Topic: CANDIDATES FOR THE NEXT GREATEST MC LIST (mtv's list)
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What's you list look like? here's MTV's List
Thursday, April 20, 2006
MTV have complied yet another Hip Hop list, but this time name's candidates for the next greatest MC list.
I would really like to meet the person who put together this list.... I mean... Camron... Ludacris.. Kanye West..... 50 Cent... I really don't think so!!!! But Talib and Jada definitely get my vote!
MTV's List
Ludacris: "Bottom line, Cris is the most versatile MC in the rap game. He knows no bounds in his raps."
Kanye West: "In five or 10 years, not only will we be talking about 'Ye as one of the best artists on the mic, but his invite to the producers hall of fame will have been signed, sealed and delivered."
Lil' Wayne: "After digesting the classic Tha Carter and its superior sequel, a lot of people down bottom and up top really believe Wayne's self-proclaimed status as 'the best rapper alive since the best rapper retired.'"
The Game: "Game has been keeping his name out there recently with beef disses, but if he can stay away from feuds, he's absolutely going to be one of the special artists down the road."
Beanie Sigel: "He may never give us a huge radio anthem, but that's not what we love Sigel for. He comes with that true grit in his raps."
Jadakiss: "He's not going to give you a million different flows, he's not going to change his inflection up (he doesn't need to: he has one of the most recognizable voices out there), but he will keep killing you with words."
50 Cent: "He doesn't make too many friends, but man, does 50 know how to make hit records."
TI: "King is proving to be Tip's breakout LP, solidifying the King of the South's top position in all regions."
Cam'ron: "Cam himself is entertainment personified, whether it be his outlandish interview quotes, even crazier rap sentences or his swaggering outfits."
Talib Kweli: "He's conscious but fly and gets ridiculously busy."
- Apr 21, 2006 05:36pm by phism
that list is horrible. wouldn't make it hard to say hip-hop is dead.
ludacris is definitely more versatile than i like to give him credit for (see the song "hip-hop quotables")
KANYE WEST SUCKS AT RAPPING. end of discussion. same with anybody associated with g-unit.
lil wayne and t.i. are both kind of idiot savants in my opinion. so they get amnesty, but aren't in a position to be a "best" mc of any generation.
cam'ron and the rest of the diplomats are only awesome because they're hilariously terrible. i will pay money for their records just to see what kind of shit they rhyme badly and how many half-assed metaphors they can make. and i think i'm gonna get a diplomats shirt, too.
anyway, fuck everybody on this list as far as attributing any legendary status to them.
names i'm gonna throw in: godemis, keak da sneak, peedi crakk... i don't know. i think LL's gonna come back this year, personally ;x
- Apr 21, 2006 06:00pm by crimestoppers - I'M NOT A BUNNY, AND YOUR NOT A FROG SO LETS NOT JUMP TO ANY CONCLUSIONS
Someday all those artists are going to be considered old folks music. I'm gonna be the grandma in the rocking chair popping the word of mouf and college dropout albums on the front porch singing along having a good time.
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Luda is sick, point blank period. The rest, super wack! Kanye just tricked everyone. He's a businessman and an extraordinary producer, but yeah, he's pretty much garbage on the mic, although some of his tracks have good subject matter they lack good execution. Take a second and look at his formula, its genius:
Signed to Rockafella: Already has the mainstreams attention.
Wears a backpack and has songs that the underground heads can relate to: Gives false hope that he is some sort of prophet trying to bring real hiphop back to the forefront.
Produces Commons Album: Keeps his credibility as being "down for the cause".
Calls Dame Dash and himself "Assholes", and talks about how he would never give your demo a chance: Oh so the truth comes out! This was the point when I realized I had been tricked.
- Apr 21, 2006 06:13pm by Distorted_Mastermind - I reject your reality and substitute my own.
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Speaking of folk......Hip Hop is the Folk music of this generation imo. Anyway that list is pretty damn weak...Where are the pioneers? The guys that set the tone for the diversity of today.
- Apr 21, 2006 06:29pm by Sku - I knocked up the turntables and gave birth to phat stylez!
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[quote:bdeb3ca943]
names i'm gonna throw in: godemis, keak da sneak, peedi crakk... i don't know. i think LL's gonna come back this year, personally ;x[/quote:bdeb3ca943]
Yo, sorry dude but LL's album is Fucking GARBAGE!!!!!!!!! I threw that shit out my car window.
With the exceptions of Luda, Talib and T.I. I think this list is wack!
I do like Young Buck from G-unit though.
- Apr 21, 2006 07:17pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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Kanye West, Talib Kweli, TI, Fabolous, Ludacris
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My list goes somethin like this...
[color=yellow:7b5a5693ea]RAKIM
BIGGIE
BIG L
BIG NOYD
SAIGON
NAS
CORMEGA[/color:7b5a5693ea]
[color=red:7b5a5693ea]BUSTA RHYMES [/color:7b5a5693ea]my personal all time favorite. Content, flow, charisma... hmmm, what else do you want?
