Topic: Hood 2 Hood, KC.
- Aug 5, 2006 04:42am by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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*SMH*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gV-FC1aLNo
- Aug 5, 2006 05:29am by LouRip - "Im not supposed to be here, Im just not!!"
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that was shameful to watch..
- Aug 5, 2006 06:31am by phism
i watched that a while ago. did they just do a big video tour to prove that everywhere is the same?
- Aug 5, 2006 07:12am by kbarnz
AND WHAT
T.B. WATKINS Real life shit, crybaby internet geek ass dudes!
ELLA FITZ
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ALL DAY
- Aug 5, 2006 07:18am by kbarnz
I need to see some of ya'lls ghetto pass please.
Tryin' to post shit like everybody's ignorant-
that's shit's ignorant/ What? Everybody's on their high horse?
Bunch a ballerina's-
Judge Judy's
Fuck your backpack.
- Aug 5, 2006 07:29am by Atilla_Beatsmith - [email protected]
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my brother borrowed the bootleg from his friend a while ago. I was ashamed...just kept asking "why?".
...sigh...
I'm serious that video made me sad, mad man. Trust me KC wasn't the worst, but in all the cities shown, it was just so sad. Kills me how the white people "trap" you...that [i:5e521c31f6]they're[/i:5e521c31f6] the ones that are forcing you to kill each other...ughh.....but then at that same instant you're going to be [i:5e521c31f6]proud[/i:5e521c31f6] about that!?!?!
...I...I'm going to bed on that...I tired.
- Aug 5, 2006 07:41am by kbarnz
Damn crackers!! 👿 😉 8) 😆 😮 😈 👿 😈 👿
- Aug 5, 2006 07:43am by kbarnz
Let's burn down the Royale Inn!! 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😈
- Aug 5, 2006 05:20pm by Distorted_Mastermind - I reject your reality and substitute my own.
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[quote:b9266fe774="kbarnz"]Damn crackers!! 👿 😉 8) 😆 😮 😈 👿 😈 :evil:[/quote:b9266fe774]
Did you even watch it? Crackers had nothing to do with that. I've yet to see a Ritz make someone that dumb 😀
- Aug 5, 2006 05:22pm by NRG - livin the art that is life !
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[quote:6125b743e2="kbarnz"]I need to see some of ya'lls ghetto pass please.
Tryin' to post shit like everybody's ignorant-
that's shit's ignorant/ What? Everybody's on their high horse?
Bunch a ballerina's-
Judge Judy's
Fuck your backpack.[/quote:6125b743e2]
I don't think anybody is ignorant to the way things are, just sad about it.
don't think anybody is judging them per say, just a different style and we really don't wanna lose nobody to violence. if that is backpack\ballerina, then I'm the biggest backpacker/toe dancing ballerina on the planet. ie wack weak
I Know its harsh out there, but hatin on each other simply makes it harsher.
not judgements of people just the actions
I don't know any mothers who wanna invest all the time, sacrifice, love and effort, to then see their babies dying just too much to bear.
backpacer 4 life that's hiphop too!
- Aug 5, 2006 05:37pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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[quote:fb97ba9299="kbarnz"]
Tryin' to post shit like everybody's ignorant-
that's shit's ignorant/ What? Everybody's on their high horse?
Bunch a ballerina's-
Judge Judy's
Fuck your backpack.[/quote:fb97ba9299]
(Sigh)
At least you acknowledged the fact that that 8-minute clip was some of the most ignorant shit you've ever seen.
I don't know that I said that everybody's ignorant though.
Everybody includes me and quite a few other law-abiding folk.
I know for a fact that everybody isn't ignorant.
If you think this smacks of elitism then something's wrong with you.
I watched the clip and saw a bunch of grown ass men willfully indulging in such destructive behaviors. I'm not in a position to exact any judgment over them. And ain't trying to...
I just realize that that's the other half of Black folks problems.
There are forces in action that want nothing but to see us devoured, but at the same time shit like this... Only makes it worse and reinforces those at work to keep us in a certain position.
But I'll be that though.
Backpacking ballerina and all.
- Aug 5, 2006 10:24pm by D-Crew - -- D-Crew's Young Ace
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lol, That Is Literally My Neighborhood Where I Grew Up And I Know Those Cats...
