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Topic: H. Rap Brown

  1. Jul 19, 2007 09:38pm by JDFlow - [url=http://www.my.rawkus.com/profile/jdflow]JDFlow on Rawkus[/url] [url=http://www.myspace.com/jdflow]JDFlow on Myspace[/url] [url=http://ccedistribution.blogspot.com/]Distribution & Marketing[/url] Location: Seattle
    Have you heard of this guy? I was reading a KRS interview and his book "Die N!663r Die" came up. Apparently parts of the book are written in rhyme scheme and he talks about rapping and posing to illustrate his hardness in front of others. I'm ordering the book off amazon right now cause I gotta read this for myself. However, I know KRS wouldn't damage his credibility as a hiphop historian by making this up. Oh yeah! The book was published in 1969 and was probably written before that. It's also crazy that homies middle name is Rap. As an emcee this is priceless knowledge.
  2. Jul 19, 2007 11:01pm by Krisna - "We live in an intensely political age and theory and historical experience show us that the condition of any artistic development is an uncompromising hostility to the values of Stalinism and to those of American bourgeois society." -CLR James
    Yeah, JD, he was a prominent black nationalist and member of SNCC and the Black Panther Party (along with Stokely Carmichael). He was a real dope orator. Check out this clip from YouTube. This was at a Black Panther Party "Free Huey" convention. I'm sure there's others out there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WPI26_mhS0
  3. Jul 19, 2007 11:53pm by Les...Izmore - "Knowledge Speaks, Wisdom Listens" www.Izmore.com twitter.com/LesIzmoreHOD www.youtube.com/izmoremusic IZMORE/Soul Providers/RRC Location: MIDDLE OF THE MAP
    Yep he was dope individual. He changed his name to Jamil Abdullah al-Amin and is now serving a life sentence for a conviction he received around 2000.
  4. Jul 20, 2007 01:30am by JDFlow - [url=http://www.my.rawkus.com/profile/jdflow]JDFlow on Rawkus[/url] [url=http://www.myspace.com/jdflow]JDFlow on Myspace[/url] [url=http://ccedistribution.blogspot.com/]Distribution & Marketing[/url] Location: Seattle
    Word, I've read a couple of books by different Panthers and never saw his name and if I did it was brief. Looks like I have some more learning to do.
  5. Jul 20, 2007 03:05pm by Krisna - "We live in an intensely political age and theory and historical experience show us that the condition of any artistic development is an uncompromising hostility to the values of Stalinism and to those of American bourgeois society." -CLR James
    JD, he and Stokely Carmichael were Panthers for only a hot minute. I believe Huey had asked them to leave or they may have left on their own accord because of political differences. Stokely and Rap were more nationalistic whereas the Panthers were more Maoist. I'll see if I can find some literature that juxtaposes the two for you. Peace.
  6. Jul 21, 2007 11:56pm by JDFlow - [url=http://www.my.rawkus.com/profile/jdflow]JDFlow on Rawkus[/url] [url=http://www.myspace.com/jdflow]JDFlow on Myspace[/url] [url=http://ccedistribution.blogspot.com/]Distribution & Marketing[/url] Location: Seattle
    [quote:18cce14f1b="Krisna"]JD, he and Stokely Carmichael were Panthers for only a hot minute. I believe Huey had asked them to leave or they may have left on their own accord because of political differences. Stokely and Rap were more nationalistic whereas the Panthers were more Maoist. I'll see if I can find some literature that juxtaposes the two for you. Peace.[/quote:18cce14f1b] I read about the differences of the panthers and the black nationalists in Bobby Seales Seize the Time
  7. Jul 22, 2007 12:18am by Krisna - "We live in an intensely political age and theory and historical experience show us that the condition of any artistic development is an uncompromising hostility to the values of Stalinism and to those of American bourgeois society." -CLR James
    I've never read [i:c78d9b5e2e]Seize the Time[/i:c78d9b5e2e], but I've read [i:c78d9b5e2e]To Die for the People[/i:c78d9b5e2e], by Newton and Carmichael's [i:c78d9b5e2e]Black Power[/i:c78d9b5e2e]. Both are really good and of their time, but they both suffer from a number of pitfalls in logic and in politics. Of course, it isn't may place to criticize them, only their application to today's circumstances. Also, for a really solid inside account you should read Elaine Brown's [i:c78d9b5e2e]A Taste of Power[/i:c78d9b5e2e]. You probably already know that she became Chair of the Panthers after Seale was expelled. I don't know how interested you are in Black Power, but I highly, highly recommend C.L.R. James' [i:c78d9b5e2e]Black Power[/i:c78d9b5e2e] which was a speech he delivered in London in 1967. Its a real short read (15 pages or so) and it's available online at [url]http://www.marxists.org/archive/james-clr/works/1967/black-power.htm[/url]. And if you dig that, you should cop his [i:c78d9b5e2e]History of Pan-African Revolt [/i:c78d9b5e2e]which is about 115 pages. Both are great reads, but James' [i:c78d9b5e2e]Black Power[/i:c78d9b5e2e] is the best place to start. Let me know what you think if you wind up reading them, JD.
  8. Jul 22, 2007 01:14am by JDFlow - [url=http://www.my.rawkus.com/profile/jdflow]JDFlow on Rawkus[/url] [url=http://www.myspace.com/jdflow]JDFlow on Myspace[/url] [url=http://ccedistribution.blogspot.com/]Distribution & Marketing[/url] Location: Seattle
    Good lookin out on the information. I'm not so much into black power as I am black history. If you don't know where you came from you'll never get to where you're going. The problem is we have an entire nation of black people who for the most part are kept in the dark about their heritage by our racist school systems. If you ask me all this literature should be readily available and discussed in classroom settings instead of the continuous bullshit we're force-fed about "the wonderful europeans". I'll definitely be peepin these books out.
  9. Jul 22, 2007 01:24am by Krisna - "We live in an intensely political age and theory and historical experience show us that the condition of any artistic development is an uncompromising hostility to the values of Stalinism and to those of American bourgeois society." -CLR James
    JD, I hear you. The problem is that even European history is told in a fashion that ignores its own class and caste struggles, from the Reformation, to Irish colonization, to the Italian factory workers movement. Instead it's painted similar to American history, that this or that leader did such and such for this people. All in all, as far as the educational institutions are concerned, history is a top-down process. But they deliberately avoid a bottom-up approach towards history because its incompatible with employer rule. But if you're a black history buff, there are a number of recommendations I can make. What aspect of black history are you interested in? American? West Indian? African? I guess Pan-Africanism covers all those topics and then some. Again, James' [i:7e4a7757fa]Black Power[/i:7e4a7757fa] is a great departure point. Let me know.