all kinds of uncertainty staring them in the face at both Tackle spots. He's back up to 300 lbs. and before the injury bug bit him...He was a Pro Bowl Right Tackle.
The Chiefs will take that chance to try and solidify one of the Tackle spots.
[quote:b642868038]i think Will Svitek is going to be pretty good.[/quote:b642868038]
Did you see him play on Saturday night?
He was manhandled repeatedly...
[quote:b642868038]what's our cap situation, and why can't we give LJ some more money? weren't we well under last year?[/quote:b642868038]
We're currently 11 million under the cap.
That isn't holding up the new contract for Johnson though.
His demands are. I think you'll see him sign for close to 22 million dollars in guarantees. Look for that to happen before Week 1 and maybe as soon as next week.
- Aug 14, 2007 07:03pm by phism
[quote:21c4b93c2b="Reach."]
The FB situation is a mess, but I think the simplest solution would be for Kris Wilson to retain the job. He's not a conventional FB, but he was productive for the first time in his career and he's probably the best option at that position.[/quote:21c4b93c2b]
agreed. i'm just surprised at the decision. you don't usually see somebody taking over a different position because of an injury and then keeping it the next year, plus putting boomer grigsby in that position also was strange. i loved the way kris wilson played last year... i hadn't thought about it, but it's not a stretch to have a player sort of float between TE and FB. still wondering why we let tony richardson get away ::sigh::
[quote:21c4b93c2b]Especially now that the Chiefs have signed AFL all-world Receiver Bobby Sippio (called the Terrell Owens of the AFL).
[/quote:21c4b93c2b]
i didn't even hear about that yet. yesterday, huh? that sounds great.
[quote:21c4b93c2b]
Did you see him play on Saturday night?
He was manhandled repeatedly...
[/quote:21c4b93c2b]
nope, didn't actually get a chance to watch the game, but i guess that was a bold statement in the first place. wishful thinking, maybe.
[quote:21c4b93c2b]
We're currently 11 million under the cap.
That isn't holding up the new contract for Johnson though.
His demands are. I think you'll see him sign for close to 22 million dollars in guarantees. Look for that to happen before Week 1 and maybe as soon as next week.[/quote:21c4b93c2b]
ah. do you think he'll find a spot somewhere?
- Aug 16, 2007 01:38am by DEMENCHA
I didn't see much of the first preseason game...
how did huard look in comparison to croyle?
i know croyle fumbled and threw a pick...
?
- Aug 16, 2007 07:23am by phism
i think they both didn't do much. i'm scared of our qb situation.
i personally would prefer huard, but i was skeptical of the croyle pick since the draft.
this season is just going to be weird. i have no real idea what to expect on either side of the ball... i think the defense will be good, i just don't know what it'll look like, and i think the offense will be bad, but again i just don't know how.
- Aug 17, 2007 04:52am by Whatsgood
Gotta love the pre-season folks panicing around town already. We've actually improved if you compare tonights game to last years second pre-season game. Once LJ comes back we'll be ok all we need to do is score 20 a game and we should be golden with our defense. The challenge will be scoring that 20.
- Aug 17, 2007 05:24am by phism
we lose all the time in preseason. the only reason i'd have a problem with it is if the chiefs were good enough to be looking at a potentially undefeated season, then it'd be nice to have the preseason match. as of now, uh, i'd almost rather give the rookies something to fight for maybe.
printers looked good today. especially hooking up with harris (i think? #30? i just realized we have 4 Harrises) on a couple of those plays. and shrugging off defenders.
croyle looked good too. but i'm still not going to take him out of the category of "unproven" until next year.
none of our running backs impressed me. so we'll see how that goes when we get either of the other two back.
- Aug 18, 2007 01:29am by DEMENCHA
I caught a little bit of the first preseason game and the commentator said the Chief's might have the fastest linebackers in the league.
That was good news to me.
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[quote:8d5306765d="Whatsgood"]Gotta love the pre-season folks panicing around town already. We've actually improved if you compare tonights game to last years second pre-season game. Once LJ comes back we'll be ok all we need to do is score 20 a game and we should be golden with our defense. The challenge will be scoring that 20.[/quote:8d5306765d]
If this team can score 3 TD's a game we will make the post-season.
I believe we'll have a Top 10 defense this year. An offense that productive will get us back into the playoffs.
Don't hold your breath though.
Herman Edwards wants a ball-control offense.
He's not interested in scoring that often.
Brodie Croyle looks like a bright young QB with a ton of talent at times and the second-coming of Ryan Leaf at others.
He's going to make mistakes this year no matter how things turn out.
I'm just hoping the Chiefs give him good playcalling and creative offensive ideas to help minimize the mistakes.
He'll have weapons.
- Aug 19, 2007 01:41pm by phism
i'm always worried about the other rookie qb mistakes like clock management that people don't really think about until it loses a game.