[color=yellow:7b5a5693ea]SEAN PRICE
CANIBUS
REDMAN
GHOSTFACE
TWISTA[/color:7b5a5693ea] don't front on [color=yellow:7b5a5693ea]SNOOP[/color:7b5a5693ea] either
"it's like everywhere I look and everywhere I go..."
2 PAC fell off my list after reading a De La Soul interview in Elemental Mag, where members stated that they would be in the same studio with him often and noticed he had a ghost writer. 😯
- Apr 21, 2006 07:35pm by Lucidialect
I agree with most errrr-body on this, but....
...I mean, ya'll sound surprised that MTV would plug their regular rotations as the best out there. The list should be called "highest grossing rap artists for MTV". Thats it. None of these artists would be on the list if they weren't grossing millions of dollars for some corporate entity. Its not a recognition of skill, its a recognition of who can sell themselves the best to this station's viewing public.
And, to run down the line, Luda used to be sick as fuck. Started selling crazy records and now sucks. Kanye's raps suck, but his beats are incredible, I like his hooks, and Talib wouldn't be in near as heavy rotation right now if it weren't for him. Same for Common, though he's not on the list. For whatever reason, I kind of like Lil Wayne and Jada. But, Everybody else is trash, their music on the radio is trash, and their videos on MTV are...c'mon everybody, say it with me....TRASSSSSHHHHHHHH!!!!
All I'm sayin, don't take anything MTV would classify with any degree of seriousness. They prey off hiphop and its marketability. They contribute nothing to it, except the inspired interest of millions of teens who know nothing about the history of the culture, who started it, who pioneered its evolution, and especially who's styles these front-men are biting the shit out of and making millions off of. I've been on an unofficial boycott of MTV for probably close to a decade...you know, unless its late, I'm feelin stressed and feel these booty-shaking ladies could help me out...HAHAHAHA. Lol...
- Apr 21, 2006 08:06pm by phism
[quote:5c086fce90="JDFlow"]My list goes somethin like this...
[color=yellow:5c086fce90]RAKIM
BIGGIE
BIG L
BIG NOYD
SAIGON
NAS
CORMEGA[/color:5c086fce90]
[color=red:5c086fce90]BUSTA RHYMES [/color:5c086fce90]my personal all time favorite. Content, flow, charisma... hmmm, what else do you want?
[color=yellow:5c086fce90]SEAN PRICE
CANIBUS
REDMAN
GHOSTFACE
TWISTA[/color:5c086fce90] don't front on [color=yellow:5c086fce90]SNOOP[/color:5c086fce90] either
"it's like everywhere I look and everywhere I go..."
2 PAC fell off my list after reading a De La Soul interview in Elemental Mag, where members stated that they would be in the same studio with him often and noticed he had a ghost writer. :shock:[/quote:5c086fce90]
i think the list is supposed to be about current artists that are going to "go down in history" as some of the best.
i don't think we have very many. i also don't know what timeline we're operating on and i keep wanting to say things that i think are going to get popular rather than judging by quality.
i think el-p is one of my favorites of all time but i don't know if he's new enough to say "next"... but neither are some of the people on mtv's list and he's still doing shit so whatever. but i guess on those grounds we could include doom, boots, and other people that have been around and are still going...
but still, i've started to realize that that there's a difference between liking something and whether or not it's good. if you dissect some of the stuff from Big L or on Nas' Illmatic... you've got really complex poetic devices in the flow, the choice of words, and contextual wordplay. you think when 50 cent is rapping he knows anything about syllable placement? shit, half of these fools don't even [i:5c086fce90]actually rhyme words[/i:5c086fce90] sometimes.
- Apr 21, 2006 08:57pm by Distorted_Mastermind - I reject your reality and substitute my own.
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Yeah I just noticed the "next"........Sage Franics is real badass from delivery to lyrics....He is too much of a rebell to make that list though since his music tends to be postive when it comes to overall subject matter and that is a no no these days.
- Apr 21, 2006 09:28pm by Atilla_Beatsmith - [email protected]
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[quote:2512b5ea5c="Distorted_Mastermind"]Yeah I just noticed the "next"........Sage Franics is real badass from delivery to lyrics....He is too much of a rebell to make that list though since his music tends to be postive when it comes to overall subject matter and that is a no no these days.[/quote:2512b5ea5c]
Yeah Sage rips
[quote:2512b5ea5c="Lucidialect"]I agree with most errrr-body on this, but....
...I mean, ya'll sound surprised that MTV would plug their regular rotations as the best out there. The list should be called "highest grossing rap artists for MTV". Thats it. None of these artists would be on the list if they weren't grossing millions of dollars for some corporate entity. Its not a recognition of skill, its a recognition of who can sell themselves the best to this station's viewing public. [/quote:2512b5ea5c]
suprising how many people don't think about that on these lists.
