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Apr 6, 2007 09:29pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness, www.emceereach.com www.myspace.com/reach www.twitter.com/emceereach www.youtube.com/reachtv www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic2 www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic Location: Kansas City
[url=http://mediamatters.org/items/200704040011]Imus in the morning...[/url] I'm not surprised by much, but damn Imus...
Apr 6, 2007 10:14pm by beatbroker - -beatbroker HHA/Symbol Heavy/IN crew Location: KCMO
yup. dude is, has been and always will be tasteless.
Apr 6, 2007 10:16pm by LouRip - "Im not supposed to be here, Im just not!!" www.myspace.com/louisrip www.myspace.com/bluezbrothaz www.myspace.com/soulservers www.myspace.com/ukuepto soulservers/bluezbrothaz/big me,bigger us/d-list wreckordz
Imus...be hearing things..... Imus...not buy into that bullshit ass apology... Imus...cannot believe how ignorance like this can continue to flow so easily through entertainers mouths.... almost makes you wonder if this is gonna become a tactic used recharge or jumpstart careers I mean nobody gave a fuck about Michael Richardson until he openly displayed his ignorance...& tho no one wants to be known as a racist...the idea is to plain & simply be known...for sumthin.... history has a long list of notorious acts committed that brought instant notoriety to average Joe's.... just sayin...
Apr 6, 2007 10:38pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness, www.emceereach.com www.myspace.com/reach www.twitter.com/emceereach www.youtube.com/reachtv www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic2 www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic Location: Kansas City
Doesn't end there folks... [url=http://mediamatters.org/items/200703070009?f=i_related]Bernard McGuirk is off the chain...[/url]
Apr 7, 2007 08:28am by Whatsgood
He usually has some good political figures on. Sentaor McCain & Kerry are on there alot. Really messed up what he said but I got a feeling his show will continue.
Apr 9, 2007 12:06am by DR.T - nuts .. haha Location: KCMO
[size=18:ae2dc3c58e]Man...there sure are a lot of apologetic old white men in the news as of late....[/size:ae2dc3c58e]
Apr 9, 2007 05:44am by NRG - livin the art that is life ! www.64111clinic.com fam www.nrginmotion.com massage www.myspace.com/nrginmotion world community Location: havenhouse KCK/ 64111 Clinic 4 Life
getting caught saying what you REALLY believe can be a sobbering experience. getting caught in america doesn't mean shit anymore tho 15 minutes of attention rule reins. our minds are like silves these days "NOTHING STICKS" besides theres always tomorrows headlines to get ready for wake up dammit hold yourself and others accountable for our actions
Apr 9, 2007 07:51am by Whatsgood
Everyone wants to paint Imus as some hateful KKK member and maybe he is hateful but I do recall he was friends with some black guy that died recently. I think he was a bishop of some sort but I cant remember his name. Anyway the comments were very messed up but i'm not sure that he totally dislikes the black race.
Apr 9, 2007 03:23pm by LouRip - "Im not supposed to be here, Im just not!!" www.myspace.com/louisrip www.myspace.com/bluezbrothaz www.myspace.com/soulservers www.myspace.com/ukuepto soulservers/bluezbrothaz/big me,bigger us/d-list wreckordz
i dont believe that making racist comments make you a racist, i do believe that some people are just plain ignorant to what is acceptable & unacceptable to say. I have met people who were sincerely unaware just how deep the sensitivity of issues like this can cut. He surley knows now, if he wasnt aware before that those type of statements wont fly.
Apr 9, 2007 03:45pm by nadia
How classic: the guy says something completely revolting, and we're supposed to excuse it because he has a black friend?
Apr 9, 2007 05:02pm by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing www.dipity.com/acefadal WE ARE, Kansas City is [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]! http://crushproofstudio.bandcamp.com/ Location: Downtown, Kansas City, Mo.
His Black friend is that dude that was dancing on stage with Carl Rove.... was degrading Hip Hop. 😈 So if I say, "Your moms a stupid dead hoe." and your mom was dead, and I apologize. "My bad I didnt know"..... you promise not to get up in that ass? There some shit you just cant say and expect a bandaid to heal the gash....He needs to be stitched up!
Apr 9, 2007 07:01pm by JDFlow - [url=http://www.my.rawkus.com/profile/jdflow]JDFlow on Rawkus[/url] [url=http://www.myspace.com/jdflow]JDFlow on Myspace[/url] [url=http://ccedistribution.blogspot.com/]Distribution & Marketing[/url] Location: Seattle
[quote:430d7d069a="LouRip"]i dont believe that making racist comments make you a racist, i do believe that some people are just plain ignorant to what is acceptable & unacceptable to say. I have met people who were sincerely unaware just how deep the sensitivity of issues like this can cut. He surley knows now, if he wasnt aware before that those type of statements wont fly.[/quote:430d7d069a] Couldn't have said that better. It's like the overland park white chics running around speaking some fu$#ed up form of ebonics that always ends in "Shooo".
Apr 9, 2007 07:26pm by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing www.dipity.com/acefadal WE ARE, Kansas City is [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]! http://crushproofstudio.bandcamp.com/ Location: Downtown, Kansas City, Mo.
[size=24:35485f5548][color=orange:35485f5548]Yeah but those white chics don't have a nationally syndicated talk show that is listened to by over two million people. Who also interviews political candidates. People who get paid and are listened to by millions of people and have politacal, economical, and financial persuasion need to edit what they say[/color:35485f5548].[/size:35485f5548] Kanye lost some sponsors when he said that shit about Bush and he was speaking truth. Its not about freedom of speech, its about being held accountable. Its funny that this is coming out during the 35th anniversary of womens suffrage. People are not sensitive enough and are saying what they want. i hear people all over Kansas City use those nasty words, Spic,Wetback,Mojado, Nigger, Kyke, Chink, Wop, Fag...a phrase coined by Hitler no less, and everybodies ghetto or gay. wtf? no one seems to be held accountable. Eveyone just resigns, then they show up five years later doing the same kind of work. ..... i.e. Henry Kissenger. Lack of education is no excuse for being insensitive. It continues and it is getting worse. Nothing happened to Mike Richards and he is still working. [url]http://eurweb.com/story/eur30074.cfm[/url] and you can bet he's laughed it up about that shit with some of your Hollywood favorites. 😉
Apr 9, 2007 07:35pm by Whatsgood
[quote:4139df9a14="nadia"]How classic: the guy says something completely revolting, and we're supposed to excuse it because he has a black friend?[/quote:4139df9a14] Oh come on seriously the guy makes a mistake and everyone tries to make him look like a villan. I highly dobut you know much about the guy but you'll judge him based on a mistake. I hope you hold hip-hop artist to the same standard I've heard far worse racial things by them.
Apr 9, 2007 08:11pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness, www.emceereach.com www.myspace.com/reach www.twitter.com/emceereach www.youtube.com/reachtv www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic2 www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic Location: Kansas City
Imus villainized himself... And the whole "I have Black friends" disclaimer is about as effective as "the dog ate my homework". I'm sorry, but there should be stiff penalties handed down for this one. He's an adult. He should be held accountable for what he said...
Apr 9, 2007 08:27pm by DR.T - nuts .. haha Location: KCMO
[size=18:e12fb4d98e]If you crack a race joke...make sure it's funny because if not....you'll be labeled a racist for the rest of eternity...[/size:e12fb4d98e] real talk .
Apr 9, 2007 08:38pm by Whatsgood
[quote:df1c0974a2="Reach."]Imus villainized himself... And the whole "I have Black friends" disclaimer is about as effective as "the dog ate my homework". I'm sorry, but there should be stiff penalties handed down for this one. He's an adult. He should be held accountable for what he said...[/quote:df1c0974a2] Should he lose his job though? Agin i'm not defending him what he said was pretty fucked up he should recieve a huge fine but i'm not real shocked after all he is a shock jock and im not excusing what he did.
Apr 9, 2007 08:40pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness, www.emceereach.com www.myspace.com/reach www.twitter.com/emceereach www.youtube.com/reachtv www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic2 www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic Location: Kansas City
He should absolutely be relieved of his duties at MSNBC. And not simply because of this one incident, but because there have been several instances of racial insensitivity on the airwaves. They should make an example out of him. And McGuirk.
Apr 9, 2007 08:59pm by LouRip - "Im not supposed to be here, Im just not!!" www.myspace.com/louisrip www.myspace.com/bluezbrothaz www.myspace.com/soulservers www.myspace.com/ukuepto soulservers/bluezbrothaz/big me,bigger us/d-list wreckordz
should he lose his job? Im pretty sure if any white guy walked up to a black female @ work & referred to her as a "nappy-headed hoe"....the repercussions of his "mistake" would not be minor.....
Apr 9, 2007 09:09pm by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing www.dipity.com/acefadal WE ARE, Kansas City is [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]! http://crushproofstudio.bandcamp.com/ Location: Downtown, Kansas City, Mo.
If he dont get fired are we going to boycott MSNBC? or the stations that support him? Oh and check that link Reach posted....Theres more where that came from!!! He is a f***ing biggot! [url]http://mediamatters.org/items/200703070009?f=i_related[/url]
Apr 9, 2007 09:13pm by LouRip - "Im not supposed to be here, Im just not!!" www.myspace.com/louisrip www.myspace.com/bluezbrothaz www.myspace.com/soulservers www.myspace.com/ukuepto soulservers/bluezbrothaz/big me,bigger us/d-list wreckordz
This should clear up any gray on wheter or not he deserves to get fired.... I present to you Mr Imus's official "apology"..... if you dont feel like reading it all...just read the title http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/news/story?id=2830850
Apr 9, 2007 09:17pm by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing www.dipity.com/acefadal WE ARE, Kansas City is [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]! http://crushproofstudio.bandcamp.com/ Location: Downtown, Kansas City, Mo.
what about for the comment in the link above? nevermind...you honkys will never get it.. Oh Im sorry. I was just kidding. Cracker ass peckerwoods. just kidding wiggers. ohh.. just joking. Dont hold any of these things against me. Even if i repeat them in private and dont apologize. this shit has got me pissed off at my so-called peeps, whats wrong with ya'll. Im shaking because of what i just typed..That shit aint right!!!! even though I doubt it even made one white person on this site feel "uncomfortable" I really dont feel that way just trying to make a point. I feel like people need validation for the f**** things they say themselves. Here is also an example of what did happen to his sidekick Rosenberg, little bitch...who was supposed to be kicked off the show.. [url]http://www.phillytalk.com/people/sid-rosenberg.html[/url]
Apr 9, 2007 10:46pm by Whatsgood
[quote:64e45ff071="LouRip"]should he lose his job? Im pretty sure if any white guy walked up to a black female @ work & referred to her as a "nappy-headed hoe"....the repercussions of his "mistake" would not be minor.....[/quote:64e45ff071] Which would just show her ignorance by esceclating force over an ignorant statement. He's a washed up shock jock who I doubt anyone on here even knew about until this. Hes been suspended 2 weeks don't see how he can be fired.