- Aug 19, 2007 04:42pm by swayzorbladez - www.myspace.com/swayzorspitsbladez
Those of you who have HBO...
Hard Knocks is a documentary series on HBO following the chiefs through pre-season till the end of post season. It's pretty good actually. I recommend it.
and anywho I always take them to the superbowl in madden!
- Aug 19, 2007 07:18pm by phism
i wish i had HBO. i'm almost tempted to ask if there's going to be a dvd, but i feel like that would be a silly thing to buy.
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[quote:56e8c51e4d="phism"]i'm always worried about the other rookie qb mistakes like clock management that people don't really think about until it loses a game.[/quote:56e8c51e4d]
Edwards isn't much of a game manager himself so expect that to be a problem at some point in the season.
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[quote:be618b4c9f="phism"]i wish i had HBO. i'm almost tempted to ask if there's going to be a dvd, but i feel like that would be a silly thing to buy.[/quote:be618b4c9f]
I think it'd be well worth it.
I was glued to the tube for the first episode.
- Aug 21, 2007 07:25am by phism
[quote:b069f4b2a2="Reach."][quote:b069f4b2a2="phism"]i'm always worried about the other rookie qb mistakes like clock management that people don't really think about until it loses a game.[/quote:b069f4b2a2]
Edwards isn't much of a game manager himself so expect that to be a problem at some point in the season.[/quote:b069f4b2a2]
that also doesn't make sense when you're going to be expecting close, low-scoring games.
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Most of what Edwards says/does doesn't make sense.
I'm just hoping he'll be open minded.
Johnson is now signed which is great for his young QB.
If he's smart... He won't stifle a group of offensive players who can really put points on the board.
- Aug 22, 2007 12:29am by Whatsgood
[quote:c249b61ca1="Reach."]Most of what Edwards says/does doesn't make sense.
I'm just hoping he'll be open minded.
Johnson is now signed which is great for his young QB.
If he's smart... He won't stifle a group of offensive players who can really put points on the board.[/quote:c249b61ca1]
Yea like playing Martyball 🙁 . The guy comes off as a moron to me atleast which could explain why he has a career loosing record.
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I can understand Martyball with less offensive weapons.
But you have the #2 Runningback and #2 Tight End in the NFL.
You have a veteran Wide Receiver who can still stretch the field and produce on a regular basis.
You have an underachieving #2 Wide Receiver who will make for a dangerous and excellent slot guy.
You have a young Wide Receiver with loads of talent who will add a new wrinkle to your offense.
And a TE turned FB who is finally putting numbers up.
Screw Martyball.
We don't exactly have to be the Don Coryell offense of a few years ago either, but I'd welcome the West Coast Offense.
- Aug 23, 2007 07:41am by phism
i think the most convincing part of an argument for a west coast offense to me is Kris Wilson. one of the keys to the west coast offense, at least with the niners, was to let your RBs and TEs catch more passes to strain coverage... take Wilson all over the place on some weird plays, if only to draw/block linebackers... plus LJ can catch passes.
also, hopefully our kicker won't turn out to be a liability because we could stand to lose a lot of games by 1-3 points.
p.s. no disrespect to Croyle or Huard, but if things get really crazy in the contract world, we could always go after JaMarcus Russell (or Michael Vick, ha)
- Aug 23, 2007 03:18pm by Whatsgood
Difference is though the Niners ran the WCO so well because Norv Turner is a brilliant OC. I'm not sold on Solari.
And yea i'm affraid our kicker will suck.
- Aug 24, 2007 03:13am by Whatsgood
We'll be lucky to go 6-10 this year. Not only does this team continue to get owned on the offensive line we aren't getting any push and the effort is subpar.
- Aug 24, 2007 05:41am by phism
our O-line is awful. and i told you Croyle is too small.
i was joking about the JaMarcus Russell thing but uh....
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Croyle needs time to develop.
I'm willing to give him a year to sink or swim.
He's a Third Round draft pick so you can't exactly give him as much time as you would a Brady Quinn, but I'm willing to suffer through 16 games.
This offensive line isn't very good.
Once McIntosh returns we'll be a bit more stable.
Turley will win the RT job (he's been the most efficient there).
Thing is... Can he stay healthy?
We've got a solid interior. It's Tackle play that stinks.
With McIntosh and Turley on the ends we'll be respectable.
The defense will be fine. I'm not worried about that unit at all.
We have some young guys on the defensive line that need time to grow, but I'm confident in our Linebacking Corps. They might be the best in the league. I'm also confident in our secondary.
QB play and Tackle play (Offensively/Defensively) will determine how far this football team can go this season.
- Aug 26, 2007 10:00pm by phism
[quote:8200d55d34]The club terminated the contract of WR Rod Gardner and released DE Chris Harris, CB Marcus Maxey, TE Mike Pinkard, T Ramiro Pruneda and WR Titus Ryan.