- Apr 21, 2006 11:27pm by Adru
damn...im gettin tired of seeing cats trash kanye--yea,hes not all super scientifical abstract poetic and shit,but so what--the dude spits rhymes that mad people can relate to,is nearly the only hip hop artist that's in the mainstream that touches on some real topics and issues.hes got some dope wordplay and rhyme structure,and honestly no ones ever had a delivery like this cat.hes payed mad dues too.and did i mention hes pretty ill on the beats?im in no way saying hes one of the best ever,just tired of seeing people completely dismiss him.no disrespect but thats just some bullshit.....1
- Apr 21, 2006 11:30pm by DEMENCHA
kanye's fresh on the hooks
- Apr 22, 2006 12:14am by NRG - livin the art that is life !
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This is the original question "What's your list look like?
so erbody except jd has picked on the mtv list who cares about their list
what's does your list look like?
I don't know enough to have a list of national emcees .
I mostly listen to local music and what ever yall tell me to give a listen to.
so tell me something
peace
nrg
- Apr 22, 2006 12:18am by crimestoppers - I'M NOT A BUNNY, AND YOUR NOT A FROG SO LETS NOT JUMP TO ANY CONCLUSIONS
Oh yep, I forgot to add that I like T.I. his latest single what you know about that is a lot of fun.
Kanye is the shit, he can rap well. He spit the track through the wire with his jaw wired shut.
honostly everyone of the artists on that list have at least one song that I like.
To me it just seems like people are uptight and unwilling to have fun with it and that their standards are just too high or something.
- Apr 22, 2006 02:50am by phism
i sorta posted a list. but i didn't think about it too hard.
most of those artists have a song that i like too, but nto enough to be considered "the next greatest"... kanye is a fresh producer but he's not exactly going to be a king mc any time soon. if anything, twista's already got him beat for chi-town, but i don't know if that counts as "next" either (po pimpin?). ludacris is the best one on there in my opinion, but he's easy to get sick of too. and i don't listen to beanie sigel enough but he doesn't seem too bad.
i really haven't actually heard anybody straight up kill a mic in a while. everything i can think of is at least 4 years old.
some of the mc's on stones throw are pretty good. i've heard a dope saigon verse here and there, but nothing spectacular. i think i might like cool calm pete but he's too easy to not pay attention to. some british mc's aren't bad... i think so solid has some fresh mc's. if pitbull ever said anything interesting he'd probably be good. like i said, i'm watching peedi crakk... don't know yet though. blah blah. i don't know. i guess this is a good thread for finding the best shit, because i'm looking.
- Apr 22, 2006 03:07am by MILES - [url]http://www.MilesBonny.com/[/url] Location: KCK
lil wayne is currently amazing. do is TI, Kanye, etc.
my favs who are currently doing it?>>>:
[b:5746c5b075]TI
Ty
Lil Wayne
One Be Lo
Pharoah Monch!!!
Joe Good
Adru the Misphit
Dudley Perkins
Devin the Dude
The Clipse
Rosco P Coltrane
Pharrell
Common
Sa-Ra
Kanye
and I'm anxious to see how good more local MCs can get if everyone steps their game up.
[/b:5746c5b075]
ummmm
- Apr 22, 2006 03:25am by D-Crew - -- D-Crew's Young Ace
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Ace's List of Up And Comers...
Lil Wayne
Lupe Fiasco
D-CREW
The Jacka
The Clipse
Young Joc
Little Brother
D-CREW
and maybe D-CREW 8)
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MTV list is crap!!!
my top two point blank
#1 Tupac
#2 Rakim
a large list follows after that, but my top two does not move.....ever!!!
- Apr 22, 2006 06:18am by phism
hasn't the jacka been around a while? i kind of want "all the girls say" on vinyl.
- Apr 22, 2006 01:49pm by aeongrey
there is no hope for the intelligent emcee as far as receiving mass acceptance and support anymore.
MTV makes my fists shake.
- Apr 22, 2006 03:38pm by Adru
alright...my top 10 of all time,in no particular order...
chuck d
rakim
nas
tupac
big l
big pun
ghost face
black thought
common
immortal technique
1
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[quote:180653927b="phism"]i really haven't actually heard anybody straight up kill a mic in a while. everything i can think of is at least 4 years old.[/quote:180653927b]
Where you been at? Saigons "The Greatest Story Never Told"
"You sold a few dimes, but when you rappin you the crack king, I sold it to whites when you thought it was just a black thing." - Saigon
All that Little Brother shit too! Not even to mention all the Madlib shit droppin constantly. What about the locals? I've heard a lot of shit I like comin from home. There's a lot of good stuff droppin all the time.