Apr 9, 2007 10:53pm by LouRip - "Im not supposed to be here, Im just not!!" www.myspace.com/louisrip www.myspace.com/bluezbrothaz www.myspace.com/soulservers www.myspace.com/ukuepto soulservers/bluezbrothaz/big me,bigger us/d-list wreckordz
[quote:d9a5e2be79="Whatsgood"][quote:d9a5e2be79="LouRip"]should he lose his job? Im pretty sure if any white guy walked up to a black female @ work & referred to her as a "nappy-headed hoe"....the repercussions of his "mistake" would not be minor.....[/quote:d9a5e2be79] Which would just show her ignorance by esceclating force over an ignorant statement. He's a washed up shock jock who I doubt anyone on here even knew about until this. Hes been suspended 2 weeks don't see how he can be fired.[/quote:d9a5e2be79] Not really sure how someone would be considered "ignorant" by exercising their legal rights to be provided with a hostile-free work environment. She would most certainly be ignorant for not saying anything which only means that she condones such behavior. Thank God our Civil Rights Leaders didnt share your "backseat" mentality....
Apr 9, 2007 11:18pm by Whatsgood
[quote:7087068d57="LouRip"][quote:7087068d57="Whatsgood"][quote:7087068d57="LouRip"]should he lose his job? Im pretty sure if any white guy walked up to a black female @ work & referred to her as a "nappy-headed hoe"....the repercussions of his "mistake" would not be minor.....[/quote:7087068d57] Which would just show her ignorance by esceclating force over an ignorant statement. He's a washed up shock jock who I doubt anyone on here even knew about until this. Hes been suspended 2 weeks don't see how he can be fired.[/quote:7087068d57] Not really sure how someone would be considered "ignorant" by exercising their legal rights to be provided with a hostile-free work environment. She would most certainly be ignorant for not saying anything which only means that she condones such behavior. Thank God our Civil Rights Leaders didnt share your "backseat" mentality....[/quote:7087068d57] I thought you were implying she would strike him with an opened fist not a law suit. You dont have to be so condescending. Thing is the guy has said stuff before everyone kinda turned there head were was everyone the first time it happend? Secondly you put a racist shock dj behind a mic you're going to get racist shock comments simple. Its become part of American culture to bitch about things and never really fix them protesting and complaning about it isnt going to do much and I don't see what calling for his head will do. My solution is THIS: WFAN should be fined 500k Imus himself should be fined 500K and MSNBC should be fined 500k. All of that money would go to a poor black community to help improve the school,build a libary ect.
Apr 9, 2007 11:36pm by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing www.dipity.com/acefadal WE ARE, Kansas City is [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]! http://crushproofstudio.bandcamp.com/ Location: Downtown, Kansas City, Mo.
will never happen.....Just like Democrats Elect wont get us out of Iraq. who cares? this will disappear just like the mike richards shit. Ill give it one week. Imus will be back just like Rosenberg, just like Richards..shit just like Rush Limbaugh. That nigga said crazy shit about M.J. Fox. Nothing happened. What are you proud to be an American for?
Apr 9, 2007 11:39pm by Whatsgood
I think thats where my frustration comes in Ace.. America as a whole these days is nothing other than bitching and negativity with no solutions.
Apr 9, 2007 11:56pm by LouRip - "Im not supposed to be here, Im just not!!" www.myspace.com/louisrip www.myspace.com/bluezbrothaz www.myspace.com/soulservers www.myspace.com/ukuepto soulservers/bluezbrothaz/big me,bigger us/d-list wreckordz
Given the nature of this thread,& my senario, I didnt think i had to explain what the repercussions of a white mans actions would be for calling someone a nappy headed hoe...in a corporate environment...not on the street... but fine....my bad.... Secondly your right ....if you put a racist dj on the radio...you will get racist remarks...with that being said, I dont see how putting a band-aid on this cut...(fining the station)... is gonna teach him or the station a lesson. Im not suggesting that the man get his ass-kicked but I am suggesting that he recieves a signal that he will feel thats more effective than any protest, any fine & any half-ass apology he can give. The REAL probelm with situations like these is that its becoming so standard & routine, that within 48 hours, all is forgiven & everybody moves on without the guilty being SLIGHTLY punished....& at the end of the day, it's seen as the innocent complaning because the guilty has already used his "get out of jail free" card by saying two simple words "Im sorry", meaning that public humiliation within a 7-day time spand should serve as his only source of punishment.... To say that its just a bunch of complaning is rediculous. We dont have the power to fire him, this thread would be irrelivant if we did.... but we do have the power to voice our opinions.... which is what makes this thread what it is...
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[quote:484c041d60="AceFadal"][size=24][color=orange]Yeah but those white chics don't have a nationally syndicated talk show that is listened to by over two million people.[/quote:484c041d60] I agree to the fullest. You know those offensively obvious pre-employment tests they make you take at some interviews? With the questions like "Is it okay to steal from your employer sometimes?" You would think for a job with this salary and level of exposure that there might be an upgraded test out there with questions like "No one really believes we're all equal, do they?" As offensive as the tests that are submitted to us lower/middle class are there is a reason for them. There are actually idiots out there that answer the truth of thier mind instead of what the company wants to hear. I bet the television industry would be shocked by the outcome of a mass employee testing. Haha, the first time I saw one of those tests I was thinkin "okay, this is basically a separation tool to see who's a clueless moron and who's worthy of the time for a physical interview." Then I heard them telling this guy at the desk "based on your test score we're unable to offer you employment at this time." WTF?
Apr 10, 2007 12:50am by Reach. - Peace and oneness, www.emceereach.com www.myspace.com/reach www.twitter.com/emceereach www.youtube.com/reachtv www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic2 www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic Location: Kansas City
Imus should be out of a job. At least at MSNBC. He stuck his foot in his mouth. He's sorry... That's all wonderful, but sorry should never negate consequences.
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[quote:7cb41a3df6="Reach."]Imus should be out of a job. At least at MSNBC. He stuck his foot in his mouth. He's sorry... That's all wonderful, but sorry should never negate consequences.[/quote:7cb41a3df6] [url]http://wcco.com/slideshows/photoalbum_slideshow_324160333[/url]
Apr 10, 2007 01:12am by Lucidialect
So, help me out. In his talk with Jessie Jackson, the concern over the statement "Nappy-headed hoes" focuses on the use of the word "nappy" rather than "hoes". Why is it bad to refer to someone as having "nappy" hair, but not to refer to a girl as a ho? I mean this seriously. I don't know this guy. I'm not trying to get into the ethics of whether the brunt of what he said was wrong or not. But, is the word "nappy" a bad word?
Apr 10, 2007 01:28am by Whatsgood
Howcome when fred sanford and george jefferson had a show and said Honkey all the time people just shrugged it off?
Apr 10, 2007 01:30am by Whatsgood
Sharpton also said the comments were borderline homophobic wtf. I think that guy needs to get a new job seriously.
Apr 10, 2007 01:44am by Reach. - Peace and oneness, www.emceereach.com www.myspace.com/reach www.twitter.com/emceereach www.youtube.com/reachtv www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic2 www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic Location: Kansas City
As if Don Imus has any idea on the texture of Black hair... That comment had little to do with hair grade and everything to do with the fact that the Rutgers women athletes are almost entirely of a dark complexion while their Volunteer counterparts are much fairer-skinned (ie, the "School Daze" reference to the 'Jiggaboo - Wannabe' scene). That was terribly irresponsible and commentary like that only reinforces and further polarizes the chasm that exists between darker-skinned and fairer-skinned Black folks. That's a very real thing. Residual effects ya'll...
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[quote:4ae945bc13="Whatsgood"]Howcome when fred sanford and george jefferson had a show and said Honkey all the time people just shrugged it off?[/quote:4ae945bc13] Surely you see the difference in a sitcom and "Imus In The Morning"???
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did you hear the other guy in the background say "Dangerous Ho's"?
Apr 10, 2007 01:47am by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing www.dipity.com/acefadal WE ARE, Kansas City is [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]! http://crushproofstudio.bandcamp.com/ Location: Downtown, Kansas City, Mo.
[quote:eab9a82190="LouRip"][quote:eab9a82190="Lucidialect"]So, help me out. In his talk with Jessie Jackson, the concern over the statement "Nappy-headed hoes" focuses on the use of the word "nappy" rather than "hoes". Why is it bad to refer to someone as having "nappy" hair, but not to refer to a girl as a ho? I mean this seriously. I don't know this guy. I'm not trying to get into the ethics of whether the brunt of what he said was wrong or not. But, is the word "nappy" a bad word?[/quote:eab9a82190] nappy is a deragotory term towards black hair. So when he used the term "nappy-headed" , he already implied that the statment was being made towards black players on the team in a deragatory manner... calling them hoe's only compounded the issues.... so naturally, the next issue would be, how far would this have went if would have refered to them as simply nappy-headed? ...the answer...the same...... again this is a [u:eab9a82190]deragatory[/u:eab9a82190] term used towards black people in general, male or female. Wheter he was aware of this matter prior to saying it is debatable. Im gonna assume that he did given the fact he chose to go address his side of it on Al Shartpton's radio show & not at a Womens Rights convention. Women in general could easily be offended by him using the word ho, however he is apologizing to the people in which his comments where intened towards & thats was clearly the black females on that team....[/quote:eab9a82190] [color=orange:eab9a82190]because This is what most people like that, think of.......when they think of nappy. [/color:eab9a82190][img:eab9a82190]http://www.barzey.com/archives/pictures/nappyhair.JPG[/img:eab9a82190] [img:eab9a82190]http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/raceistheplace/images/home_beware.jpg[/img:eab9a82190] [img:eab9a82190]http://going-natural.com/thebook/img/mir-auth.gif[/img:eab9a82190] [img:eab9a82190]http://suzar.com/BOTW/1botw-pics/1hisDredlocks.jpg[/img:eab9a82190] but.... [img:eab9a82190]http://www.nappyhairaffair.com/images/nappyhappy.jpg[/img:eab9a82190][url]http://public.fotki.com/NappyDiva7/me/2004_0506image0007.html[/url] adding hoe is just the icing and makes it sexist, which can desensitize men, White men who are sexist and/or pretending to be "down" with the "culture" and black men who are sexist and/or playing that "uncle tom" role. This in turn almost makes his statement valid to jocks, rednecks, and middle class "corporate" male figures, again, black or white, who feel superior towards women and minorities. which lead them to play a buddy-buddy role when this topic is discussed and in turn. continue to perpetuate these ingnorances without understanding why it is wrong. because it becomes "just a joke" Im glad you asked "c'mon man lighten up home slice...gee willikers.... fukin A dude, gag me with a spoon.....yo."