After visiting with club officials on Saturday, former Detroit Lions WR Eddie Drummond agreed to terms of a one-year contract with the Chiefs on Sunday.
A Pro Bowl return specialist in 2004, Drummond boasts a resume that includes 108 punt returns for 1,058 yards (9.8 avg.) with four TDs and 213 kick returns for 5,026 yards (23.6 avg.) with six TDs. During the 2004 campaign, Drummond tied an NFL record with four combined kick return TDs.[/quote:8200d55d34]
what's up with jeff terrell?
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He'll probably be cut.
- Aug 27, 2007 08:33pm by phism
i figured that, but didn't they just sign him a couple weeks ago or something? seems kind of a funny chance to give a guy.
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He was basically the QB who threw to Receivers during WR drills.
He threw to Holmes as well during his PUP activities.
He got a check for a couple weeks.
And had an outside shot to maybe stick as a 3rd QB.
For him...
That's better than not being around the NFL at all I'm sure.
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booo chiefs!
boooo penalties!
boo place kicker!
That kicker kid needs to learn these two words quick..........Len Elliot bitch.
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Dude you just touched a nerve.
The kid has already been axed...
They wasted no time at all.
Penalties and mistakes cost this team a winnable game.
Now we have to go out and play the Superbowl Runner-Up from last year.
YIKES!!!
- Sep 26, 2007 09:48pm by phism
looks like deuce mcallister is hurt. the saints can say goodbye to their season.
let's see what griese can do for the bears.
adrian peterson (min) is a beast.
i had expected tony romo to fall off this year, but i was wrong. i still hope he does, though, because i've always hated the cowboys. and texas. jason witten is good, too. or at least looks especially good with terry glenn out.
speaking of which, how bout them texans? mario williams over reggie bush doesn't seem like quite such a bad idea now.
the rams and chiefs are both done for, as far as winning seasons go. and for the same reason, too. O-Line. oh, and not to mention that marc bulger and steven jackson are both injured. probably due to the line.
actually, i'm curious to see if the chiefs passing game turns into something less hideous now that Bowe is making plays.
- Sep 27, 2007 07:31am by Whatsgood
How are the Chiefs done? They're 1-2 in what looks like to be a weak divison. If we win this weekend we'll be in first place (I'm counting on Denver losing in Indy.) We've got the 4th best defense ranking wise and LJ has yet to break out, if he ever does this team is a playoff team.
- Sep 27, 2007 08:15am by phism
i expect us to get 2-3 wins of eight division games. namely, the home games, with a good chance we'd lose to the chargers/broncos at home even. i don't see LJ breaking out with the offensive line in the shape it's in. he'll get injured before that happens. he already seems to have something keeping him out of practice every wednesday. i think denver is going to be a little better this year because of cutler, although their defense has fallen a bit... and i think oakland is much improved, we'll see how their QB situation pans out though...
maybe you're right though, it depends on how bad the chargers continue to be and whether i'm wrong about denver and oakland being better... so far i like this season because it's been pretty unpredictable as far as teams rising and falling.
i just don't think herm edwards understands his own offense. i'm completely fine with martyball. but in order for it to work, you need an offensive line and fullback that can support your running back... not necessarily to do anything flashy, but to eat up the clock so your defense can rest and so the opposing offense has fewer chances to score... plus fewer turnovers. oh, and you need a QB that doesn't turn it over and receivers that don't drop balls. so.... our personnel, on offense, doesn't really match the game plan. probably because it's largely a gradually dismantled shell of the west coast/"greatest show on turf" type of offense we had when we went 13-3 like four years ago...
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[quote:f189017b43="phism"]looks like deuce mcallister is hurt. the saints can say goodbye to their season.[/quote:f189017b43]
Have you forgotten that Reggie Bush plays for the Saints?
[quote:f189017b43]let's see what griese can do for the bears.[/quote:f189017b43]
The Bears are in much bigger trouble than the Saints.
[quote:f189017b43]adrian peterson (min) is a beast.[/quote:f189017b43]
Indeed.
[quote:f189017b43]i had expected tony romo to fall off this year, but i was wrong. i still hope he does, though, because i've always hated the cowboys. and texas. jason witten is good, too. or at least looks especially good with terry glenn out.[/quote:f189017b43]
I'm taking the Cowboys as the NFC representative in the Superbowl.
Romo is the truth. I wish we had him here in Kansas City.
[quote:f189017b43]speaking of which, how bout them texans? mario williams over reggie bush doesn't seem like quite such a bad idea now.[/quote:f189017b43]
Not now that Ahman Green is hurt.
Though you make a great point.
I'm not sold on Williams just yet, but he's coming around.
[quote:f189017b43]the rams and chiefs are both done for, as far as winning seasons go. and for the same reason, too. O-Line. oh, and not to mention that marc bulger and steven jackson are both injured. probably due to the line.[/quote:f189017b43]
You're kidding, right?
You realize that this is exactly where we were a year ago don't you?