Air Dough (dude with the missing finger) Was Shot In Front Of My Place...
While You Criticize These Guys For The Way They Live, The Part They Play In Raising And Encouraging Me And Those After Me Go Ignored...
When I Was Young That Was All I Was Seeing, But They Would Always Tell Me, "This Isn't The Life You Want To Live, Stay In School" And To This Day When I See Them Its Always "You In College Right?", "How Are Your Grades?"...
So On That Note PARKER SQUARE, 1200, And All That...
RIP K-Rock, House Party, Caruso, 2 High
Free Monty, Big 12
- Aug 5, 2006 10:46pm by StikFiga - "i could never be a thug, they dont dress this well"--Malice of the Clipse
every hoods the same mane.
more then anything we need to be in these communities, especially if youre from them and want to affect change. not judge how they live, no one is any better.
- Aug 5, 2006 10:53pm by StikFiga - "i could never be a thug, they dont dress this well"--Malice of the Clipse
[quote:e9ceeb43a2="D-Crew"]
When I Was Young That Was All I Was Seeing, But They Would Always Tell Me, "This Isn't The Life You Want To Live, Stay In School" And To This Day When I See Them Its Always "You In College Right?", "How Are Your Grades?"...
[/quote:e9ceeb43a2]
this i relate to.
- Aug 6, 2006 12:48am by NRG - livin the art that is life !
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DCrew do you live that lifestyle or did you decide to live a different life?
that is what this whole thing is boiling down to
decisions, choices, vision, knowledge, someone showing/guiding through helping to illuminate the options and their possible outcome.
this is what I mean when I say NO MOTher wants their child to suffer these things in life, even the guys who were living that life wanted something different for you.
there is no short answer to these complexities. its not simply condoning or dissin their lifestyle. how could it be that way
good people are flawed and flawed people have goodness with in them
- Aug 6, 2006 02:27am by Lucidialect
("Kills me how the white people "trap" you...that they're the ones that are forcing you to kill each other...ughh....")
I understand that the rich constituents that bought slaves from Africa and brought them here, and also those who engineered the projects some time after they were freed, were white. And business and corporate owners who have built our economy to keep them on top and minorities at bay and poor are also white. But shit, we're all smart people...right? 🙄 I'm saying, can't you think of a more specific characteristic pertaining to these people than their skin color? I recognize the teetered balance in opportunity between races here, but the people that fucked the system up didn't fuck it up because they are white. And there's alot of us 'white people' that aren't "trapping" black people.
How about "greedy"? How about a more personality defining characteristic than to just demonize a people based on the color of their skin, i.e. what white people did to blacks and native americans back in the day...
...we're always fighting for fair judgement, right? It goes both ways.
- Aug 6, 2006 02:53am by Atilla_Beatsmith - [email protected]
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[quote:d3895bb670="Lucidialect"]("Kills me how the white people "trap" you...that they're the ones that are forcing you to kill each other...ughh....")
I understand that the rich constituents that bought slaves from Africa and brought them here, and also those who engineered the projects some time after they were freed, were white. And business and corporate owners who have built our economy to keep them on top and minorities at bay and poor are also white. But shit, we're all smart people...right? 🙄 I'm saying, can't you think of a more specific characteristic pertaining to these people than their skin color? I recognize the teetered balance in opportunity between races here, but the people that fucked the system up didn't fuck it up because they are white. And there's alot of us 'white people' that aren't "trapping" black people.
How about "greedy"? How about a more personality defining characteristic than to just demonize a people based on the color of their skin, i.e. what white people did to blacks and native americans back in the day...
...we're always fighting for fair judgement, right? It goes both ways.[/quote:d3895bb670]
just so you know, I was being sarcastic...those were not my feelings on the subject, nor was I trying to condemn anyone else with that statement...that was merely an example of a flawed train of thought one might have. As you demonstrated in your post Lucid, the problem goes deeper. But, I do know some people personally that take on the attitude I described above, and use that as an excuse for validating certain self-destructive behavior...and in that case the problem is not perpetuated so much by the outside force that they percieve it to be, but more so by themselves. (that is not to say that the former, [i:d3895bb670]does not[/i:d3895bb670] contribute in that case.)