Apr 10, 2007 01:53am by Reach. - Peace and oneness, www.emceereach.com www.myspace.com/reach www.twitter.com/emceereach www.youtube.com/reachtv www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic2 www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic Location: Kansas City
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Apr 10, 2007 01:56am by LouRip - "Im not supposed to be here, Im just not!!" www.myspace.com/louisrip www.myspace.com/bluezbrothaz www.myspace.com/soulservers www.myspace.com/ukuepto soulservers/bluezbrothaz/big me,bigger us/d-list wreckordz
[quote:501e592ab7="Lucidialect"]So, help me out. In his talk with Jessie Jackson, the concern over the statement "Nappy-headed hoes" focuses on the use of the word "nappy" rather than "hoes". Why is it bad to refer to someone as having "nappy" hair, but not to refer to a girl as a ho? I mean this seriously. I don't know this guy. I'm not trying to get into the ethics of whether the brunt of what he said was wrong or not. But, is the word "nappy" a bad word?[/quote:501e592ab7] nappy is a deragotory term towards black hair. So when he used the term "nappy-headed" , he already implied that the statment was being made towards black players on the team in a deragatory manner... calling them hoe's only compounded the issues.... so naturally, the next issue would be, how far would this have went if would have refered to them as simply nappy-headed? ...the answer...the same...... again this is a [u:501e592ab7]deragatory[/u:501e592ab7] term used towards black people in general, male or female. Wheter he was aware of this matter prior to saying it is debatable. Im gonna assume that he did given the fact he chose to go address his side of it on Al Shartpton's radio show & not at a Womens Rights convention. Women in general could easily be offended by him using the word ho, however he is apologizing to the people in which his comments where intened towards & thats was clearly the black females on that team....
Apr 10, 2007 02:05am by Whatsgood
[quote:fc61d3857a="Reach."][quote:fc61d3857a="Whatsgood"]Howcome when fred sanford and george jefferson had a show and said Honkey all the time people just shrugged it off?[/quote:fc61d3857a] Surely you see the difference in a sitcom and "Imus In The Morning"???[/quote:fc61d3857a] I do but howcome the word Honkey was used? Coud you do a sitcom and have white people use the N word? Highly dobutful. How bout Larry Johnsons comments? He plays better under a black coach or even what he said in the pitch about how theres not enough black people? Louis Farrahkens comments about Jews hardly get noticed but Mel Gibsons get made into a huge deal? While 2 wrongs dont make either all racisim should be acknowledge or none at all.
Apr 10, 2007 02:14am by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing www.dipity.com/acefadal WE ARE, Kansas City is [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]! http://crushproofstudio.bandcamp.com/ Location: Downtown, Kansas City, Mo.
400 years of oppression makes it un ok.your history book that says Colombus discovered America. And failing to mention the eradication of the American Indian... makes it wrong. the very act of your ass asking this ? or trying to put this shit in the same bull shit ass category..... blatant ignorance. Dont be a fucking idiot. know the differnce between bending and breaking son! It aint funny. its wrong, simple. Archie Bunker was proving a point about people who acted that way. You got it all twisted son. Mel Gibson was speaking facts, so was Farrakahn. this motherfucker said some shit out of line. way out of line. People like you are the reason he should be fired....so you can understand how serious this is. This aint the Jeffersons the '80s this aint Sanford and Son '70s this is real Llife boy. get it straight...reparations bitch! pay me, pay him, pay somebody...but he gotta pay!
Apr 10, 2007 02:18am by Whatsgood
[quote:fdfe0397f7="AceFadal"]400 years of oppression makes it un ok.your history book that says Colombus discovered America. And failing to mention the eradication of the American Indian... makes it wrong. the very act of your ass asking this ? or trying to put this shit in the same bull shit ass category..... blatant ignorance. Dont be a fucking idiot. know the differnce between bending and breaking son! It aint funny. its wrong, simple. Archie Bunker was proving a point about people who acted that way. You got it all twisted son. Mel Gibson was speaking facts, so was Farrakahn. this motherfucker said some shit out of line. way out of line. People like you are the reason he should be fired....so you can understand how serious this is. This aint the Jeffersons the '80s this aint Sanford and Son '70s this is real Llife boy. get it straight...reprarations bitch! pay me, pay him, pay somebody...but he gotta pay![/quote:fdfe0397f7] People like me are the reason he sohuld be fired? How bout the Creators of South Park? They've certainly taken things way further than IMUS ever has. So you roll with the double standard? Call it both ways. I'd like my reprerations from the Brittish who slaughtered my Irish ancestors. The Chineese should get the same from the Japaneese. Are the African Americans also gonna demand it from the Arabs who captured and sold slaves as well? All throughout history every race has been treated unfairly.
Apr 10, 2007 02:28am by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing www.dipity.com/acefadal WE ARE, Kansas City is [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]! http://crushproofstudio.bandcamp.com/ Location: Downtown, Kansas City, Mo.
again comedy.Are you aware of the channel that, that show is showed on? I get offfend when I watch Carlos Mencia, I get offended when I hear somebody say "thats gay." But when someone degrades a a whole nation of people on their nationally syndicated talk show.....Fuck that! I know what to expect from south park. When it comes on...... I turn. I've listened to Imus before. and this was unexpected and shocking. When he said Nappy he might as well said NIGGER BITCH! and its not the first time his show has caught flakkk! If you dont got it know, you will never get it! You may just have single handedly taken Hip Hop back a step. Thanks Come with something real next time. not no cartoon shit!
Apr 10, 2007 02:33am by Whatsgood
[quote:a1b7e28892="AceFadal"]again comedy.Are you aware of the channel that, that show is showed on? I get offfend when I watch Carlos Mencia, I get offended when I here somebody say thats gay. But when someone degrades a a whole nation of people on their syndicated talk show.. I know what to expect from south park. When it comes on I turn. I've listened to Imus before. and this was unexpected and shocking. When he said nappy he might as well said NIGGER BITCH! If you dont got it know, you will never get it! You may just have single handedly taken Hip Hop back a step. Thanks[/quote:a1b7e28892] Oh so if its comedy its okay to joke about.. I've taken hip-hop a step back? LOL No sir hip-hop itself has taken plenty of steps backward so much so this part of hip-hop will be looked back as self-degrading. So Answer this... When Larry Johnson says he plays better under a Black Coach that isn't crossing the Line? Or When he says Kansas City doesn't have enough black people. So Its ok for Gibson & Farrahkan to say things about jews because they were "speaking facts". So If someone says Blacks are murders and unedcuated in most be true speaking from statsical standpoint african americans have the highest murder rate and lowest test scores. I think you're deeply out of line, confused, and should probably put away your source magazine and learn some history.
Apr 10, 2007 02:38am by LouRip - "Im not supposed to be here, Im just not!!" www.myspace.com/louisrip www.myspace.com/bluezbrothaz www.myspace.com/soulservers www.myspace.com/ukuepto soulservers/bluezbrothaz/big me,bigger us/d-list wreckordz
[quote:af7952cf11="Whatsgood"][quote:af7952cf11="Reach."][quote:af7952cf11="Whatsgood"]Howcome when fred sanford and george jefferson had a show and said Honkey all the time people just shrugged it off?[/quote:af7952cf11] Surely you see the difference in a sitcom and "Imus In The Morning"???[/quote:af7952cf11] I do but howcome the word Honkey was used? Coud you do a sitcom and have white people use the N word? Highly dobutful. How bout Larry Johnsons comments? He plays better under a black coach or even what he said in the pitch about how theres not enough black people? Louis Farrahkens comments about Jews hardly get noticed but Mel Gibsons get made into a huge deal? While 2 wrongs dont make either all racisim should be acknowledge or none at all.[/quote:af7952cf11] quote="Whatsgood"][quote:af7952cf11="Reach."][quote:af7952cf11="Whatsgood"]Howcome when fred sanford and george jefferson had a show and said Honkey all the time people just shrugged it off?[/quote:af7952cf11] Surely you see the difference in a sitcom and "Imus In The Morning"???[/quote:af7952cf11] I do but howcome the word Honkey was used? Coud you do a sitcom and have white people use the N word? Highly dobutful. How bout Larry Johnsons comments? He plays better under a black coach or even what he said in the pitch about how theres not enough black people? Louis Farrahkens comments about Jews hardly get noticed but Mel Gibsons get made into a huge deal? While 2 wrongs dont make either all racisim should be acknowledge or none at all.[/quote] none of the previous examples you gave show any hint of racism or racist comments. It is alot more acceptable for the word "honky" to be used given that there are plenty of ol school country singers who used it in songs titles & to this day is NOT cut out when played on the airwaves, unlike the "N" word. I wont say that there are not instances where there is a double standard but Im sure there would have been just as much of an uproar if a Tom Joyner would have referred to Pat Summit as a dirty-haired red kneck...dontyathink?
Apr 10, 2007 02:38am by Whatsgood
"On ABC's "NBA Hangtime" this past Sunday, director Spike Lee brazenly stated his belief that Larry Bird is the most overrated basketball player of all time. He charged that Bird, a three-time NBA Champion and three-time league MVP, got the attention he did because he was a white guy, a novelty, playing ball in a sport dominated by black guys. According to Lee, as the so-called "white media" adored Bird for his work ethic and his dedication, they made it seem as though black superstars like Magic Johnson and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar didn't have to work to be great -- they were able to just roll out of bed and be excellent basketball players. "Listen to the white media and it is like nobody has ever played basketball before Larry Bird," Lee said. "[It's like] no black person ever played the game." Spike Lee said that... Rush Limbaugh said something similuar about Donovan McNabb and got fired.
Apr 10, 2007 02:40am by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing www.dipity.com/acefadal WE ARE, Kansas City is [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]! http://crushproofstudio.bandcamp.com/ Location: Downtown, Kansas City, Mo.