The Chiefs have 6 of 8 games at home after we come back from San Diego (which is the most winnable game in SD in a long time). I can see them winning 9 games. Especially now that they've opened up the offense. This defense we have is something special. 4th in Total Defense. 8th in Scoring Defense.
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[quote:bf25a2323f="phism"]i expect us to get 2-3 wins of eight division games. namely, the home games, with a good chance we'd lose to the chargers/broncos at home even.[/quote:bf25a2323f]
We only play 6 divisional games now P.
Of those 6 I expect the Chiefs to lose in Denver and likely in San Diego this Sunday, though that's a winnable game, but I think they'll sweep the home games. Our divisional opponents just aren't as strong as they typically are. This is a weak division this year. It's up for grabs. 9 wins could win the AFC West in 2007.
If the offense plays like it did in the Second Half of the Vikings game we can very well wind up in the post-season. This defense is for real.
[quote:bf25a2323f]i don't see LJ breaking out with the offensive line in the shape it's in. he'll get injured before that happens. he already seems to have something keeping him out of practice every wednesday.[/quote:bf25a2323f]
It isn't Johnson or the offensive line.
It's the fact that he's running smack into an 8-man front.
Much like LaDainian Tomlinson. That's why they're both struggling.
Predictable playcalling that allows defenses to cheat up in run support.
[quote:bf25a2323f]i just don't think herm edwards understands his own offense. i'm completely fine with martyball. but in order for it to work, you need an offensive line and fullback that can support your running back... not necessarily to do anything flashy, but to eat up the clock so your defense can rest and so the opposing offense has fewer chances to score... plus fewer turnovers. oh, and you need a QB that doesn't turn it over and receivers that don't drop balls. so.... our personnel, on offense, doesn't really match the game plan.[/quote:bf25a2323f]
You're right...
We're much too talented to be playing such a conservative brand of offense. Dwayne Bowe is as good as advertised and Tony Gonzalez is still the best in the business. Surprisingly, Samie Parker's caught everything thrown to him thus far. We need to play a spread offense and go vertical. Once we start threatening to go downfield consistently you won't see 8 in the box and Larry Johnson will start cutting defenses down to size.
- Sep 27, 2007 05:57pm by phism
whoops, i meant six. forgot that we don't, you know, play ourselves.
i think reggie bush is overrated.
the thing about griese was supposed to be slightly sarcastic. unless he can actually do something for them. grossman sucks.
we'll see about the chiefs i guess... i don't really see them playing as a team, i don't like the coaching, and until the end of the last game, i didn't see any hope for the offense. again, we'll see if the line holds up enough to make those kinds of passes and open up the offense.
it was good to see huard realizing, as one of the commentators put it, that sometimes a receiver like Bowe is open when he's not open.
p.s. maybe it's the same nostalgia everyone has, but i'd like to see them activate priest and run some two-back plays and screens and whatnot from there.
- Sep 27, 2007 06:44pm by Whatsgood
I think when ya got a guy like Damon Huard you have to have a conservative type of offense. The guy is very immobile, doesn't have the arm to throw down field, and at times doesn't even make his reads. I agree with Phism, Reggie Bush is like Eric Metcalf used to be. Bush can't run between the tackles, he doesn't really get the paids down and take on defenders, all he really is a receiver playing RB, Aaron Stecker will be there premire back.
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[quote:629e142b70="phism"]i think reggie bush is overrated.[/quote:629e142b70]
I think that's the first time I've ever heard anyone say that.
[quote:629e142b70]we'll see about the chiefs i guess... i don't really see them playing as a team, i don't like the coaching, and until the end of the last game, i didn't see any hope for the offense.[/quote:629e142b70]
Remember though, this is exactly how things started last year.
We were woeful through the first 2 games and Solari found some offensive intelligence as the season went on.
Now that they know what they have in Bowe...
Look for this team to go downfield...and often.
[quote:629e142b70]again, we'll see if the line holds up enough to make those kinds of passes and open up the offense.[/quote:629e142b70]
This offensive line is probably better suited for pass protection.
I have no worries there. My concerns are how they'll run block.
Which I think should be fine too once they aren't facing 8-man fronts anymore.
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[quote:464cdadc3f="Whatsgood"]I think when ya got a guy like Damon Huard you have to have a conservative type of offense. The guy is very immobile, doesn't have the arm to throw down field, and at times doesn't even make his reads.[/quote:464cdadc3f]
I don't buy it.
I think he's proven how efficient he can be in a vertical offense.
He proved that over the Second Half of Sunday's game against Minnesota.
If we open this offense up you'll see how effective Huard can be.
- Sep 28, 2007 08:04am by phism
i'll agree that he's not mobile, but he can throw down the field.
if they were the same age, and i were an owner, i would no doubt rather have deuce mcallister on my team than reggie bush. he's just too small, and all that dante hall dancing doesn't do much when all you need to do is pound the hole (no innuendo intended).... teams will be able to do more with big running backs than fast or agile ones. unless it's barry sanders. and i don't think reggie bush is a barry sanders.