I'm not in anyplace to judge anyone. But the blatant bragging of violent acts I don't agree with...that's not right.
...no backpacks...I prefer messenger bags 😆
- Aug 6, 2006 02:56am by phism
[quote:96d2e5100e="NRG"]DCrew do you live that lifestyle or did you decide to live a different life?
that is what this whole thing is boiling down to
decisions, choices, vision, knowledge, someone showing/guiding through helping to illuminate the options and their possible outcome.
this is what I mean when I say NO MOTher wants their child to suffer these things in life, even the guys who were living that life wanted something different for you.
there is no short answer to these complexities. its not simply condoning or dissin their lifestyle. how could it be that way
good people are flawed and flawed people have goodness with in them[/quote:96d2e5100e]
yeah... i would say that people are only to blame for a small part of their own decisions. we're only animals, very complicated machines, and we make decisions based on what our brain calculates. and we're put in a lot of fucked up situations because our lifestyle isn't dictated by the natural functioning of our bodies.
i guess what i'm trying to say is, blaming the victims of poverty for acting in desperation is for republicans.
- Aug 6, 2006 06:20am by NRG - livin the art that is life !
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exactly, and still I ask the question if we are not a sum total of our perceptions, opinions, values, morals, words thoughts and actions then what are we.
blame game is dead my question has nothing to do with blame, to the contrary to me the mere fact that we can think speak and act alludes to us being at the very least eloquent animals phism.
what you said made me think about accountability or destiny.
do you believe you are destined to be who you are being phism? do you have any input into your circumstances at all? any opportunity for change in your life or just here passin time? are you the same as your parents and are your children destined to be yet another generation of your parents?
Tell me it isn't so . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
so because you are destined to be who you are being that is the explanation for exceptance . . . . .?
what are you tellin me phism please illusidate further . . . . .. .
- Aug 6, 2006 06:23am by Lucidialect
Word Atilla. I'm glad you were being sarcastic. Digital language leaves gaps in expression where inflection and body language would fill in. Sarcasm is hard to read on a board, unless you know somebody quite well and understand that they just wouldn't say such a thing.
It's inherent in our nature to try and classify our banes as easily and concisely as possible. Which is where the puritan demonologies of my forefathers (racially, not regionally) arose from. Fear of the native americans and the unknown environment pushed the puritans to find comfort in opposition against the indigenous peoples of america. Same thing happens today, you see it alot in the middle east. As long as people have something to fight against they can feel fulfilled and justified in their life goals and pursuits. The more basic the terms in which one can define their enemy, the easier it is to find people to fight beside them.
Shit's way convoluted...
- Aug 6, 2006 06:38am by D-Crew - -- D-Crew's Young Ace
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i mean if it sounded like i was defending the guys in the video it was because Reach's comment on it was strictly "SMH" as in he was looking down upon them... when in doubt that video doesn't really show who they are as people but the front they put on... because in reality some of those guys have enrolled themselves in college or are trying to... honestly some of those guys were faking and only being that way to increase their image, some of them are "gangsta rappers" who never even go to 12th St. anymore...
And to NRG, i didn't really have a choice besides school, nobody in the area would've gave me any drugs to sell because they all wanted to see me go the legit route...
and phism i don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but i do believe you can't blame a person for what their enviroment has groomed them to be... the schools in that area aren't shit, all we had were sports team and the block, luckily my mother was aware of this and would take me 30 mins away for school every morning...
- Aug 6, 2006 07:00am by phism
[quote:681b6b9f6b="NRG"]what you said made me think about accountability or destiny.
do you believe you are destined to be who you are being phism? do you have any input into your circumstances at all? any opportunity for change in your life or just here passin time? are you the same as your parents and are your children destined to be yet another generation of your parents?