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Apr 10, 2007 02:41am by Whatsgood
[quote:53e4447b93="LouRip"][quote:53e4447b93="Whatsgood"][quote:53e4447b93="Reach."][quote:53e4447b93="Whatsgood"]Howcome when fred sanford and george jefferson had a show and said Honkey all the time people just shrugged it off?[/quote:53e4447b93] Surely you see the difference in a sitcom and "Imus In The Morning"???[/quote:53e4447b93] I do but howcome the word Honkey was used? Coud you do a sitcom and have white people use the N word? Highly dobutful. How bout Larry Johnsons comments? He plays better under a black coach or even what he said in the pitch about how theres not enough black people? Louis Farrahkens comments about Jews hardly get noticed but Mel Gibsons get made into a huge deal? While 2 wrongs dont make either all racisim should be acknowledge or none at all.[/quote:53e4447b93] quote="Whatsgood"][quote:53e4447b93="Reach."][quote:53e4447b93="Whatsgood"]Howcome when fred sanford and george jefferson had a show and said Honkey all the time people just shrugged it off?[/quote:53e4447b93] Surely you see the difference in a sitcom and "Imus In The Morning"???[/quote:53e4447b93] I do but howcome the word Honkey was used? Coud you do a sitcom and have white people use the N word? Highly dobutful. How bout Larry Johnsons comments? He plays better under a black coach or even what he said in the pitch about how theres not enough black people? Louis Farrahkens comments about Jews hardly get noticed but Mel Gibsons get made into a huge deal? While 2 wrongs dont make either all racisim should be acknowledge or none at all.[/quote:53e4447b93] none of the previous examples you gave show any hint of racism or racist comments. It is alot more acceptable for the word "honky" to be used given that there are plenty of ol school country singers who used it in songs titles & to this day is NOT cut out when played on the airwaves, unlike the "N" word. I wont say that there are not instances where there is a double standard but Im sure there would have been just as much of an uproar if a Tom Joyner would have referred to Pat Summit as a dirty-haired red kneck...dontyathink?[/quote] The Word honkey gets used in old songs so its acceptable so does that mean the word "Nigga" is acceptable since its used in alot of rap songs? And people get called rednecks ALL the time. What do you think conservative republicans get called by some black folk? Trust me i've heard PLENTY.
Apr 10, 2007 02:42am by LouRip - "Im not supposed to be here, Im just not!!" www.myspace.com/louisrip www.myspace.com/bluezbrothaz www.myspace.com/soulservers www.myspace.com/ukuepto soulservers/bluezbrothaz/big me,bigger us/d-list wreckordz
[quote:e2f39f15e2]Oh so if its comedy its okay to joke about.. I've taken hip-hop a step back? LOL No sir hip-hop itself has taken plenty of steps backward so much so this part of hip-hop will be looked back as self-degrading. So Answer this... When Larry Johnson says he plays better under a Black Coach that isn't crossing the Line? Or When he says Kansas City doesn't have enough black people. So Its ok for Gibson & Farrahkan to say things about jews because they were "speaking facts". So If someone says Blacks are murders and unedcuated in most be true speaking from statsical standpoint african americans have the highest murder rate and lowest test scores. I think you're deeply out of line, confused, and should probably put away your source magazine and learn some history.[/quote:e2f39f15e2] please explain where any of these shows signs of racism......
Apr 10, 2007 02:42am by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing www.dipity.com/acefadal WE ARE, Kansas City is [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]! http://crushproofstudio.bandcamp.com/ Location: Downtown, Kansas City, Mo.
Are you a Conservative Redneck Whatsgood?
Apr 10, 2007 02:43am by Whatsgood
No need to get personal Ace i'm just saying call it both ways and used plenty of "real" examples like you've asked. BTW I've always listend to rap from Ice Cube to Coolio in first grade all the way now to Joe Budden,Jay-z,Saigon ect.
Apr 10, 2007 02:45am by Whatsgood
[quote:b3fed79c7e]please explain where any of these shows signs of racism......[/quote:b3fed79c7e] If I lived in Harlem and said it doesn't have enough white people certainly thatd draw some heat. If I said I work better for my new boss because hes white and the old one was black tat'd draw some heat.
Apr 10, 2007 02:46am by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing www.dipity.com/acefadal WE ARE, Kansas City is [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]! http://crushproofstudio.bandcamp.com/ Location: Downtown, Kansas City, Mo.
SO What. Have you taken a bath with water borrowed from your neighbor. Or had to worry about having enough candles to make it through the night. What about when you was going to have hot water again for your baby. Was you living that shit? Or was you buying every fucking Hip Hop tape that came out, just so you could repeat the lyrics? [color=orange:1d7dd45430][size=24:1d7dd45430]So What!!!![/color:1d7dd45430][/size:1d7dd45430] You aint Hip Hop... Leave this forum.. You will never get it. Or understand Black people. ...just a biter!
Apr 10, 2007 02:47am by Whatsgood
[quote:1c82474c0d="AceFadal"]SO What. Have you taken a bath with water borrowed from your neighbor. Or had to worry about having enough candles to make it through the night. What about when you was going to have hot water again for your baby. Was you living that shit? Or was you buying every fucking Hip Hop tape that came out, just so you could repeat the lyrics? [color=orange:1c82474c0d][size=24:1c82474c0d]So What!!!![/color:1c82474c0d][/size:1c82474c0d][/quote:1c82474c0d] Whats your point or you just rambling ignorance?
Apr 10, 2007 02:48am by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing www.dipity.com/acefadal WE ARE, Kansas City is [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]! http://crushproofstudio.bandcamp.com/ Location: Downtown, Kansas City, Mo.
[size=24:3c8902f57d]drunk and pissed off at my so-called peeps, Like you. I should not have to explain this here. It makes me sad.[/size:3c8902f57d]
Apr 10, 2007 02:49am by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing www.dipity.com/acefadal WE ARE, Kansas City is [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]! http://crushproofstudio.bandcamp.com/ Location: Downtown, Kansas City, Mo.
i thought we had something special 🙁
Apr 10, 2007 02:52am by Whatsgood
I don't have a problem with black people, I dont hate anyone, His comments were fucked up all im asking is why isnt it called both ways? Thats all.
Apr 10, 2007 02:55am by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing www.dipity.com/acefadal WE ARE, Kansas City is [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]! http://crushproofstudio.bandcamp.com/ Location: Downtown, Kansas City, Mo.
How old are you?
Apr 10, 2007 02:56am by LouRip - "Im not supposed to be here, Im just not!!" www.myspace.com/louisrip www.myspace.com/bluezbrothaz www.myspace.com/soulservers www.myspace.com/ukuepto soulservers/bluezbrothaz/big me,bigger us/d-list wreckordz
[quote:348f23f412="Whatsgood"][quote:348f23f412="LouRip"][quote:348f23f412="Whatsgood"][quote:348f23f412="Reach."][quote:348f23f412="Whatsgood"]Howcome when fred sanford and george jefferson had a show and said Honkey all the time people just shrugged it off?[/quote:348f23f412] Surely you see the difference in a sitcom and "Imus In The Morning"???[/quote:348f23f412] I do but howcome the word Honkey was used? Coud you do a sitcom and have white people use the N word? Highly dobutful. How bout Larry Johnsons comments? He plays better under a black coach or even what he said in the pitch about how theres not enough black people? Louis Farrahkens comments about Jews hardly get noticed but Mel Gibsons get made into a huge deal? While 2 wrongs dont make either all racisim should be acknowledge or none at all.[/quote:348f23f412] quote="Whatsgood"][quote:348f23f412="Reach."][quote:348f23f412="Whatsgood"]Howcome when fred sanford and george jefferson had a show and said Honkey all the time people just shrugged it off?[/quote:348f23f412] Surely you see the difference in a sitcom and "Imus In The Morning"???[/quote:348f23f412] I do but howcome the word Honkey was used? Coud you do a sitcom and have white people use the N word? Highly dobutful. How bout Larry Johnsons comments? He plays better under a black coach or even what he said in the pitch about how theres not enough black people? Louis Farrahkens comments about Jews hardly get noticed but Mel Gibsons get made into a huge deal? While 2 wrongs dont make either all racisim should be acknowledge or none at all.[/quote:348f23f412] none of the previous examples you gave show any hint of racism or racist comments. It is alot more acceptable for the word "honky" to be used given that there are plenty of ol school country singers who used it in songs titles & to this day is NOT cut out when played on the airwaves, unlike the "N" word. I wont say that there are not instances where there is a double standard but Im sure there would have been just as much of an uproar if a Tom Joyner would have referred to Pat Summit as a dirty-haired red kneck...dontyathink?[/quote:348f23f412] The Word honkey gets used in old songs so its acceptable so does that mean the word "Nigga" is acceptable since its used in alot of rap songs? And people get called rednecks ALL the time. What do you think conservative republicans get called by some black folk? Trust me i've heard PLENTY.[/quote] It almost as if your digging for a reason to justify this mans comments. how many times have you heard the word "nigga" being used [u:348f23f412]on the radio?[/u:348f23f412] i'd would probably venture to say none. Look, nobody here is defending what you've experienced or heard a black person say deragatory to a white person, I know racism is a two-headed coin, however, we are talking about what THIS particular man, said to THIS particular race of people. Ignorance is mulit-colored & it just so happend in THIS instance, the guilty party is white..... As a human being, you cannot take accountabilty or credit for everything your particular race, religion or ethnicity does.... but i do know that when they accomplish something, you share their pride..& when they are hurt....you share their pain.... We are back @ the very essence of what this all boils down to....accountability...
Apr 10, 2007 02:56am by Whatsgood
21.. Care to explain your hateful PM message? I havent said one hateful thing.