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You don't build an offense around Bush, but to have a luxury player like that only expands what you can do offensively.
He keeps defenses honest.
That's why that team was so explosive last season.
Defenses have to play straight up.
- Sep 30, 2007 11:57pm by DEMENCHA
CHIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEFS!!!
Bowe was awesome today. First Chief's rookie reciever to go for 150 yards in a game.
PEACE
- Oct 1, 2007 02:03am by Whatsgood
If you told me we'd start off 0-2 and then be tied for first after week 4 I'd proably call you a name, with that being said game ball goes to Norv Turner 😆
- Oct 1, 2007 07:28am by phism
i'm going to feel a little bad for samie parker when kennison gets healthy.
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[quote:2015851370="Whatsgood"]If you told me we'd start off 0-2 and then be tied for first after week 4 I'd proably call you a name, with that being said game ball goes to Norv Turner :lol:[/quote:2015851370]
He definitely did a job on San Diego himself.
Going away from Tomlinson was dumb, dumb, dumb...
I still think the Defense would've kept him relatively quiet though.
They were flat dominant in the Second Half.
- Oct 1, 2007 06:39pm by phism
[quote:1102980e96="Whatsgood"]If you told me we'd start off 0-2 and then be tied for first after week 4 I'd proably call you a name, with that being said game ball goes to Norv Turner :lol:[/quote:1102980e96]
our division is turning out to be surprisingly mediocre. considering the obvious decline of the chargers (here's hoping kc rehires schottenheimer) broncos are of a similar caliber (better offense, worse defense), the raiders have come up, and the chiefs... well, i don't really know what to expect from the chiefs from week to week.
bottom line, this is a very, very interesting season. things are turning out much differently than last year.
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I think the AFC West is stronger than it looks at the moment.
The Chiefs put themselves in a great spot by winning a divisional game on the road that they'd normally lose.
They really don't have to win another AFCW game on the road.
They can just run the table at home and be a 4-2 division team.
Though I think they can win in Oakland too... They've got a shot to win the division title if they can win in Oakland. I expect them to beat every divisional opponent in Arrowhead. In the event that they do... They'll be 5-1 in the division.
- Oct 5, 2007 12:51am by Whatsgood
Travis Henry test positive for weed and could face a year suspension. Hello AFC WEST title you've became a little more relatistic.
- Oct 5, 2007 02:36am by phism
haha. man, the nfl is starting to look like the nba. worse, even.
maybe the broncos will try to get ricky williams after all, ironically.
i still think the broncos are a sleeping giant of sorts. al wilson was a big loss, though.
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It's official...
[quote:a36d2e6ca5]DENVER --
Fox 31 News has learned that Denver Broncos running back Travis Henry, the team's leading rusher, has tested positive for marijuana use and could be subject to a one-year suspension.
Henry, 28, previously served a four-game suspension from the National Football League for violating the leagues substance abuse policy in September 2005 as a member of the Tennessee Titans.
Henry can appeal the latest violation. However, if the appeal is denied, he will begin serving a one-year suspension immediately.
Henry can file for reinstatement 60 days prior to the end of the suspension.
The Denver Broncos had no official comment, instead, deferring to the NFL.
The Broncos signed Travis Henry in the off-season to a five-year, $22.5 million contract with $12 million in guarantees.[/quote:a36d2e6ca5]
They have Jack & Squat at RB now and should make a big push for Ricky Williams.
- Oct 7, 2007 01:20am by phism
they'll probably get at least a few more games out of him, with the appeal and all. sucks for him, isn't he the #1 rusher right now?
i saw that the bucs are interested in acquiring chester taylor. perhaps the broncos could look that direction as well.
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That team is in trouble.
So is every other team in the AFC West.
Good one week... Horrible the next.
- Oct 12, 2007 11:25pm by phism
Hawai'i plays in about a half hour on ESPN.
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Hawaii's Colt Brennan.
Could be the Chiefs QBOTF.
- Oct 13, 2007 06:30am by Whatsgood
I got 2 upper level tix i'm trying to sell 85 bucks for the pair which is way below face value. Get at me if you or you know anyone thats interested.
- Oct 13, 2007 01:50pm by phism
[quote:124683b733="Reach."]Hawaii's Colt Brennan.
Could be the Chiefs QBOTF.[/quote:124683b733]
i've been thinking that since i watched him play in the bowl game last year.
i would never support him in any capacity, and the best i would ever say about him is that he is a talented quarterback. i ended up missing the majority of that game. i hope there was enough hair.
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[quote:b3db0555ca="Whatsgood"]I got 2 upper level tix i'm trying to sell 85 bucks for the pair which is way below face value. Get at me if you or you know anyone thats interested.[/quote:b3db0555ca]
DAMN YOU!!!