Tell me it isn't so . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
so because you are destined to be who you are being that is the explanation for exceptance . . . . .?
what are you tellin me phism please illusidate further . . . . .. .[/quote:681b6b9f6b]
actually, i don't believe in choice at all.
things can only happen one way. everything that happens was brought about by what came before it. when you think you're making a choice, it's really because some outside stimulus sent some other reactions up to your brain, which was constructed by a series of other reactions, and will direct your actions according to its structure.
to believe in choice is to believe in time travel or multiple dimensions or something. show me any situation in which you could do something more than one way.
i don't think that means you have to be the same as your parents. i don't even really talk to my parents, but i have plenty of influences from family, friends, tv, music, everyday life, school, etc. but i'd say most of my decisions are probably driven by food, heh.
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True: Slaves were taught christianity by way of force..
Anybody disagree???
True: The Black Panther Party operated peacefully until brutalized.
Anybody disagree???
True: The Klu Klux Klan used to hold thier meetings on the lawns of capital buildings in major cities.
Anybody disagree???
True: Major figure-heads who were focused on an equal nation were murdered.
Anybody disagree???
When Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was assasinated riots broke out.
When George W. Bush was re-elected some protests occured.
Anybody disagree???
When the Patriot Act passed into law, a very small group of americans protested.
Anybody disagree???
When Iraq was unlawfully infiltrated most american citizens talked about "how bad it was", but did nothing.
Anybody disagree???
The scary part is that plenty more examples are available...
Examples of how minority people and nations are constantly torn apart by _____ ______
Damn. We was trained well.
Are these actions a last resort?
- Aug 6, 2006 07:46am by D-Crew - -- D-Crew's Young Ace
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[quote:e643dfc120="JDFlow"]Damn. We [size=18:e643dfc120][b:e643dfc120]was[/size:e643dfc120][/b:e643dfc120] trained well.
Are these actions a last resort?[/quote:e643dfc120]
were...
knowledge is the first step... "brotha"...
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[quote:eb81669d97="D-Crew"]knowledge is the first step... "brotha"...[/quote:eb81669d97]
More talk... Still no action.
By the way... where were we when Bush got re-elected... "brotha".
Oh yeah!? We was talkin bout candy paint and other shit we ain't got yet.
Actually I wasn't
- Aug 6, 2006 08:09am by D-Crew - -- D-Crew's Young Ace
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[quote:59adb3e64a="JDFlow"][quote:59adb3e64a="D-Crew"]knowledge is the first step... "brotha"...[/quote:59adb3e64a]
More talk... Still no action.
By the way... where were we when Bush got re-elected... "brotha".
Oh yeah!? We was talkin bout candy paint and other shit we ain't got yet.
Actually I wasn't[/quote:59adb3e64a]
oh i'm in college and am educating myself, i read plenty of books and have a very good base of knowledge...
when bush was re-elected i wasn't old enough to vote...
don't let J-O and Trav's lyrics effect your perception of Ace, which is who I am, which is who posts on here... the music my fam makes does not define me...
we wasn't talking about shit, we was doing us, you were doing you, which is probably the way it'll be after you read this...
"brotha" in the quotations is because typo's are a pet peeve of mine and i didn't think "brother" would have the same effect...
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? - Now I'm lost.
- Aug 6, 2006 11:41am by StikFiga - "i could never be a thug, they dont dress this well"--Malice of the Clipse
[quote:817181769d="JDFlow"][quote:817181769d="D-Crew"]knowledge is the first step... "brotha"...[/quote:817181769d]
More talk... Still no action.
By the way... where were we when Bush got re-elected... "brotha".
Oh yeah!? We was talkin bout candy paint and other shit we ain't got yet.
Actually I wasn't[/quote:817181769d]
so when do we start shooting white people JD?
- Aug 6, 2006 03:02pm by D-Crew - -- D-Crew's Young Ace
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[quote:c56cfcd065="JDFlow"]? - Now I'm lost.[/quote:c56cfcd065]
i don't know what it was, but the way i read it last night made it sound like you were attacking me...
if not then, my bad, lol...
- Aug 6, 2006 04:43pm by kbarnz
DAMN CRACKERS 👿 👿 👿 👿 😈 😈 [/quote]
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[quote:f9c53b6bdb="D-Crew"][quote:f9c53b6bdb="JDFlow"]? - Now I'm lost.[/quote:f9c53b6bdb]
i don't know what it was, but the way i read it last night made it sound like you were attacking me...
if not then, my bad, lol...[/quote:f9c53b6bdb]
My post read... Where were WE
As far as talkin about candy paint and all that, no I don't. Seems like almost everyone is though. It'd be nice if our mainstream folks would start using the music as a vehicle for change instead of painting the impossible dream in the heads of poverty stricken kids.
