Topic: DMX
- Jun 29, 2007 05:38pm by Whatsgood
Anyone go to that concert last night? I went and would like to share my thoughts...
First the guy who opened Sugar Cane and his group were pretty dope I think they're from Topeka? I hope to catch them agin sometime soon. After they did there thing the DJ played some club music trying to get people pumped then some band thats signed to DMX's label came on and I gotta say I wasn't impressed I thought they were pretty wack. After that the dj played some more club music for 15 mins or so THEN X came on and it was good which leads me into my next point...
It was GOOD but coulda been a little better. Man X and the Lox went so well together howcome they never make music anywhere? Its the perfect combination i'll never forget all those ruff ryder cd's that had the lox on them with Dmx on the track occasionally Eve too but i'd always skip her part.
And those are my thoughts
- Jun 29, 2007 05:54pm by sixer
Dude's human, can't be hot shit every night. That's why you have to be superhuman to be great and such. I mean, he cries on stage, so he's obviously just human. That bastard.
- Jun 29, 2007 06:22pm by NRG - livin the art that is life !
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wow having read this before posting it I gonna collect all these babblings from this site someday and write a book from them. thanks for the idea Rich
DMX will never be the younger version of himself again
havin said that, that doesn't stop fans , curious seeker, or name dropper from want that version of hip even tho they too know he doesn't exist too
no you don't have to be superhuman to be great, you have to know
when you're saleing a bunch of shit and be ready to sale a bunch of shit
ie, tour tour tour, studio studio, media media,quietly take a month off, and hit all that shit again.
and even when the first signs of that shit start to slow, you got to redouble your efforts for at least a couple years to milk that shit til its dead or start reinventing yourself as a helper to other artists,
the youth, ie start giving something back since you made so much from riding that wave.
learn every aspect of the business you involved with, so as the fickled interest of the public fades, you have other areas of interest, other ways to make money, and can use what's left of your name sparingly to make a big wad of money when you can.
mostly you got to know going into this shit, you got to build great memories for you and your fans while their in love with you, cuz they will remember them, forgive your short coming, pay to see you when no one else will, and be yo bread and butter for life if you treat them right.
- Jun 30, 2007 12:46am by Whatsgood
X was the shit in the day and hes still good my question was whatever happend with him & The Lox? Them together was like bread & butter shit was hot. Why do rappers feel the need to change it up? Whats wrong with the if it aint broke don't fix it approach? These days too many people complain bout hip-hop and how it sucks and how people need to try something different. What the fuck is wrong with a hot beat, nice word play, and some energy? Rappers need to be themselves keep doin what your doin fuck all this "we need new shit".
- Jun 30, 2007 02:03am by sixer
You're both right. Almost every word.
- Jun 30, 2007 07:03am by NRG - livin the art that is life !
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[quote:a165114567="Whatsgood"]X was the shit in the day and hes still good my question was whatever happend with him & The Lox? Them together was like bread & butter shit was hot. Why do rappers feel the need to change it up? Whats wrong with the if it aint broke don't fix it approach? These days too many people complain bout hip-hop and how it sucks and how people need to try something different. What the fuck is wrong with a hot beat, nice word play, and some energy? Rappers need to be themselves keep doin what your doin fuck all this "we need new shit".[/quote:a165114567]
they are artists that implies that they are all about change, some subtle which their fans will support or not so subtle, which will piss some of their fans off.
either way, in my opinion, artists worth their salt will take the risk of fucking up from time to time, instead of choosing to cater to fans because for artists that experiementation is why they do what they do.
Sale out= catering only to what fans, record labels, radio will support with airplay, sales, and financing. if you are seeking truth, you gotta expand and expansion can be messy and just plan different. which can mean pissin fans off.
- Jun 30, 2007 03:01pm by Fur1ous - "She said, 'who the fuck died and made you God?' I said, Jesus"
But that's the whole point NRG.....it isn't always necessary to "progress" as an artist. In any other profession a person strives to be the best at what they do, they don't feel it necessary to change the whole approach...as they say, practice makes perfect.
I completely respect an artist's right to experiment creatively, but sometimes it just doesn't work. Take Common for example, he went back to the old formula and made a classic album....Nas as well.
Sometimes as an artist, you gotta come home! DMX is at his best spitting hardcore, in your face, killemall raps, the only thing that's really changed is the fans don't wanna hear that anymore.
I say, as an artist, that you should keep the formula that works for you, but tweek the approach every now and then to keep it fresh
- Jun 30, 2007 07:18pm by NRG - livin the art that is life !
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[quote:a25c7d7731]But that's the whole point NRG.....it isn't always necessary to "progress" as an artist. In any other profession a person strives to be the best at what they do, they don't feel it necessary to change the whole approach...as they say, practice makes perfect.
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I dont' think I said they have to change, I am simply saying they can be more adaptable and experiential than most everyday working folks. I also said subtle to not so subtle change.
[quote:a25c7d7731] I completely respect an artist's right to experiment creatively, but sometimes it just doesn't work. Take Common for example, he went back to the old formula and made a classic album....Nas as well. [/quote:a25c7d7731]
exactly preaching to the choir said and said again. my point being least he took the risk cuz he heard something and wanted to see what it was. maybe he rediscovered rock heard a fusion of some kind. wouldn't be the first time hiphop and rock met up. Everybody raved about madlibs cd where he got to use samples from a jazz vault of classics. I was not so impressed by that, but it was a special occurance and innovation not presented before. sometimes an artist steps out fails and goes back to whats' familiar, but in the process, how many young bloods and common's contemperaries heard that failure and tried something new, incorporated music they never would have, maybe an interlude or what ever. you get me? I can think of local innovator who impacted local music because of something they did that was somehow different than what the norm was at the time.
[quote:a25c7d7731]Sometimes as an artist, you gotta come home! DMX is at his best spitting hardcore, in your face, killemall raps, the only thing that's really changed is the fans don't wanna hear that anymore.[/quote:a25c7d7731]
his message is no longer relevant, fine, but he is a repository of information, history, knowledge, skills gained over the span of his career if he can figure it out can continue to make him valuble to the industry and community. OR HE CAN SCREW ALL THAT UP [u:a25c7d7731]BY NOT RECOGNIZING THE REAL [/u:a25c7d7731]"the only thing that's really changed is the fans don't wanna hear that anymore" AND RUIN HIS REP AND ANY CHANCES OF other value. he may not care about that
its all abOut longevity . . . . . . . . . . . . .to me efficient use of a lifetime of talent, skill, insights, etc
[quote:a25c7d7731]I say, as an artist, that you should keep the formula that works for you, but tweek the approach every now and then to keep it fresh.[/quote:a25c7d7731]
and I say as an artists we agree on the basic stuff furious, we're just using our own experiences to get at it. some people are "catalysts" others are "solidifiers" of change.
but most don't have a clue about how change occurs, they just do what's popular withOUT noticing it ain't what they used to do haha WAKE UP
- Jul 1, 2007 02:43am by DEMENCHA
I went. I thought he should've, and the crowd would've been more into it had he done more songs off his first album.
It really pissed me off when he did get at me dog halfway through and cut it out to his next song. I was pissed. It almost ruined the show for me.
Show was alright, overall.