I'm just now seeing this.
- Oct 17, 2007 08:38pm by Whatsgood
Yea man I was affraid those tix weren't gonna sell but all of a sudden I got several bids on ebay at the last minute. I sat 19 rows up from the Bengals bench 40 yard line, was a hell of a game.
- Oct 18, 2007 01:34am by phism
so, priest holmes?
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He could see some time this weekend in Oakland.
- Oct 19, 2007 04:07am by phism
can priest block?
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Absolutely.
He's much better in pass protection than Larry Johnson.
Remember he played Fullback and blocked for Ricky Williams...
- Oct 23, 2007 05:48pm by phism
i'd like to see a lot of that, then.
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They'd be underutilizing him to put him on a blocking detail.
This guy can still contribute. He's got a nose for paydirt. He's still quick and could provide a much needed boost offensively.
- Oct 24, 2007 06:39am by phism
well, i don't mean solely. what i was thinking is that... if they play him as fullback some of the time, then you've got priest holmes and LJ in the backfield, and the D has to watch out for both of them... then you've got more looks, and it'd probably be even more unpredictable when you've got priest in FB and kolby smith back there too. plus priest and lj can both catch, we saw that a few times in this last game. maybe this is obvious. and i'm sure they're being careful with him for now.
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You can get both of them in the backfield with a Pro Set.
Or a Weak or Strong I formation.
I doubt they're going to use kid gloves in their handling of Priest.
If they think he can contribute... They will use him.
I think he proved last week, when he earned that first down by bouncing a run to the outside, that he can help this football team.
He's the perfect change of pace back.
He's still quick...
- Oct 25, 2007 05:27am by Whatsgood
Ya'll read that BS Whitlock wrote about Priest Holmes? Hows dude still employed? Anyway I agree we should us LJ & Priest at the same time more, when we did it aginst Oakland the Raiders looked confused.
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[quote:dbbce07022="Whatsgood"]Ya'll read that BS Whitlock wrote about Priest Holmes? Hows dude still employed? Anyway I agree we should us LJ & Priest at the same time more, when we did it aginst Oakland the Raiders looked confused.[/quote:dbbce07022]
You read Whitlock's column still?
- Oct 25, 2007 11:11pm by Whatsgood
I try to avoid what him but someone posted it and I thought in his column he'd apologize about bashing Priest, but nope he continued to do so.
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Sour grapes.
He said Holmes would never take the field again.
He was convinced it was an act.
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[URL=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9lOZO8Xz50]MIDSEASON HIGHLIGHT REEL!!![/URL]
- Nov 25, 2007 09:09pm by Whatsgood
Herm Edwards has to go.
- Nov 26, 2007 03:20am by phism
yeah. and solari.
i've got an idea.
[img:d0290646b0]http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nfl/kc/SchottenheimerKC.JPG[/img:d0290646b0]
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He'll NEVER come back while Carl Peterson is still employed by this franchise.
Word is, Bill Cowher's going to return to coaching next season.
If we give Carl the shove off I'd take him in a heartbeat.
- Dec 8, 2007 04:15pm by phism
I would really rather watch the Steelers @ Pats game tomorrow. They're on at the same time, on the same channel, which means we get to watch the exciting AFC West instead. do sports bars have the capability to show games when it's like that?
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Sports Bars with Sunday Ticket will carry that game.
That should be New England's toughest challenge to winning out.
It's gonna be a great game.
- Dec 8, 2007 06:39pm by phism
with troy polamalu probably out and willie parker fumbling all over the place, i'm not so sure. i'd like to see somebody like santonio holmes come out of left field and have a big game.
- Dec 8, 2007 07:58pm by phism
also:
http://www.nfl.com/probowl/ballot
and if you haven't heard this, listen to it:
http://thedashow.com/mp3/DA%20-%20Hermgasm.mp3
http://thedashow.com/mp3/zDA%20-%20Herm-Gasm%20Montage%202006.mp3
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http://thedashow.com/mp3/hermmontage.mp3
- Dec 10, 2007 01:34am by Whatsgood
I wish the Pats game woulda been on instead. We need a new coach fellas I know we're rebuilding but this team flat out quit on it's coach.
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Herm's message has rung hollow.
I think he's lost this team.
We're cruising to a Top 5 pick.
Hello Jake Long or Michael Oher.
- Dec 10, 2007 03:47pm by phism
and with that, i think it's perhaps already time we commence draft talk.
just throwing some names out in addition to those two...