- Apr 22, 2006 05:49pm by Atilla_Beatsmith - [email protected]
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[quote:29b968ad4f="JDFLOW"]All that Little Brother shit too! Not even to mention all the Madlib shit droppin constantly. What about the locals? I've heard a lot of shit I like comin from home. [b:29b968ad4f]There's a lot of good stuff droppin all the time.[/b:29b968ad4f][/quote:29b968ad4f]
yes there is, you've just gotta look for it sometimes.
- Apr 22, 2006 07:10pm by NRG - livin the art that is life !
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[quote:ad0f1947d7="MILES"]lil wayne is currently amazing. do is TI, Kanye, etc.
my favs who are currently doing it?>>>:
[b:ad0f1947d7]TI
Ty
Lil Wayne
One Be Lo
Pharoah Monch!!!
Joe Good
Adru the Misphit
Dudley Perkins
Devin the Dude
The Clipse
Rosco P Coltrane
Pharrell
Common
Sa-Ra
Kanye
and I'm anxious to see how good more local MCs can get if everyone steps their game up.
[/b:ad0f1947d7]
ummmm[/quote:ad0f1947d7]
thanks Miles, (one of my music guru) I gonna be checkin these guys out to see what I hear. I second you on the local mc comment as well. as I said, I mostly listen to music from the local scene. I watchin to see who steps up or does what ever. still don't know enough about the hardcore scene workin on that too
nrg
- Apr 22, 2006 08:19pm by D-Crew - -- D-Crew's Young Ace
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[quote:bcdba4994d="phism"]hasn't the jacka been around a while? i kind of want "all the girls say" on vinyl.[/quote:bcdba4994d]
yeah but he's only two solo albums deep tho...
- Apr 22, 2006 09:37pm by phism
i like saigon's verse on mark ronson's remix of d'angelo's "devil's pie" (the one over the stokes beat p.s. fuck that band)... i don't know, he's really hit or miss for me, but i think part of it would be solved if he had more consistent beats. i've mostly only heard that one anti-50 mixtape whatever it was called.
- Apr 22, 2006 09:44pm by beatbroker - -beatbroker
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i think the list hits it on the head
ALL the most awesomely rad emcees in the world are repped.
don't front like the game ain't got game.
damn
and CAM... that's my man right thurr.
i think this whole issue of "skills" "talent" and "intelligence" is overrated.
whoever pushes the hottest whip... THAT is the dopest emcee.
that's real
- Apr 23, 2006 12:19am by Adru
just noticed i made your list miles....goood looking for real--been feeling like a massive sack of shit the last couple days,i appreciate the show of confidence...peace!
- Apr 24, 2006 11:01am by StikFiga - "i could never be a thug, they dont dress this well"--Malice of the Clipse
sometimes internet forums make me crazy, are yall seriously gonna call lil wayne wack with a straight face?
anywho, the rappers from the recent crop that i think have/already made and impact are....
Ludacris (sick, needs to make another good album)
Lil Wayne (hes only 21 or something, and has stepped up tremondously)
Kanye West(hate all you want, dude is official)
Turf Talk (balanced Hyphy music, still got that gutter edge)
Saigon (everything a street MC is posed to be)
Killer Mike (if he ever makes a good album)
T.I.(official, youre dealin with T.I for the next 5 years)
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Ok, Im gonna say it "LIL WAYNE MY ASS" The following song by Lil Wayne has upwards of 13 cusswords, and he says Nigga at least 9 times, while bragging and boasting about murder and material possesions.
You know who that reminds me of ? Kids I went to highschool with.
Whoa, thats a brilliant brilliant mind at work right there,groundbreaking words that we should all write down and quote to future generations, I guess such a scholarly MC should go down in the history books.
"Tha Mobb"
Yeah... hard body (hard body)
Carter carter Carter yeah
Lets go
Cash Money Young Money motherfuck the other side
They can fuck with us if they want I bring 'em homicide
Word to my momma I'm gonna continue bombin
Til they gettin out the game it's like comin out of a coma
I'm tryin... but I'm normal when this rap shit get borin
All I ask is that you pray for me (Please)
And the beat keep cryin and I'mma keep beatin her
Fee I'm fuckin her I'm deep in her sleep in her
And what happens when the reaper come (huh?)
I'm just hopin that he sends that elevator up
I made enough I ain't meant shit
So while I'm here I'mma take that and take this (nigga!)
Breakfast yes let's eat wipe ya mouth when ya finished
Then hunt for the lunch and dinner no beginner
To the criminal activity fuck with them they rushin in
Like Seminoles Indians no bow and arrows Harold
Just leaners Cheena just choppers Robert
Carter II tell me how is you gon stop a riot
I lock and seal it up the best I could feel it (yeah!)
I'm in the lead I can pop a wheelie (got em!)
Not for rookies late bloomers stay in the womb (GO!)
I'm here muhfucker make room... BOOM!