Apr 10, 2007 03:05am by Whatsgood
[quote:06e0007abc="LouRip"][quote:06e0007abc="Whatsgood"][quote:06e0007abc="LouRip"][quote:06e0007abc="Whatsgood"][quote:06e0007abc="Reach."][quote:06e0007abc="Whatsgood"]Howcome when fred sanford and george jefferson had a show and said Honkey all the time people just shrugged it off?[/quote:06e0007abc] Surely you see the difference in a sitcom and "Imus In The Morning"???[/quote:06e0007abc] I do but howcome the word Honkey was used? Coud you do a sitcom and have white people use the N word? Highly dobutful. How bout Larry Johnsons comments? He plays better under a black coach or even what he said in the pitch about how theres not enough black people? Louis Farrahkens comments about Jews hardly get noticed but Mel Gibsons get made into a huge deal? While 2 wrongs dont make either all racisim should be acknowledge or none at all.[/quote:06e0007abc] quote="Whatsgood"][quote:06e0007abc="Reach."][quote:06e0007abc="Whatsgood"]Howcome when fred sanford and george jefferson had a show and said Honkey all the time people just shrugged it off?[/quote:06e0007abc] Surely you see the difference in a sitcom and "Imus In The Morning"???[/quote:06e0007abc] I do but howcome the word Honkey was used? Coud you do a sitcom and have white people use the N word? Highly dobutful. How bout Larry Johnsons comments? He plays better under a black coach or even what he said in the pitch about how theres not enough black people? Louis Farrahkens comments about Jews hardly get noticed but Mel Gibsons get made into a huge deal? While 2 wrongs dont make either all racisim should be acknowledge or none at all.[/quote:06e0007abc] none of the previous examples you gave show any hint of racism or racist comments. It is alot more acceptable for the word "honky" to be used given that there are plenty of ol school country singers who used it in songs titles & to this day is NOT cut out when played on the airwaves, unlike the "N" word. I wont say that there are not instances where there is a double standard but Im sure there would have been just as much of an uproar if a Tom Joyner would have referred to Pat Summit as a dirty-haired red kneck...dontyathink?[/quote:06e0007abc] The Word honkey gets used in old songs so its acceptable so does that mean the word "Nigga" is acceptable since its used in alot of rap songs? And people get called rednecks ALL the time. What do you think conservative republicans get called by some black folk? Trust me i've heard PLENTY.[/quote:06e0007abc] It almost as if your digging for a reason to justify this mans comments. how many times have you heard the word "nigga" being used [u:06e0007abc]on the radio?[/u:06e0007abc] i'd would probably venture to say none. Look, nobody here is defending what you've experienced or heard a black person say deragatory to a white person, I know racism is a two-headed coin, however, we are talking about what THIS particular man, said to THIS particular race of people. Ignorance is mulit-colored & it just so happend in THIS instance, the guilty party is white..... As a human being, you cannot take accountabilty or credit for everything your particular race, religion or ethnicity does.... but i do know that when they accomplish something, you share their pride..& when they are hurt....you share their pain.... We are back @ the very essence of what this all boils down to....accoutability...[/quote] Lou I was taking this time to ask something I've always wondered. I've already stated the guy was in the wrong for his comments but shouldn't be fired mainly because it wouldn't be just him loosing his job. Some on here have seemed to taken offense to what i've said it wasn't meant to be personal AT ALL.
Apr 10, 2007 03:05am by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing www.dipity.com/acefadal WE ARE, Kansas City is [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]! http://crushproofstudio.bandcamp.com/ Location: Downtown, Kansas City, Mo.
Your ingnorance to the things that my people have been subjected too baffle me. I am completely taken back by your lack of knowledge and respect for the things that have happened to us. and then to come on this forum and choose to downplay the whole situation. You dont understand now. So you never will. Nor do I want you to. I dont care if you do. Your fodder is somply allowing me to pass the time, while I burn new CDs. I just want you to go away and not exist. But in reality, education is what is needed. Teaching is what has to be done. sorry for the PM. I hope my apology will make you forget those nasty things I said. Just act like it never ever happened. and lets work togther......IMUSt have made a mistake..no hard feelings Right? A little skeptical? Me too! Peace..... No for real PEACE! AF
Apr 10, 2007 03:07am by LouRip - "Im not supposed to be here, Im just not!!" www.myspace.com/louisrip www.myspace.com/bluezbrothaz www.myspace.com/soulservers www.myspace.com/ukuepto soulservers/bluezbrothaz/big me,bigger us/d-list wreckordz
my hope is that all have a good night sleep....no offense taken sir....
Apr 10, 2007 03:07am by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing www.dipity.com/acefadal WE ARE, Kansas City is [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]! http://crushproofstudio.bandcamp.com/ Location: Downtown, Kansas City, Mo.
from: Dr._Daniel To: AceFadal Posted: Apr 09, 2007 - 09:58 PM Subject: Hey Nigger You are one dumbass mother fucker. Typical black guy.......uneducated, ignorant to the world you live in, and broken english one can only descibe as repulsive. You can either shut the fuck up, or let your ignorance be known to all on this board, your choice.
Apr 10, 2007 03:09am by Whatsgood
[quote:7b74ce8c95="AceFadal"]Your ingnorance to the things that my people have been subjected too baffle me. I am completely taken back by your lack of knowledge and respect for the things that have happened to us. and then to come on this forum and choose to downplay the whole situation. You dont understand now. So you never will. Nor do I want you to. I dont care if you do. Your fodder is somply allowing me to pass the time, while I burn new CDs. I just want you to go away and not exist. But in reality, education is what is needed. Teaching is what has to be done. sorry for the PM. I hope my apology will make you forget those nasty things I said. Just act like it never ever happened. and lets work togther......IMUSt have made a mistake..no hard feelings Right? A little skeptical? Me too! Peace..... No for real PEACE! AF[/quote:7b74ce8c95] My ignorance? I've acknowledge slavery and I asked you what about all the other people from the irish,chineese,japaneese, ect who have suffered because of there race.
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Its obvious that you will never understand and I am not helping this issue. I am truley and deeply sorry if I have mispoken or embarrassed anyone on this forum. It is clear to me that trying to make people understand will never be easy, and by trying to exlain...while intoxicated, only seems to worsen the situattion. Say what ever you want. Do as you please. Im done with this subject. You people always will and have for centuries done what they could to degrade any race that is not white, I give up.
Apr 10, 2007 05:23am by Lucidialect
Man. I skipped most everything written after my last post was answered. I don't really even feel like posting in this thread again, but I do want to ask a question that I feel is relevant. It actually doesn't even have too much to do with the jackass from the radio Maybe its not even a question, but I want someone's take. Lou Rip wrote [quote:e3f0003869]nappy is a deragotory term towards black hair. So when he used the term "nappy-headed" , he already implied that the statment was being made towards black players on the team in a deragatory manner... [/quote:e3f0003869] See. It's so strange. Many of my friends are black. Whatever. Many of my friends are many races. So throughout life I'm sort of like a culmination of creed, culture, traditions and language I learned from my friends. Now, I can hang out with any of these people and know the obvious "what not to say". But it seems there's so much language on the borderline of appropriate, and as we get more comfortable with each other, these words more easily slip through social radar and integrate into one's regular vocab. If I learn a word that I don't know is bad, and there's no signifiers within my social circle to distinguish it as such, then I have no way of knowing that when I say this word on a public bus that its going to be received any differently than by my friends. So, this is all to say: If words are felt to be inappropriate by us, isn't it our responsibility to not use those words ourselves? I don't think this question is fully what I'm trying to get at. But it's pretty close.
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now you have come to the place my great grandmother, grandmother, and mother were living from. no one who has ever been called a nigger with hatred hissing from the caller's lips wants to hear that word spoken by their children in jest, out of love for each other, or any other such non sense. I have spoken to my sons and their friends about this many times and their response to me was "we are choosing to reclaim this word as a term of friendship, comraderie, and togetherness mom" to which, I could only recount to them the things I have seen this word do, how it has been used to hurt, illiminate, marginalize, a entire people and that the ancestors fought for this to change for "THEM" so they would never know the full weight of OUR PEOPLE'S journey in america. at 53 years old, I am still subject to the diminishing toll this word and the hatred that accompanied it have taken on my soul. I am 4 generations removed from slavery at the hands of massa and missy and I have hate in me for the treatment and use of my people to build this country. I have confusion daily about what I "should" feel about this whole history. I pray for a labotomy daily. a chance to forget what I know. and still.... . . . . . . . .. I love, my heart loves who it loves, these questions, actions, behaviors make me feel lost. they are circular in nature. there is no way out except through. what I have learned, experienced, seen and been within hiphop culture as given me a glimmer of hope that "WE MIGHT ALL BE FREE OF THIS MADDNESS" but being free does not mean being thoughtless, careless, or ignorant to collective history. so lucid, I hear you I wish the n word would evaporate poof never to be heard by anyone again. I wish my sons and their friends would not use it. I wish no one would use it, but I live in the real world so i know it will continue to be used and continue to be a source of discussions like this one that are circular with no chance of ending. I want to be free from my racist feelings, they are my personal prison and hell. they depress me and cause me to not trust my heart how about you lucid? what do these combined histories create in you peace necia renee gamby ps. sometimes these convos are better in person. it is easy to misinterpret each other with only words to go on. second what I wrote is how I feel I am not suggesting anyone should be or do anything except who or what they feel. this shit may never end, I am facing within myself. again do you I am doin me
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[quote:3587fb581b="NRG"]I want to be free from my racist feelings, they are my personal prison and hell. they depress me and cause me to not trust my heart[/quote:3587fb581b] Amen, let peace be your leader and ignorance be it's own death. Only a fool puts his hand in the fire twice and boasts that it only hurt once.
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Racial insensitivity is wrong. Across the board. Whether it comes from Don Imus, Spike Lee, or Larry Johnson. I'm troubled that you're going to such lengths to defend Don Imus though WG... It seems almost like you're trying to justify his actions with the bigotry others have put on display... It's wrong... Period. But America doesn't care, really... He was slapped on the wrist. He'll go back to his show in 2 weeks... MSNBC doesn't give two shits about the millions of Black folk he offended when he made those hateful remarks. Hell, they've been complicit on the matter all along...through every other hateful remark he's ever made...
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[quote:8da27d00e4="Whatsgood"] I do but howcome the word Honkey was used? Coud you do a sitcom and have white people use the N word?[/quote:8da27d00e4] Sure you could. Carroll O'Connor did. [quote:8da27d00e4]How bout Larry Johnsons comments? He plays better under a black coach or even what he said in the pitch about how theres not enough black people?[/quote:8da27d00e4] Larry Johnson is an idiot and perhaps a closet racist himself. I'm not an apologist for ANYONE who puts racial insensitivity on display. Now... With that said... Why are you still trying so hard to defend Imus?
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[quote="Lucidialect"]So, this is all to say: If words are felt to be inappropriate by us, isn't it our responsibility to not use those words ourselves? accountability is what this all boils down to, for all of us.......indeed...