OT Gosder Cherilus (impressive name, to boot)
OT Sam Baker
OT Ryan Clady
OT/OG Eric Young
OT/OG Chris Williams
CB Mike Jenkins
CB Antoine Cason
CB Terrell Thomas
FB Owen Schmitt
FB Peyton Hillis
QB Colt Brennan (except i'm not sure about the whole attempted rapist thing)
DT Glenn Dorsey
DE Chris Long
LB Keith Rivers
LB Dan Connor
there's a couple people that got cut from other teams this past season that i wouldn't mind giving a chance... but that's a little rare.
two of those CBs can return kicks.
i feel like i'm one of the few people really pushing for a decent fullback. i know that's not a position that comes early in the draft anyway, but hey, remember tony richardson? if that dude doesn't get into the hall of fame, it's because that position is just wholly underappreciated. however, i also don't trust FB draft rankings because it seems like people run with their fullbacks a lot more in college and i'd be more interested in their blocking ability.
i'd add some OGs to that list, but i can't find anybody who ranks any of them especially highly. but i think that we shouldn't forget about the inside either.
i think most of the defensive picks can wait until next year, but remember that we have a couple positions that are getting up there in years.
the most important position we should be looking for in the offseason, of course, is GM.
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[quote:96c0f8a605="phism"]and with that, i think it's perhaps already time we commence draft talk.[/quote:96c0f8a605]
Indeed. We're cruising to a Top 5 pick.
[quote:96c0f8a605]OT Gosder Cherilus (impressive name, to boot)[/quote:96c0f8a605]
Cherilus will probably be available mid-to-late First Round.
He'd be an excellent #1 if we were to trade out of the Top 5.
We'd end up with a solid OT and probably a late 2nd Rounder.
[quote:96c0f8a605]OT Sam Baker
OT Ryan Clady[/quote:96c0f8a605]
I'd take Baker, but Clady's my personal choice for the Chiefs in R1.
That's if Michael Oher or Jake Long aren't there.
The two best Offensive Tackles in this year's draft class.
Oher's a freak of nature.
[quote:96c0f8a605]DT Glenn Dorsey[/quote:96c0f8a605]
BEAST... I doubt we'll have a shot at him though.
He could go #1 overall.
[quote:96c0f8a605]i feel like i'm one of the few people really pushing for a decent fullback. i know that's not a position that comes early in the draft anyway, but hey, remember tony richardson? if that dude doesn't get into the hall of fame, it's because that position is just wholly underappreciated. however, i also don't trust FB draft rankings because it seems like people run with their fullbacks a lot more in college and i'd be more interested in their blocking ability.[/quote:96c0f8a605]
This season is proof that we can't afford to fudge that position any longer.
We need a quality FB.
[quote:96c0f8a605]i'd add some OGs to that list, but i can't find anybody who ranks any of them especially highly. but i think that we shouldn't forget about the inside either.[/quote:96c0f8a605]
We really only need to replace one Guard spot.
And I think we can do that in Free Agency.
There will be four young Guards, quality Guards, available in FA.
Jake Scott, Chris Snee, Chris Kemoeatu, and Ryan Lilja (my choice...the hometown kid)
[quote:96c0f8a605]i think most of the defensive picks can wait until next year, but remember that we have a couple positions that are getting up there in years.[/quote:96c0f8a605]
I wouldn't mind seeing the Chiefs take an OLB and CB in this year's draft.
We could use some DE depth as well.
[quote:96c0f8a605]the most important position we should be looking for in the offseason, of course, is GM.[/quote:96c0f8a605]
And Head Coach... And Offensive Coordinator... And QB's Coach...
- Dec 11, 2007 02:06am by phism
[url=http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06293/731573-66.stm]Kemoeatu[/url] and Lilja might want a sizable contract, they're becoming bigger names. I'd pay either of them enough though.
I know the Chiefs have never really successfully developed a QB, but I am perfectly okay with that. We could stick to getting free agent veterans for the rest of the franchise's existence and I would never complain.
I wouldn't be surprised if Solari was done next year, but I think the rest of the staff is probably going to be here longer than anyone would like. I still don't understand why we picked up Herm in the first place... remember the Jets?
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[quote:df1482ff06="phism"][url=http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06293/731573-66.stm]Kemoeatu[/url] and Lilja might want a sizable contract, they're becoming bigger names. I'd pay either of them enough though.[/quote:df1482ff06]
I don't think either of them will command top-dollar.
I think they'll both come at a bargain.
Especially Lilja since Kansas City is his hometown.
I get the feeling that he'd give his right arm to play for this team...again.
[quote:df1482ff06]I know the Chiefs have never really successfully developed a QB, but I am perfectly okay with that. We could stick to getting free agent veterans for the rest of the franchise's existence and I would never complain.[/quote:df1482ff06]
I think at some point you have to try to develop your own players.
Especially at the QB position.
We've trotted veteran QB's out on the field for more than 20 years.
Croyle was the first drafted QB to start a game since Todd Blackledge in 1984. That was LONG overdue.
[quote:df1482ff06]I wouldn't be surprised if Solari was done next year, but I think the rest of the staff is probably going to be here longer than anyone would like.[/quote:df1482ff06]
I think they'll all be given another year to do something with this team.
Clark Hunt made no comment when asked if Peterson's job was in jeopardy. I'm still not sure if that's good or bad...