As far as attacking you, I can see how it can be read that way.
Here's what I'm saying, you're right knowledge = power. But how much knowledge do we need before taking action?
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[quote:ee9835a929="StikFiga"][quote:ee9835a929="JDFlow"][quote:ee9835a929="D-Crew"]knowledge is the first step... "brotha"...[/quote:ee9835a929]
More talk... Still no action.
By the way... where were we when Bush got re-elected... "brotha".
Oh yeah!? We was talkin bout candy paint and other shit we ain't got yet.
Actually I wasn't[/quote:ee9835a929]
so when do we start shooting white people JD?[/quote:ee9835a929]
[b:ee9835a929]NOW[/b:ee9835a929] nah, f'real though, it's not about killing people, especially killing one race for thier wrong doing. But damn! How much wrong do we let slide before we take action?
- Aug 6, 2006 05:06pm by D-Crew - -- D-Crew's Young Ace
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i understand what you meant now, look at the time and remember its the weekend and you can probably tell what state of mind i was in...
and yeah i agree... but thats another way we as a people are trapped, our greatest form of expression has been so commercialized that if you can't make dance records then you probably won't be heard...
ALOT of rappers today are more worried about a check and being on bet then actually saying something worthwhile...
- Aug 6, 2006 10:03pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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[quote:ae5498222b="D-Crew"]While You Criticize These Guys For The Way They Live, The Part They Play In Raising And Encouraging Me And Those After Me Go Ignored...[/quote:ae5498222b]
How far must our community have fallen that we don't object to such destructive behaviors?
How comfortable have we gotten that we no longer hold our brothers and sisters to a higher standard?
I never exacted any judgment over the individuals in that clip, but damn if I won't tell you (without mincing words) that that was some straight up ignorant shit.
- Aug 6, 2006 10:06pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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[quote:98e4b01725="StikFiga"]not judge how they live, no one is any better.[/quote:98e4b01725]
Haven't they chosen to live in such a way though Stik?
I mean, I understand that there are forces in action that want to see nothing more than brothers continue to make such choices in life, but that doesn't exactly excuse one from having to be responsible.
In years past our communities were about decrying such evils.
Rooting out such behaviors.
Where has that gone?
- Aug 6, 2006 10:10pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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[quote:7326ca67c3="phism"]
i guess what i'm trying to say is, blaming the victims of poverty for acting in desperation is for republicans.[/quote:7326ca67c3]
Personal accountability is what's missing from our communities.
We've gotten so comfortable with pointing our fingers at the institution of widespread discrimination that we've completely forgotten our responsibility in it all.
I'll be the first one to tell you how the institution of slavery and its residual effects are still being seen and felt everyday. I could go on for 4-5 page rant all by my lonesome.
BUT while there are forces in action that persist in trying to devour all that my people are...that does not put us in a place where we don't have to be responsible for what we do.
- Aug 6, 2006 10:19pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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[quote:296fdd506c="D-Crew"]i mean if it sounded like i was defending the guys in the video it was because Reach's comment on it was strictly "SMH" as in he was looking down upon them...[/quote:296fdd506c]
If holding my brothers and sisters to a higher standard makes me condescending then so be it. Folk are dying in astronomical numbers due to such destructive behaviors. I don't have time to sit here and cozy up to ignorance.
I'm available to help, in any way humanly possible, brothers and sisters in situations where their environment has stacked the odds against them, but I cannot and will not cozy up to ignorance simply for the sake of not being seen as an elitist. I've been working with kids for more than a decade to effect change in their lives. So that we can break this cycle.
The road ain't easy for folk trying to make a change.
I don't expect it to be.
If by me standing by the principles of which were taught to my mother and my mother's mother makes me anything less than a loving member of my people...I'm fine with that.
Truth-telling doesn't always win people over.