Young Tune the big kahuna
It's my ocean baby y'all niggaz is tuna
Better now than sooner junior
Fly around ya city try and take another tune ya
I ain't goin nowhere special I won't never leave
Shit I'm already a legend if I ever leave
Game get rid of me? Not little me
Man I got 'em I'mma get 'em B (I got 'em B)
I'm hungry like I didn't eat
I want it like I didn't see a mill before seventeen
What the fuck you niggaz tellin me?
You pups can't keep up with the pedigree
Catch me where the weather be somewhere in the seventies
Call myself settling palm trees Promethezine but whats new?
Sometimes I can't cut through that rough loop
Get fucked so many times til it's fuck you (fuck em!)
So how you wan' do it baby we can get it
All you gotta do is say it and I'm wit it
Money and murder you my nigga my jelly preserver
I'mma ride baby til the judge give me a verdict yeah
Hear me or heard me I get it and serve it
Cuz everytime I did it I hit it and hurt it yeah
Now I kill it the mission accomplished
The niggaz abolished the bitches astonished
Then they pay homage when did they find it but
Now that they know it's a must I remind 'em so
They don't forget it I underline it and
I'm in the sky when the thunder's cryin young'n
I been through all that I done done what you sayin
I put it down when the others was playin
When the jungle was open I rolled in with the riders
Stole food from the bears and bought it back to the lions
Quote unquote with the eighth I'm a gorilla but lighter
Wit the eye of a tiger the heart of a fighter yeah
Start 'em ignite 'em I walk through fire
Watch the flames start multiplyin whoo! yeah
Alter a nigga nina talk to a nigga
Take a chunk outcha body like a shark bit a nigga
I'm awkward like Cartwright fuck wit a nigga
Shot ugly but my arch right come on dog bark bite
Fork in the road I'm always goin right
Nowadays knowin life ain't no more road lights
We can't see but we gon make it to the finish line
It's right there the goal line right behind the scrimmage line
Touchdown check the scoreboard gimme mines
Semi 9 fit me fine hit a nigga twenty times
Damn then one more to the face (BOW!) just
So they close the casket like I pay to close the case
I'm made straight mafia shit front line
Top rank ready to die for my shit and the obvious shit
If I talk about my robbery they prolly get rich
So fuck 'em I'mma let 'em sit
And I ain't duckin cuz I'm right here I'm just enough
I don't care who at the top of the stairs I'm steppin up
See you fuckin up the money baby that ain't good business
You startin to look like a witness and this is
For the gangstas and the bitches the hustlers and the hoes
Crossover whatever mainstream know
Cuz Wayne thinks silent Wayne'll never fold
You heard it right here if the game was ever told
Lift up ya toes and look under a rug
Trust me there's history under all that dust
So deep down in the dirty there lies us (who?)
Yeah Cash Money Records and I'm still up front
Stunna pop a bottle baby peel us a blunt
Lets eat and talk about all them niggaz we cut
What? You know what? Lets not fuck up our lunch
Thats real shit if you ever seen such
Chuch
Tha Mobb
nigga
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[quote:2dc855e259="JKR70"]"Tha Mobb"[/quote:2dc855e259]
One Of My Favorite Songs
[quote:2dc855e259="JKR70"][b:2dc855e259]Til they[/b:2dc855e259] gettin out the game it's like comin out of a coma[/quote:2dc855e259]
"Told Them"
[quote:2dc855e259="JKR70"]Fee I'm fuckin her I'm deep in her [b:2dc855e259]sleep in[/b:2dc855e259] her[/quote:2dc855e259]
"sleeping"
[quote:2dc855e259="JKR70"]I made enough I ain't [b:2dc855e259]meant[/b:2dc855e259] shit[/quote:2dc855e259]
"made"
[quote:2dc855e259="JKR70"]Just [b:2dc855e259]leaners Cheena[/b:2dc855e259] just choppers Robert[/quote:2dc855e259]
"ninas gina"
[quote:2dc855e259="JKR70"]Fly around ya city try and take [b:2dc855e259]another tune ya[/b:2dc855e259][/quote:2dc855e259]
"a number two on ya"
[quote:2dc855e259="JKR70"][b:2dc855e259]Game[/b:2dc855e259] get rid of me? Not little me[/quote:2dc855e259]
"Can't"
[quote:2dc855e259="JKR70"][b:2dc855e259]Quote unquote with the eighth[/b:2dc855e259] I'm a gorilla but lighter[/quote:2dc855e259]
"Hold Court With The Apes"
[quote:2dc855e259="JKR70"]If I talk about my [b:2dc855e259]robbery[/b:2dc855e259] they prolly get rich[/quote:2dc855e259]
"Rivalry"
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[quote:53e94e31f8="D-Crew"][quote:53e94e31f8="JKR70"]"Tha Mobb"[/quote:53e94e31f8]
One Of My Favorite Songs
[quote:53e94e31f8="JKR70"][b:53e94e31f8]Til they[/b:53e94e31f8] gettin out the game it's like comin out of a coma[/quote:53e94e31f8]
"Told Them"
[quote:53e94e31f8="JKR70"]Fee I'm fuckin her I'm deep in her [b:53e94e31f8]sleep in[/b:53e94e31f8] her[/quote:53e94e31f8]
"sleeping"