- Dec 12, 2007 03:12pm by phism
[quote:8ed092ade8="Reach."]I think at some point you have to try to develop your own players.
Especially at the QB position.[/quote:8ed092ade8]
Only if it's the right QB.
[quote:8ed092ade8]I think they'll all be given another year to do something with this team.
Clark Hunt made no comment when asked if Peterson's job was in jeopardy. I'm still not sure if that's good or bad...[/quote:8ed092ade8]
I assume they will, too. However, not commenting on that question is better than if he had just said he'll be back.
- Dec 12, 2007 03:56pm by Whatsgood
[quote:d2d99116ce="phism"][url=http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06293/731573-66.stm]Kemoeatu[/url]
I know the Chiefs have never really successfully developed a QB, but I am perfectly okay with that. We could stick to getting free agent veterans for the rest of the franchise's existence and I would never complain.
Jets?[/quote:d2d99116ce]
I somewhat agree. If you look at our franchise history the two best QB's (from a stats standpoint) are Len Dawson & Trent Green. Neither were drafted by the club both had success Green woulda had atlast one ring if we ever had a defense.
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[quote:9ef1ce455f="phism"]Only if it's the right QB.
[/quote:9ef1ce455f]
True, but there's really no way to determine who the right QB is until you give that QB time to develop.
[quote:9ef1ce455f="phism"]
I assume they will, too. However, not commenting on that question is better than if he had just said he'll be back.[/quote:9ef1ce455f]
The dreaded vote of confidence.
I still think that decision will come after the last 3 games.
If they lose out... King Carl could be in trouble.
Sunday's season finale at Arrowhead will be paramount.
If only 59,000 people show up...
That could weigh heavily into Clark's decision.
- Dec 14, 2007 07:30am by Whatsgood
[quote:c364561a3e="Reach."][quote:c364561a3e="phism"]Only if it's the right QB.
[/quote:c364561a3e]
True, but there's really no way to determine who the right QB is until you give that QB time to develop.
[quote:c364561a3e="phism"]
I assume they will, too. However, not commenting on that question is better than if he had just said he'll be back.[/quote:c364561a3e]
The dreaded vote of confidence.
I still think that decision will come after the last 3 games.
If they lose out... King Carl could be in trouble.
Sunday's season finale at Arrowhead will be paramount.
If only 59,000 people show up...
That could weigh heavily into Clark's decision.[/quote:c364561a3e]
I'd be surprised if they get 59,000 i'm thinking 45,000 to 50,000. It's gonna be cold out as well and I just think people are tired of whats going on out there.
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[quote:a23bd36f72="Whatsgood"]
I'd be surprised if they get 59,000 i'm thinking 45,000 to 50,000. It's gonna be cold out as well and I just think people are tired of whats going on out there.[/quote:a23bd36f72]
Really? Just 45,000?
That would result in a blackout.
- Dec 14, 2007 09:03am by phism
i hope the chiefs lose the rest of their games, because it'll be better for the team to 1) get those draft picks, 2) hopefully fire the right people.
i'll be cheering on the vikings, packers, steelers, and browns.
- Dec 14, 2007 01:36pm by Whatsgood
I'm afraid to lose out man I kinda want to avoid a top 10 pick heres why.. Guys taken in the top 10 make hella money and they are unproven. We've drafted in the middle the last 3 seasons and we've gotten DJ,Hali,Bowe. All three are nice players who didn't cost a boat load of money.
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Top 10 picks are golden.
And this year's First Round presents maybe 5 franchise players.
If nothing else we can trade down and acquire another late First Rounder or something in the early to mid Second Round.
The Chiefs could draft a guy like Jake Long or Malcolm Jenkins with their #1. If they lose out they could wind up with a pick as high as 4th overall.
I'm all for it.
Besides... All I really want to see is young players get game experience and develop so they'll be further along when 2008 begins.
- Dec 14, 2007 10:05pm by phism
[quote:ecbf66c3ea="Whatsgood"]I'm afraid to lose out man I kinda want to avoid a top 10 pick heres why.. Guys taken in the top 10 make hella money and they are unproven. We've drafted in the middle the last 3 seasons and we've gotten DJ,Hali,Bowe. All three are nice players who didn't cost a boat load of money.[/quote:ecbf66c3ea]
i'm of the opposite opinion, i think last year's draft went so well, that i wouldn't mind seeing us trade some of our draft picks and a couple players for less draft picks, higher up. i think this year we have the luxury of not needing depth so much as key positions, and we might as well be high enough on the boards to get good players for those positions...
last year, it was more that we needed depth on so many positions that we could just take whoever looked like the best overall player.
next year, all i'm hoping for from the offense is that they are on the field long enough to give the defense some rest.
- Dec 15, 2007 08:47pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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We need starters this year.
At probably 5 different spots.
RG, RT, C, WR, CB...