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[quote:28020efd33="AceFadal"]from: Dr._Daniel To: AceFadal Posted: Apr 09, 2007 - 09:58 PM Subject: Hey Nigger You are one dumbass mother fucker. Typical black guy.......uneducated, ignorant to the world you live in, and broken english one can only descibe as repulsive. You can either shut the fuck up, or let your ignorance be known to all on this board, your choice.[/quote:28020efd33] DAAAAMNN!! Dr._Daniel couldn't be a cover for WHATSGOOD could it? No bipolarisms on the board! Freakin' coward. A moderator is gonna block this MF from the forums right?
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Let's keep the speculations down. I think this forum has run its course. It's a potential powderkeg so... I'm gonna lock this one...
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[quote="DJSKEME"][quote:e5c8b5829e="AceFadal"]from: Dr._Daniel DAAAAMNN!! Dr._Daniel couldn't be a cover for WHATSGOOD could it? No bipolarisms on the board! Freakin' coward. A moderator is gonna block this MF from the forums right?[/quote:e5c8b5829e] Skeme not the same people period. name callin insighting hotheads knee jerk reactions ignorance bigotry, this thread has it all for everyone: stick to speaking in the first person about how you feel, think, etc stay off erbody else. the moderators have this thread covered trust. but closing it down really is NOT the answer. this is a really big issue and it deserves a really big debate and if we commit ourselves to stick to the subject : Imus's comments, our reactions, this country, state, and local attitudes, ignorance on both sides of this issue, the lack of repercussion for racist behavior and in general the lack of ACCOUNTABILITY IN AMERICA TOP TO BOTTOM CURRENTLY AND so on we can find OUR way through this conversation back to a place of balance DON'T GIVE UP nrg
Apr 10, 2007 05:27pm by Lucidialect
Necia. To answer your question: "Color" is such a strange distinction between people. Right? On one hand, my race committed genocidal murders to claim this land. As well, my race enslaved Africans to as a means to progress industry. And yet. My family, as far as I've researched, never owned slaves. And we didn't come here until well after the native Americans were killed. But this doesn't really matter. Regardless, I feel tied to the history of my people. This inspires in me humility. I can't really understand it all. The only thing I understand is that people are flawed, and that someone's always on top and someone's always on bottom. And some people I never knew did some really foul shit to some other people I never knew. And we all inherit that and are challenged by it. So what I have is the challenge to do my best to see equality with and live in that image. Simple humility.
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[size=18:cfa4e153e0][b:cfa4e153e0]TODAY IN THE KC STAR[/b:cfa4e153e0][/size:cfa4e153e0] this is just one more example of a pervasive yet underground sentiment in the entire country. the authors email address is included if you wish to state your views directly Everything that is hidden MUST COME INTO THE LIGHT FOR A REAL CHANGE TO TAKE PLACE. COMMENTARY SHAUNTAY L. HENDERSON â€˜Girl in the Newsâ€™ defies our expectations By RHONDA CHRISS LOKEMAN Columnist Smiling like a jailhouse jackanapes, one of Kansas Cityâ€™s crazy little women holds up her handcuffed wrists and mugs for the cameras. At her arraignment on a murder charge, â€œGirl in the Newsâ€ was not as she appeared during her arrest, which followed an uneventful surrender when police surprised her at a friendâ€™s Northland apartment. The cops said she was afraid that they would kill her and took her time talking to them from behind a locked door. Fear of mortality seems an odd reaction for an accused killer and female leader of a violent gang. But even the atheist cries out to God when she thinks her number is up. Even the misogynist calls for his mommy when cornered. Yet, it wasnâ€™t expected of Shauntay L. Henderson, baby-faced and fresh to the FBIâ€™s Most Wanted List. On her pimped-out MySpace site, Girl in the News, as she calls herself, is pictured in a hooded jacket. She holds what looks like a joint. Itâ€™s a rebellious, street-tough gesture. She calls herself one â€œBad (expletive deleted),â€ which sort of rhymes with Comcast witch. Another photo shows her looking girly while on the phone in an immaculate kitchen. It is a sign of the times that those violently predisposed are taking advantage of the information superhighway. Al-Qaida terrorists use the Internet to publicize their misdeeds and amass support. So do made-in-America thugs who terrorize neighborhoods and seek to promote their exploits through Brave New World technology. Girl gets lots of attention because itâ€™s considered rare to have a female head of a male-dominated gang. It isnâ€™t often that a girl goes from 12th Street and Vine to Americaâ€™s Most Wanted. Girl in the News likes publicity. So did Bonnie Parker, who would assume a sultry pose for photos taken between armed bank robberies. She and her partner, Clyde Barrow, used newspapers to shove their crimes in the faces of sheriffs. On Girlâ€™s MySpace site, thereâ€™s a message likening her and a partner to â€œBonnie and Claude.â€ (Gangstas emphasize shooting skills, not spelling.) Actually, publicity surrounding crimes is where any similarity between Bonnie and Girl ends. Bonnie was a gun-toting hillbilly who celebrated her crimes. Girl wants to be presumed innocent until found guilty. There could be more Hottentot Venus than hick to this story. Except Girl will be studied behind bars, not behind the walls of a museum. Police thought Girl might have shaved her head to avoid recognition. Not so. When arrested, her hair looked freshly done, folks said. She wasnâ€™t trying to disguise herself. In no hurry to escape, she made a grooming pit stop. By the time of her arraignment, the hair was taken down. At the jail, they take away hairpins, weave tracks and braids. So when Girl mugged for the cameras, shouting to reporters, â€œIâ€™m innocent, man, Iâ€™m innocent,â€ she looked like any other nappy-headed inmate processed through Jackson County corrections. Girl is accused of gunning down DeAndre Parker, 20, on Sept. 2, while he sat in a truck with his girlfriend. Girl is charged with second-degree murder and armed criminal action related to gang-banging. Weighty charges for a girl about the size of Jada Pinkett Smith. The interest expressed here isnâ€™t laudatory; it is anthropological. Girl is studied through the lens of Margaret Mead who said, â€œOne of the oldest human needs is having someone to wonder where you are when you donâ€™t come home at night.â€ People are born. Killers and other monsters are made. â€œOur humanity rests upon a series of learned behaviors, woven together into patterns that are infinitely fragile and never directly inherited,â€ Mead also said. Proof can be found along 31st Street, Prospect Avenue, 51st Street, along 12th Street and Vine and other mean streets across the country. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- More columns Rhonda Chriss Lokeman is a nationally syndicated columnist for Creators Syndicate. You can view her Creators column on national affairs Sundays on The Starâ€™s Web site, Kansascity.com. Today she writes on the Smithsonian scandal. Her Star column emphasizes more local and bistate issues and appears in this space. To reach Rhonda Chriss Lokeman, call (816) 234-4475 or send e-mail to [email protected].
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[size=18:b34a812009][b:b34a812009]Today the Coach of The Team Responds[/b:b34a812009][/size:b34a812009] Rutgers coach: Imusâ€™ comments â€˜despicableâ€™ Players to meet with radio host, hope to â€˜get something accomplishedâ€™ The Associated Press Updated: 12:20 p.m. CT April 10, 2007 PISCATAWAY, N.J - The Rutgers womenâ€™s basketball team will meet with embattled radio host Don Imus, and their coach on Tuesday called his comments â€œracist and sexist remarks that are deplorable, despicable and unconscionable.â€ Players stopped short of saying whether they thought Imus should be fired. Effective Monday, Imus has been suspended for two weeks for calling the Rutgers female basketball players â€œnappy-headed hos.â€ â€œWe all agreed the meeting with Mr. Imus will help,â€ Essence Carson, a member of the team that lost the NCAA womenâ€™s championship game to Tennessee last week, said. â€œWe do hope to get something accomplished during this meeting.â€ Teammate Matee Ajavon said: â€œI could say that we honestly donâ€™t know what to expect from Don Imus and what we will plan on asking him is his reasons and how you could just say things that you have not put any thought to? Right now I canâ€™t really say if we have come to a conclusion of whether we will accept the apology. What I can say I think this meeting will be crucial for us, the state of New Jersey and everybody representing us.â€ Head coach C. Vivian Stringer said her players â€œare the best this nation has to offer, and we are so very fortunate to have them at Rutgers University. They are young ladies of class, distinction. They are articulate, they are gifted. They are Godâ€™s representatives in every sense of the word.â€ She said itâ€™s not about the players â€œas black or nappy-headed. Itâ€™s about us as a people. When there is not equality for all, or when there has been denied equality for one, there has been denied equality for all.â€ She further said: â€œWhile they worked hard in the classroom and accomplished so much and used their gifts and talents, you know, to bring the smiles and the pride within this state in so many people, we had to experience racist and sexist remarks that are deplorable, despicable, and abominable and unconscionable. It hurts me.â€ Imus started the firestorm after Rutgers lost championship game. He was speaking with producer Bernard McGuirk and said â€œthatâ€™s some rough girls from Rutgers. Man, they got tattoos ...â€ â€œSome hardcore hos,â€ McGuirk said. â€œThatâ€™s some nappy-headed hos there, Iâ€™m going to tell you that,â€ Imus said. Imusâ€™ comments about the Rutgers players struck a chord, in part, because it was aimed at a group of young women enjoying athletic success. It also came in a different public atmosphere following the Michael Richards and Mel Gibson incidents, said Eric Deggans, columnist for the St. Petersburg Times and chairman of the media monitoring committee of the National Association of Black Journalists. The NABJâ€™s governing board, which doesnâ€™t include Deggans, wants Imus canned. â€œWhat I did was make a stupid, idiotic mistake in a comedy context,â€ Imus said on his show Tuesday morning, the final week before his suspension starts. Asked by â€œTODAYâ€ host Matt Lauer if he could clean up his act as he promised on Monday, he said, â€œWell, perhaps I canâ€™t.â€ But he added, â€œI have a history of keeping my word.â€ Of the two-week suspension by MSNBC and CBS Radio, he said: â€œI think itâ€™s appropriate, and I am going to try to serve it with some dignity.â€ The Rev. Al Sharpton also appeared on â€œTODAYâ€ and called the suspension â€œnot nearly enough. I think it is too little, too late.