[quote:296fdd506c]when in doubt that video doesn't really show who they are as people but the front they put on...[/quote:296fdd506c]
I'm certain of that fact. People are much too complex to be dissected in 8 minutes, but while I won't argue the fact I know that 8 minutes is plenty of time to leave a lasting impression on someone. I don't pretend to know these brothers. I'm sure they're a lot more complex than I got to see. Here's what I do know though, they willingly and voluntarily participated in a video that does nothing but glorify destructive behaviors that cost fellow brothers and sisters their lives.
- Aug 6, 2006 10:25pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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[quote:73ac654ab5="D-Crew"]
ALOT of rappers today are more worried about a check and being on bet then actually saying something worthwhile...[/quote:73ac654ab5]
Ain't that the truth?
That's why I'm forced to say something everytime a mic is armed.
I see stuff on television that hurts my heart man. I can't sit down to a tablet and not have something to say about it.
Folk are out here hurting.
Rims and jewelry can't fix that pain.
- Aug 6, 2006 11:31pm by StikFiga - "i could never be a thug, they dont dress this well"--Malice of the Clipse
everything youve said reach is real, sometimes those answers arent the ones we wanna here, but there honest. but at a certain point, it feels like you talkin to a brick wall--im sure youve been there.
i often wonder what happend to the standards, i think they were replaced with money and hate, to of the most hollow things that this wicked world has to offer. very depressing.
- Aug 7, 2006 12:01am by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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[quote:ad88cb0bde="StikFiga"]everything youve said reach is real, sometimes those answers arent the ones we wanna here, but there honest. but at a certain point, it feels like you talkin to a brick wall--im sure youve been there.[/quote:ad88cb0bde]
I'm glad you understand Stik...
Who am I to look down upon the imperfections of others?
My religious foundation teaches me that God sees us all as 'wretched' apart from his grace. And grace itself is nothing more than being favored undeservedly. That, in itself, thwarts any attempt I could wage to present myself as any better than the next man.
I'm not here to pass judgment on anyone.
That said, I'm also not here to turn a blind eye to ignorance and the destructive behaviors that have become a legacy to my people.
[quote:ad88cb0bde]i often wonder what happend to the standards, i think they were replaced with money and hate, to of the most hollow things that this wicked world has to offer. very depressing.[/quote:ad88cb0bde]
It is depressing, but I'm encouraged everyday.
Encouraged in the triumphs of our young people.
I know there's hope.
And I'm doing all that I can to be a very small part of that change.
For all eyes that may bother to read this in its entirety understand that I have no interest in berating those who have taken the wrong path. My goal, my mission is to speak out against the behaviors that are handicapping our community, to be an example to my brethren and to be available to them in everyway possible.
Love is love...
- Aug 7, 2006 02:21am by Distorted_Mastermind - I reject your reality and substitute my own.
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- Aug 7, 2006 05:18am by kbarnz
Reach-
My thing is this....
Say what you mean, and mean what you say!
Posting that..to me, is a set-up. Setting up people that don't even know, to prove how holy you are to the few people that read this stuff. I mean if you feel like we're doing bad as a people, then put in the subject line"We're doing bad" and then in the body, offer your possible solution dog. It just makes you "look" like your passing judgement on people you don't even know- and at the end of the day, to me... that approach is cowardly and lacks leadership.We can all complain and moan, and put bait on a hook, but for real, real ass people without a self promoted agenda don't do shit like that!!
Peace. 😀
- Aug 7, 2006 07:21am by Lucidialect
K-Barnz said ("Say what you mean, and mean what you say!")
This from the most random-est (don't care if it's not a word) saying dude on these boards! I find it hard to believe you mean 80% of the shit you write. And I don't care whether you do or not, but it's hypocritical to call Reach on preaching something he believes in when half of your comments are sarcasm and satire. Plus, I think Reach offers good advice within the contents of his music, his true method of message conveyance.
Only thing I know about K-Barnz is that I waited on her ass for a private lunch at Lidia's, twice. And she likes arugula salads.
I do agree that we need to see more action, less preaching, in all things. But this ain't the forum to reach out to the public. This is where people who want to build on hiphop and hiphop related activities, whether philosophical or self-promoting, talk about what to do, how to do it, and sometimes just bitch or share their cynical outlook. Like you said, only a handful of us even read or respond to this shit.