[quote:53e94e31f8="JKR70"]I made enough I ain't [b:53e94e31f8]meant[/b:53e94e31f8] shit[/quote:53e94e31f8]
"made"
[quote:53e94e31f8="JKR70"]Just [b:53e94e31f8]leaners Cheena[/b:53e94e31f8] just choppers Robert[/quote:53e94e31f8]
"ninas gina"
[quote:53e94e31f8="JKR70"]Fly around ya city try and take [b:53e94e31f8]another tune ya[/b:53e94e31f8][/quote:53e94e31f8]
"a number two on ya"
[quote:53e94e31f8="JKR70"][b:53e94e31f8]Game[/b:53e94e31f8] get rid of me? Not little me[/quote:53e94e31f8]
"Can't"
[quote:53e94e31f8="JKR70"][b:53e94e31f8]Quote unquote with the eighth[/b:53e94e31f8] I'm a gorilla but lighter[/quote:53e94e31f8]
"Hold Court With The Apes"
[quote:53e94e31f8="JKR70"]If I talk about my [b:53e94e31f8]robbery[/b:53e94e31f8] they prolly get rich[/quote:53e94e31f8]
"Rivalry"[/quote:53e94e31f8]
I have no Idea what any of this means, or is saying.
- Apr 24, 2006 11:08pm by D-Crew - -- D-Crew's Young Ace
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The words in quotation marks "" are corrections to the bolded words in the quote boxes... 😆 😆
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[quote:a073b2cd8b="D-Crew"]The words in quotation marks "" are corrections to the bolded words in the quote boxes... 😆 :lol:[/quote:a073b2cd8b]
Oh. ok.
- Apr 24, 2006 11:34pm by Adru
sorry dog...but thats an ill verse....dude is in no fucking way the best rapper in the game,thats ridiculous,and i think even he knows that.hes trying to sell records..i dont honestly think he could listen to a nas or saigon or even a kanye verse and a million other cats and in his heart really think hes the best alive.but he did step up alot,and hes gotten tight.whats wrong with some cuss words,its just words ya know?and this verse is a perfect example of a cat having at least two distinct sides to his personality.and in my eyes hes not really glorifying anything negative,because hes talking a little about the consequences and guilt from those actions.not to mention the rhyme structues just pretty sick,honestly,ha ha...respect your opinion,but this is the life this kid comes from,and hes trying to make something positive out of it(now at least,im not talking bling bling little wayne)--hes keeping shit gutter and i think giving kids some shit to think about at the same time,more power to him.just my 2 cents.peace
- Apr 25, 2006 01:30am by Atilla_Beatsmith - [email protected]
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[quote:ad3a6dc792="Adru"]sorry dog...but thats an ill verse....dude is in no fucking way the best rapper in the game,thats ridiculous,and i think even he knows that.hes trying to sell records..i dont honestly think he could listen to a nas or saigon or even a kanye verse and a million other cats and in his heart really think hes the best alive.but he did step up alot,and hes gotten tight.whats wrong with some cuss words,its just words ya know?and this verse is a perfect example of a cat having at least two distinct sides to his personality.and in my eyes hes not really glorifying anything negative,because hes talking a little about the consequences and guilt from those actions.not to mention the rhyme structues just pretty sick,honestly,ha ha...respect your opinion,but this is the life this kid comes from,and hes trying to make something positive out of it(now at least,im not talking bling bling little wayne)--hes keeping shit gutter and i think giving kids some shit to think about at the same time,more power to him.just my 2 cents.peace[/quote:ad3a6dc792]
I see where you're comin from Adru, but I have to partially disagree. Lil Wayne [i:ad3a6dc792]may[/i:ad3a6dc792] be trying to turn a negative into a positive, but he's still referring to these actions in a condoning sense. When a lot of kids listen to messages like this they may not get past the "hit a nigga 20 times" and delve deeper into the meaning...mainly because he's bigging up the violent part. Feel me? He is getting better I'd say, I'm glad he's not talking about the bling anymore...
[size=18:ad3a6dc792]D@MN STRAIGHT i KILL A N!GG@ FOR F#*^$N WIT' MY PAPER![/size:ad3a6dc792] [size=7:ad3a6dc792]although violence is bad and should never be used to solve any problems.[/size:ad3a6dc792]
[size=12:ad3a6dc792]but as far a Lil' Wayne as a rapper...I'll pass..."If I don't like it, I don't like it, that don't mean that I'm hatin'" ~ Common[/size:ad3a6dc792]
- Apr 25, 2006 04:49am by phism
i've pretty much only heard a few lil wayne songs, but hustler musik is a good enough song for me to give the others a chance.
for a pretty obviously misogynistic sex song, "feel like fuckin somethin" is pretty interesting.
i don't know, some songs are accidentally a little deeper than they intend to be. for example, i think the hook on nore's "nothin" is pretty fucking potent, without really meaning to be.