â€ He said presidential candidates and other politicians should refrain from going on Imusâ€™ show in the future. Comic Bill Maher, CBS News political analyst Jeff Greenfield and former Carter administration official Hamilton Jordan all appeared on Imusâ€™ show Tuesday. Imus, who appeared on Sharptonâ€™s syndicated radio program for two hours Monday, accused the minister of lacking courage for refusing an invitation to appear on â€œImus in the Morning.â€ Sharpton said he couldnâ€™t tell people not to watch the show and then appear on it. â€œItâ€™s not about courage,â€ he said. MSNBC, which telecasts the radio show, said Imusâ€™ expressions of regret and embarrassment, coupled with his stated dedication to changing the showâ€™s discourse, made it believe suspension was the appropriate response. (MSNBC.com is a joint venture of Microsoft and NBC Universal. NBC TV is wholly owned by NBC Universal.) â€œOur future relationship with Imus is contingent on his ability to live up to his word,â€ the network said late Monday. Imus, who has made a career of cranky insults in the morning, was fighting for his job following the joke that by his own admission went â€œway too far.â€ He continued through the day Monday, both on his show and Sharptonâ€™s. The Rev. Jesse Jackson, who marched with about 50 protesters Monday outside NBC offices in Chicago, said Imusâ€™ suspensions will not halt the protests. â€œThis is a two-week cooling off period,â€ Jackson said. â€œIt does not challenge the character of the show, its political impact, or the impact that these comments have had on our society.â€ Imus could be in real danger if the outcry causes advertisers to shy away from him, said Tom Taylor, editor of the trade publication Inside Radio. The National Organization for Women is also seeking Imusâ€™ ouster. Imus isnâ€™t the most popular radio talk-show host â€” the trade publication Talkers ranks him the 14th-most influential â€” but his audience is heavy on the political and media elite that advertisers pay a premium to reach. Authors, journalists and politicians are frequent guests â€” and targets for insults. He has urged critics to recognize that his show is a comedy that spreads insults broadly. Imus or his cast have called Colin Powell a â€œweasel,â€ New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson a â€œfat sissyâ€ and referred to Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell of Colorado, an American Indian, as â€œthe guy from â€˜F Troop.â€â€™ He and his colleagues also called the New York Knicks a group of â€œchest-thumping pimps.â€ On his show Monday, Imus called himself â€œa good personâ€ who made a bad mistake. â€œHereâ€™s what Iâ€™ve learned: that you canâ€™t make fun of everybody, because some people donâ€™t deserve it,â€ he said. â€œAnd because the climate on this program has been what itâ€™s been for 30 years doesnâ€™t mean that it has to be that way for the next five years or whatever because that has to change, and I understand that.â€ Baseball star Cal Ripken Jr., who was to appear on Imusâ€™ show Tuesday to discuss a new book, canceled the appearance. â€œHe didnâ€™t want anyone getting the message that he agreed in any way, shape or form with the comments,â€ said John Maroon, Ripkenâ€™s publicist. â€œIt was the right thing to do.â€ â€œTODAYâ€ co-host Al Roker said Tuesday on his showâ€™s official blog that it was time for Imus to go. â€œI, for one, am really tired of the diatribes, the â€˜humorâ€™ at othersâ€™ expense, the cruelty that passes for â€˜funny,â€â€™ Roker said. Even Howard Stern of Sirius Satellite Radio, a big fan of unrestricted content, mocked Imusâ€™ apology, according to the New York Daily News. â€œHeâ€™s apologizing like a guy who got his first broadcasting job,â€ Stern said. â€œHe should have said, â€˜(expletive) you, itâ€™s a joke.â€â€™ Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain, whose presidential candidacy has been backed by Imus on the air, said he would still appear on Imusâ€™ program. â€œHe has apologized,â€ McCain said. â€œHe said that he is deeply sorry. Iâ€™m a great believer in redemption.â€ Imusâ€™ radio show originates from WFAN in New York City and is syndicated nationally by Westwood One, both managed by CBS. The show reached an estimated 361,000 viewers on MSNBC in the first three months of the year, up 39 percent from last year. Thatâ€™s the best competitive position it has ever achieved against CNN (372,000 viewers). Imusâ€™ fate could ultimately rest with two of the nationâ€™s most prominent media executives: CBS Corp. chief Leslie Moonves and Jeff Zucker, head of NBC Universal. â€œHe will survive it if he stops apologizing so much,â€ said Michael Harrison, publisher of Talkers. Imus clearly seems under corporate pressure to make amends, but heâ€™s nearly reached the point where he is alienating the fans who appreciate his grumpy outrageousness. Even if he were to be fired, heâ€™s likely to land elsewhere in radio, Harrison said. URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17999196/?GT1=9246
Apr 10, 2007 06:12pm by Whatsgood
[quote:5e52184af4="Reach."]Racial insensitivity is wrong. Across the board. Whether it comes from Don Imus, Spike Lee, or Larry Johnson. I'm troubled that you're going to such lengths to defend Don Imus though WG... It seems almost like you're trying to justify his actions with the bigotry others have put on display... It's wrong... Period. But America doesn't care, really... He was slapped on the wrist. He'll go back to his show in 2 weeks... MSNBC doesn't give two shits about the millions of Black folk he offended when he made those hateful remarks. Hell, they've been complicit on the matter all along...through every other hateful remark he's ever made...[/quote:5e52184af4] And this is what bothers me folks. How many times have I said what he said was wrong? Count it i've said it atleast 3 different times throughout the debate. However I was asking why isn't it called both ways? You want to see racism cracked down both ways PLEASE call it both ways this double standard in America is nothing but a bunch of BS. Howcome people on here got offended when I posed the question?
Apr 10, 2007 06:22pm by LouRip - "Im not supposed to be here, Im just not!!" www.myspace.com/louisrip www.myspace.com/bluezbrothaz www.myspace.com/soulservers www.myspace.com/ukuepto soulservers/bluezbrothaz/big me,bigger us/d-list wreckordz
If you've counted, several of us on here have said a few times as well, that there are instances of double standards & that none of us (me or u) can account for anything anyone else does in behalf of our race,class, gender, etnicity, ect...does.. The probelm is that this discussion has become personalized & it was never intended to do such. Simply to state the view that each individual felt regarding this situation. You stating that it was wrong does not excuse what wrong Imus has done. You are not entitled in anyway to defend him nor speak on Imus's behalf nor am I entitled to defend or speak on Larry Johnson or Spike Lee's behalf. We've acknowledged that there is a double standard but @ this (again) falls into accountabilty....theres no other way to state it...
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Don Imus still doesn't understand the gravity of his actions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5JdJnltdRg He's an idiot and should be removed immediately from MSNBC, but they don't give a damn about the millions of Black folk who were offended by the latest action in his bigotry on display.
Apr 10, 2007 06:28pm by Whatsgood
[quote:edc1db8bf9="LouRip"]If you've counted, several of us on here have said a few times as well, that there are instances of double standards & that none of us (me or u) can account for anything anyone else does in behalf of our race,class, gender, etnicity, ect...does.. The probelm is that this discussion has become personalized & it was never intended to do such. Simply to state the view that each individual felt regarding this situation. You stating that it was wrong does not excuse what wrong Imus has done. You are not entitled in anyway to defend him nor speak on Imus's behalf nor am I entitled to defend or speak on Larry Johnson or Spike Lee's behalf. We've acknowledged that there is a double standard but @ this (again) falls into accountabilty....theres no other way to state it...[/quote:edc1db8bf9] Well I've apologized if anyone took what I said personally but then agin I don't know why you would I don't see where i'm out of line at all. I took this story and tried to look at the bigger picture because lets be honest this happens about 4-5 times a year everyone complains for a few days and it goes away. The thing that baffles me is why am I accused of making a fake name and using racial slurs at a person? That actually angers me.
Apr 10, 2007 06:32pm by LouRip - "Im not supposed to be here, Im just not!!" www.myspace.com/louisrip www.myspace.com/bluezbrothaz www.myspace.com/soulservers www.myspace.com/ukuepto soulservers/bluezbrothaz/big me,bigger us/d-list wreckordz
not sure who you are speaking about,Whats good, I have not tried to offend you & have not been offended by anything you've said. The dialogue between us has been very insightful, I believe.... but the particular person(s) you are addressing should probably be done through a private message tho.....not on this thread...
Apr 10, 2007 06:35pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness, www.emceereach.com www.myspace.com/reach www.twitter.com/emceereach www.youtube.com/reachtv www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic2 www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic Location: Kansas City
[quote:8f7e2c05d9="Whatsgood"] And this is what bothers me folks. How many times have I said what he said was wrong? Count it i've said it atleast 3 different times throughout the debate. However I was asking why isn't it called both ways?[/quote:8f7e2c05d9] And I'm going to have to ask you to stay on topic. You're tapdancing now... There a plethora of related topics that can be discussed within the context of this discussion, but this is about Don Imus and his insensitivity towards the Rutgers' Women's Basketball Team. [quote:8f7e2c05d9]You want to see racism cracked down both ways PLEASE call it both ways this double standard in America is nothing but a bunch of BS. Howcome people on here got offended when I posed the question?[/quote:8f7e2c05d9] I'm not offended... Cause frankly I knew MSNBC wouldn't can Imus. I knew people would rush to defend him. I knew they'd tapdance and talk about other incidences of racism in this country and allege that somehow Blacks have free "racist" reign. Cause truth is... Few people want to believe that we haven't made as much progress in this country as their little hearts will have them believe... FOR THE RECORD... Don Imus, HIMSELF, said that the usage of disparaging terminology from within the Black community DOES NOT EXCUSE his own mistake. So we can throw that out... And if that isn't enough... ALL BLACKS are not complicit in the usage of verbiage that disparages their own... So we can get off that stuff about how we're somehow licensing others to join in on verbally abusive behavior.