- Aug 7, 2006 07:29am by phism
i waited on kay barnes at the bluebird once. i didn't realize it until i got her credit card. she was wearing the goofiest bright purple velour jumpsuit you can imagine.
i forgot to poison her.
- Aug 7, 2006 04:14pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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[quote:8aec7d02b4="kbarnz"]Reach-
My thing is this....
Say what you mean, and mean what you say![/quote:8aec7d02b4]
I stand by everything I said. I'm not singing a different tune.
[quote:8aec7d02b4]Posting that..to me, is a set-up. Setting up people that don't even know, to prove how holy you are to the few people that read this stuff.[/quote:8aec7d02b4]
This sounds eerily like something someone else has said to me about a dozen times in this very forum. This leaves me wondering...
Again, our community has gone to hell in a handbasket when we can't speak out against such behaviors for fear of being called elitists.
Call me what you want. I said it before.
Truth telling doesn't always win folk over.
[quote:8aec7d02b4]It just makes you "look" like your passing judgement on people you don't even know- and at the end of the day, to me... that approach is cowardly and lacks leadership.[/quote:8aec7d02b4]
Cowardice in my book amounts to seeing a problem and being to afraid to call it like it is just so folk won't think you're passing judgment on them. Again, that is not what our community was about 40 years ago.
Your neighbors beat your little ass when they saw you cutting fool.
They weren't concerned about how your parents were going to respond because there was a standard for what was and wasn't acceptable. And sure enough upon your parents finding out they reinforced that discipline.
We need that now. Them brothers don't need to be pacified.
The world outside isn't going to. Neither should those who love and care about them.
[quote:8aec7d02b4]We can all complain and moan, and put bait on a hook, but for real, real ass people without a self promoted agenda don't do shit like that!![/quote:8aec7d02b4]
So this is a validation process now?
I have to outline what I've done within our community in order to decry the very things that've kept many of us in the same position?
(Sigh)
I've been working diligently with members of my community for as long as I can remember. I'm not going to make a list in this forum. That would only make those efforts look 'puffed up' and insincere. Folk that know me can vouch for me though. I'm not just talking.
Again, yesteryear you didn't have to be a civic leader to speak out against the destructive behaviors handicapping your community. My how quickly and how far we've fallen.
[i:8aec7d02b4]"Waitin' on someone to pity us while we findin beauty in the hideous..."[/i:8aec7d02b4]
Talib Kweli
- Aug 7, 2006 04:18pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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[quote:e613bc7203="Lucidialect"]This from the most random-est (don't care if it's not a word) saying dude on these boards! I find it hard to believe you mean 80% of the shit you write. And I don't care whether you do or not, but it's hypocritical to call Reach on preaching something he believes in when half of your comments are sarcasm and satire.[/quote:e613bc7203]
Damn if you didn't just take everything I was thinking and key it.
[quote:e613bc7203]Plus, I think Reach offers good advice within the contents of his music, his true method of message conveyance.[/quote:e613bc7203]
And that's only a small part of it, but that's been my mission with this music from Jumpstreet.
- Aug 7, 2006 06:03pm by D-Crew - -- D-Crew's Young Ace
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Its not what you say its how you say it, and Reach the way you started this thread led me and it seems like others to misinterpret your intentions of creating this. Once you clarified I understand completely where you were coming from. It seemed as if you were just specifically attacking, and judging those guys, but now I [i:f4068e3343]believe[/i:f4068e3343] you were using them as a representation of the African American community as a whole.
- Aug 7, 2006 06:34pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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[quote:475436977f="D-Crew"]Its not what you say its how you say it, and Reach the way you started this thread led me and it seems like others to misinterpret your intentions of creating this.[/quote:475436977f]
I'm not sure how I gave that impression...
By saying such behaviors cause me to shake my head?
[quote:475436977f]Once you clarified I understand completely where you were coming from. It seemed as if you were just specifically attacking, and judging those guys, but now I [i:475436977f]believe[/i:475436977f] you were using them as a representation of the African American community as a whole.[/quote:475436977f]
I don't know them brothers...
I would've said the very same thing if they'd been from Des Moines.
It struck a chord with me because they're from my hometown.