- Apr 25, 2006 01:08pm by StikFiga - "i could never be a thug, they dont dress this well"--Malice of the Clipse
so the only way a rapper can be considered great or even good, hes got to be righteous, pretentious and just a good role model? good to remember.
yall are a trip!
- Apr 25, 2006 01:14pm by StikFiga - "i could never be a thug, they dont dress this well"--Malice of the Clipse
[quote:2b63d31e90="Adru"]sorry dog...but thats an ill verse....dude is in no fucking way the best rapper in the game,thats ridiculous,and i think even he knows that.hes trying to sell records..i dont honestly think he could listen to a nas or saigon or even a kanye verse and a million other cats and in his heart really think hes the best alive.but he did step up alot,and hes gotten tight.whats wrong with some cuss words,its just words ya know?and this verse is a perfect example of a cat having at least two distinct sides to his personality.and in my eyes hes not really glorifying anything negative,because hes talking a little about the consequences and guilt from those actions.not to mention the rhyme structues just pretty sick,honestly,ha ha...respect your opinion,but this is the life this kid comes from,and hes trying to make something positive out of it(now at least,im not talking bling bling little wayne)--hes keeping shit gutter and i think giving kids some shit to think about at the same time,more power to him.just my 2 cents.peace[/quote:2b63d31e90]
exactly
"i aint never shot nobody I PROMISE, and i promise if you try me you gon' make me rewind this track/the gat'll go will blllaatt, that boy'll lay flat so flat"
thats like my favorite lil wayne rhyme, cause he told on himself--and still manage to find space to sound "hard" but he's a kid, i dunno, hes dope and not given his proper credit. no he's not the best in the game, but he thinks he is--thats hiphop, to me.
"lookin like a star bitch, go ahead and make a wish!"
- Apr 25, 2006 01:17pm by StikFiga - "i could never be a thug, they dont dress this well"--Malice of the Clipse
I play the bullshit from the backseat champ
Yea I'm in the backseat still got the seat back
Feet back stay from where the fake be at
Niggaz snitch for the shine where the patience at
Nigga make his own brother face his back
Give love and take it back
Good grief man this world is quite heavy on my aching back
Cops killing for crack you know the story snakes eat rats
Face the facts you can't change him can't shoot it if you can't aim it
Can't miss him if he kill you then you can't blame him
That's just how the dice roll when you can't fade him
Get too deep up in that water and they can't save ya
Me I come out of that water like I was just bathing
And watch my step on a wet pavement
Yea I'm from the hood so I rep 'em where I can't take em
Holly Grove Holly Grove was his last statement
So nigga get that look off your face
And recognize you got a crook in the place
They call me W-E-E crooked letter Y I'm so high
I skeet skeet in any nigga dime like she's mine
Streetsweeper in the back of the hatch make me pop the latch
Leave you bloody with the cops to match
Bullet holes in ya from the chopper blast
Like... Ha ha
That's bullet holes in your sneakers got you hoppin back
It all stop when they hit you in ya top and back
No cocking back silly motherfucker you ain't heard bout this
The clip sink down to the dick
That's a automatic shotty from a drum they call tommy
Garunteed to get you bitches from by me
When I hit every piece of ya physical body he leakin'
Mortimer is no longer leapin' he sleepin'
While you pussy niggaz is sleepin he thinkin
Deep in thought the boy ain't even linkin
Bob Marley got me stinkin
Stackin figures I'm standin firm life's a slinky
Pipes is filled with crack cocaine
And the dope go inside of the veins from where I came
Though I bear a name only one call live with
Coach they won't knock me off my pivot forget it
I'm sicker with it
Pick a city buy a condo find a fine hoe let some time go chill
What you know about a bongo having her mind goOver a convo about dough
Nothing! Man the four wheelers look so good on the sand
Tee or tanktop pocket fan
Pocket knife no handgun in sight
Just that rat tat tat tat tat tat tat tat BOOM!
Ha ha tonight I might just boost my feature price
Cuz to each its own and the lights is bright
And I'm feelin like Mike at a Tyson fight
I'm from Cita house big momma's house
She told me to shoot ya right after I knock ya out
And he ain't gettin up after them shots if you hit him in the right spot
Hold up the beat might drop
- Apr 25, 2006 02:02pm by Lucidialect
I wouldn't buy a Lil Wayne album. Just my personal taste. But, I do think he's sick with the wordplay. Dude's got skills for sure, and I never mind catching a verse of his. But I'd never bump it in my whip.
Getting back to the point of this thread, I have my favorite rappers, and I hope they never blow up. One's music content has to shift to be what mainstream wants. Any artists that were my favorite, and then blew up, I just didn't like what their music became.