Apr 10, 2007 07:27pm by NRG - livin the art that is life ! www.64111clinic.com fam www.nrginmotion.com massage www.myspace.com/nrginmotion world community Location: havenhouse KCK/ 64111 Clinic 4 Life
[quote:9e64048675]="Whatsgood The thing that baffles me is why am I accused of making a fake name and using racial slurs at a person? That actually angers me.[/quote:9e64048675] speaking from a large perspective here, it is in the realm of reality that during internet beef a person could and would switch names to continue down a path of racial slurs. I have plainly said you did not do this. believe me when I say I have checked behind the scenes to make sure every one involved is speaking from their own self. the point is to keep going anger and all. find your way through those feeling back to a level place. this method is our best chance to not only learn from each other, but to grow from the information we get. as you stated to me you asked the questions innocently hoping to gain insights into this issue. answers are being given by all involved which means WE are ALL making headway into a new place of understanding. that is the intention you stated FOR YOURSELF at the on set of this conversation. again keep going until you regain your balance and retain the new information as a way to expand yourself your perspective, your understanding, and sensitivities. this is DOABLE whatsgood. its doable for ALL of us if we do not GO AWAY from the conversation, stop listening to each other and gaining insights from each other
Apr 10, 2007 07:36pm by NRG - livin the art that is life ! www.64111clinic.com fam www.nrginmotion.com massage www.myspace.com/nrginmotion world community Location: havenhouse KCK/ 64111 Clinic 4 Life
[quote:53e4c07d17="Lucidialect"]Necia. To answer your question: "Color" is such a strange distinction between people. Right? On one hand, my race committed genocidal murders to claim this land. As well, my race enslaved Africans to as a means to progress industry. And yet. My family, as far as I've researched, never owned slaves. And we didn't come here until well after the native Americans were killed. But this doesn't really matter. Regardless, I feel tied to the history of my people. This inspires in me humility. I can't really understand it all. The only thing I understand is that people are flawed, and that someone's always on top and someone's always on bottom. And some people I never knew did some really foul shit to some other people I never knew. And we all inherit that and are challenged by it. So what I have is the challenge to do my best to see equality with and live in that image. Simple humility.[/quote:53e4c07d17] Yes lucid. this is where I am at with this also. personally I believe, this is where we come to when we accept the flawness and accountabilty of being human. if we remain simple and honest in our dialogue with each other, leave all rhetoric out of our person communications, then we are two people talking to each other from an open place, deciding how we will interact void of larger agendas from folks we don't know and who don't know us. to me simple open honest talk is our best hope. speaking directly from the first person position, has power and always will. thanks for you candor i join you in that attemp to keep it simple and humble. necia
Apr 10, 2007 07:50pm by DJSKEME Location: Grandview, MO
[quote:c1618ac8b1="Whatsgood"][quote:c1618ac8b1="LouRip"]If you've counted, several of us on here have said a few times as well, that there are instances of double standards & that none of us (me or u) can account for anything anyone else does in behalf of our race,class, gender, etnicity, ect...does.. The probelm is that this discussion has become personalized & it was never intended to do such. Simply to state the view that each individual felt regarding this situation. You stating that it was wrong does not excuse what wrong Imus has done. You are not entitled in anyway to defend him nor speak on Imus's behalf nor am I entitled to defend or speak on Larry Johnson or Spike Lee's behalf. We've acknowledged that there is a double standard but @ this (again) falls into accountabilty....theres no other way to state it...[/quote:c1618ac8b1] Well I've apologized if anyone took what I said personally but then agin I don't know why you would I don't see where i'm out of line at all. I took this story and tried to look at the bigger picture because lets be honest this happens about 4-5 times a year everyone complains for a few days and it goes away. The thing that baffles me is why am I accused of making a fake name and using racial slurs at a person? That actually angers me.[/quote:c1618ac8b1] Ok, since it's obvious [size=18:c1618ac8b1][b:c1618ac8b1]I[/b:c1618ac8b1] [/size:c1618ac8b1]am the one that made the statement that was confused as an accusation, I should clarify. I was partially in jest making a statement about your stance on the situation. It's obvious that you aren't Dr.. whomever. I'm simply trying to say that their is damn near a [b:c1618ac8b1]parallel[/b:c1618ac8b1]. On [color=red:c1618ac8b1]one hand[/color:c1618ac8b1], how can one empathize with what us as black feel is an injustice and then on the [color=red:c1618ac8b1]other hand [/color:c1618ac8b1]defend a guy, who is in my opinion a genius, not an idiot, who made a slur and the media outlet that employs him?? It's what many African American friends of mine feel is across the board bi-polarism. Many whites feel one way and put on the [color=red:c1618ac8b1]"blackface"[/color:c1618ac8b1] when they are around blacks or those that they may offend with their true identity. I think that's the real issue. Imus is a [b:c1618ac8b1]genius [/b:c1618ac8b1]for all this controversy he brought up with those remarks. He knows who has his back on it. Powerful whites. He's getting more ratings then ever. That is the point of "shock" on these shows. Him and his colleagues simply portrayed what the real [b:c1618ac8b1]"locker room" [/b:c1618ac8b1]conversation is about.
Apr 10, 2007 08:26pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness, www.emceereach.com www.myspace.com/reach www.twitter.com/emceereach www.youtube.com/reachtv www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic2 www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic Location: Kansas City
I wouldn't exactly call that genius because it's been done time and again. But I get what you're saying... He's still an idiot. Anyone with a career as long as Imus' doesn't have to resort to such toilet tactics to drive ratings... He's celebrated as one of the greatest of all time... Why stoop so low?
Apr 10, 2007 08:36pm by NRG - livin the art that is life ! www.64111clinic.com fam www.nrginmotion.com massage www.myspace.com/nrginmotion world community Location: havenhouse KCK/ 64111 Clinic 4 Life
[quote:f37587c448]="DJSKEME"] . Ok, since it's obvious [size=18:f37587c448][b:f37587c448]I[/b:f37587c448] [/size:f37587c448]am the one that made the statement that was confused as an accusation, I should clarify. I was partially in jest making a statement about your stance on the situation. It's obvious that you aren't Dr.. whomever. I'm simply trying to say that their is damn near a [b:f37587c448]parallel[/b:f37587c448]. On [color=red:f37587c448]one hand[/color:f37587c448], how can one empathize with what us as black feel is an injustice and then on the [color=red:f37587c448]other hand [/color:f37587c448]defend a guy, who is in my opinion a genius, not an idiot, who made a slur and the media outlet that employs him??[/quote:f37587c448] Tim, By now WE all are capable of being of 2 behaviors or more when it comes to racial issues. we are intergrated in our daily dealings and have to wear several faces to make a living, raise a family, have friends, on and on. I watch black people distance themselves for that which they personally find offensive in other black people and I often hear white people refer to those of lessor means as poor white trash or trailer park trash. so this is not a phenomenon. its call life in the 21st century. [quote:f37587c448]It's what many African American friends of mine feel is across the board bi-polarism. Many whites feel one way and put on the [color=red:f37587c448]"blackface"[/color:f37587c448] when they are around blacks or those that they may offend with their true identity. [/quote:f37587c448] And black people don't. black people have had to accomodate the dominant culture since we were brought here. and now with political correctness abounding, everyone is confused about what's ok. where are the lines? what can I say and not say based on who is in the room? this is not a new thing man. [quote:f37587c448]I think that's the real issue. Imus is a [b:f37587c448]genius [/b:f37587c448]for all this controversy he brought up with those remarks. He knows who has his back on it. Powerful whites. He's getting more ratings then ever. That is the point of "shock" on these shows. Him and his colleagues simply portrayed what the real [b:f37587c448]"locker room" [/b:f37587c448]conversation is about.[/quote:f37587c448] And he has black people everywhere angry, not without reason. He also so is using the airwaves to reflect a popular sentiment of a people who are rapidly loosing their hold on this country what with immigration, open borders, elitism, and financial classism. But what is really being shown here is that we can be distracted from the iraq occupation and other shadowy dealing of the real government the few who hold ALL THE WEALTH, the stake holders of america. we do not ask questions of them, instead we go at each other not thinking that we are ALL being played distracted from the LARGER WORLDWIDE issues of accountabilty as the middle class [america's true asset and innovation] quietly disappears and becomes exstinct before our eyes. now am I saying that racial slurs should be forgiven, no i am not, i am saying that race issues have been used divide america and many other countries for centuries. This occurance in america was very strategic in its timing if you trace when it was re introduced into our national mythos look at how hitler came to gain so much power he didn't have to take it the people supported it because he gave them someone to blame for their demise instead of the failing government practices for their poverty and lack of upward mobility. sound familar? understand, this is a tool used to divide, subdue, direct, stimulate the masses.
Apr 10, 2007 09:18pm by DJSKEME Location: Grandview, MO
[quote:d00e424e7d="NRG"]Tim, By now WE all are capable of being of 2 behaviors or more when it comes to racial issues. we are intergrated in our daily dealings and have to wear several faces to make a living, raise a family, have friends, on and on. I watch black people distance themselves for that which they personally find offensive in other black people and I often hear white people refer to those of lessor means as poor white trash or trailer park trash. so this is not a phenomenon. its call life in the 21st century.[/quote:d00e424e7d] Of course we all are like that, but just because we all have different mannerisms in our lives doesn't justify putting up a front. Different mannerisms does not = to portraying being 1 type of person, and being another in another environment with contrary beliefs. If you're a Republican at work, don't come home frontin' like you are a Democrat. Those people that you are referring to, from what I get in your statement, that distance themselves or demean others aren't fronting. They are really trying to avoid those types of people. They are not being cool in their face and distancing or talking mess behind others backs. And if so, I'm talking about them too. 2 faced is 2 faced. [quote:d00e424e7d]And black people don't. black people have had to accomodate the dominant culture since we were brought here. and now with political correctness abounding, everyone is confused about what's ok. where are the lines? what can I say and not say based on who is in the room? this is not a new thing man.[/quote:d00e424e7d] Of course it's not new. The difference is, political correctness is attempt to make a comfortable climate for different religions, races, and beliefs to work. As grown folk we should know what is offensive and what is not. Not FRONT like you are too ignorant to know what is and what isn't. That dude can't go under oath and say he didn't know "nappy-headed hoes" wasn't offensive. Middle school kids know that. I do feel that this may be an attempt to distract from other issues in the media such as war, but that is a stretch. Especially because all the major channels have been covering it daily around the world and it is really getting killed in the audience's view. I saw a survey.
Apr 10, 2007 09:54pm by PL - Adversity will make you either give up, or grow up. Location: Kansas City, Missouri
[quote="Whatsgood"][quote:3beba86c57="Reach."] And this is what bothers me folks. How many times have I said what he said was wrong? Count it i've said it atleast 3 different times throughout the debate. However I was asking why isn't it called both ways? You want to see racism cracked down both ways PLEASE call it both ways this double standard in America is nothing but a bunch of BS. Howcome people on here got offended when I posed the question?[/quote:3beba86c57] There are two things you have to know in order to understand the "Whys" involved: 1. Racism is [color=yellow:3beba86c57][/color:3beba86c57][size=18:3beba86c57][/size:3beba86c57]systemic[size=12:3beba86c57][/size:3beba86c57]. It is nothing more than a design to keep "The Minority" in place by depriving them/us of fiscal and personal power. Ever wondered why blacks didn't have the "Right" to vote until the 1960's? Or how that "Right" is STILL fluid (can be taken away with an act of congress). 2. History is written by the winner. Since white people won in America, that's the story we get. Slight skirmishes between them and the "savage natives," savvy/faulty land deals for next to nothing, and the best of all "FREE LABOR" from a land far away. For five centuries we've (minorities) received the short end of a rather long stick. When there is true equality, then we can call it both ways. Right now, we're playing catch-up.