God bless the underground and the creativity it generates. No more/no less crap and bullshit than you'll find on the surface. Skills are sharper, cats are hungry, music's more potent and creative. And, the same cats I didn't like after they blew up, they deserved the success they got. But they lost that fire.
- Apr 25, 2006 02:35pm by JKR70 - [img:66e766d8cb]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/JKR70/LVSIGNATUREBANNER.jpg[/img:66e766d8cb]
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There is NO questioning that his style and patterning have been stepped up, but correct me if im wrong, the bulk of his fanbase are young and impressionable, and by that rationale, if they are young, they are most likely not that mentally mature, or fully educated, therfore "hit a nigga 20 times" to most of them is "yea thats right man,I would "hit a nigga 20 times", if he was fucking with me" You see em all the time, at the mall by foot locker, on the block, they look young and mad at the world, I catch foul looks from these young gangster types, and think wow, they feel the need to give me a stare, ME, I look about as threatening as the skinny guy from that show "Whos line is it anyway" my point is that these type of songs, in my opinion, fuel fires that are already burning fine off of the strength of other problems in these younger peoples lives, be it living conditions, financial, or just feeeling like an outcast.
That being said, Im not talking about censoring these songs as I believe in FREEDOM OF SPEECH, straight up, FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION, straight up, I just think that now that Lil Wayne isnt poor,and doesnt have to live in a bad enviorment, he CAN let it go, its like that group the DEFTONES (an alt rock type band) the lead singers like 30 and still sings about teen angst, gimme a break, Lil Wayne has evolved in style, evolved in patterning and his confidence is at an all time high, well ,he can go ahead and and let bygones be bygones, I got the picture painted many tracks ago, about his "gangsta street cred" I do have to say that the last lyrics posted by STIK made me think, and were dope, I just dont think he needs to purpetuate violence in our youth, their mad enough and to a degree, have every reason to be, Im just tired of irresponsible flame fanners, and that goes for sex, and violence.
Just two cents from someone whos been poor, been mad, and been raised in a bad area(albeit not as bad as some,29th and troost), I let it go, and am thankful I am no longer in those conditions and no longer feel the need to be "hard".
Peace-
- Apr 25, 2006 05:11pm by StikFiga - "i could never be a thug, they dont dress this well"--Malice of the Clipse
[quote:82a0b236d7="JKR70"]There is NO questioning that his style and patterning have been stepped up, but correct me if im wrong, the bulk of his fanbase are young and impressionable, and by that rationale, if they are young, they are most likely not that mentally mature, or fully educated, therfore "hit a nigga 20 times" to most of them is "yea thats right man,I would "hit a nigga 20 times", if he was fucking with me" You see em all the time, at the mall by foot locker, on the block, they look young and mad at the world, I catch foul looks from these young gangster types, and think wow, they feel the need to give me a stare, ME, I look about as threatening as the skinny guy from that show "Whos line is it anyway" my point is that these type of songs, in my opinion, fuel fires that are already burning fine off of the strength of other problems in these younger peoples lives, be it living conditions, financial, or just feeeling like an outcast.
That being said, Im not talking about censoring these songs as I believe in FREEDOM OF SPEECH, straight up, FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION, straight up, I just think that now that Lil Wayne isnt poor,and doesnt have to live in a bad enviorment, he CAN let it go, its like that group the DEFTONES (an alt rock type band) the lead singers like 30 and still sings about teen angst, gimme a break, Lil Wayne has evolved in style, evolved in patterning and his confidence is at an all time high, well ,he can go ahead and and let bygones be bygones, I got the picture painted many tracks ago, about his "gangsta street cred" I do have to say that the last lyrics posted by STIK made me think, and were dope, I just dont think he needs to purpetuate violence in our youth, their mad enough and to a degree, have every reason to be, Im just tired of irresponsible flame fanners, and that goes for sex, and violence.
Just two cents from someone whos been poor, been mad, and been raised in a bad area(albeit not as bad as some,29th and troost), I let it go, and am thankful I am no longer in those conditions and no longer feel the need to be "hard".
Peace-[/quote:82a0b236d7]
thats real, cant argue with that.
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[quote:d528ca3f13="phism"]i like saigon's verse on mark ronson's remix of d'angelo's "devil's pie" (the one over the stokes beat p.s. fuck that band)... i don't know, he's really hit or miss for me, but i think part of it would be solved if he had more consistent beats. i've mostly only heard that one anti-50 mixtape whatever it was called.[/quote:d528ca3f13]
So you're basing an opinion of beat consistency off of a mixtape? [color=yellow:d528ca3f13]Warning Shots[/color:d528ca3f13] and [color=yellow:d528ca3f13]The Greates Story Never Told[/color:d528ca3f13] both have nice beats, and a variety of styles showcasing his versatility.
- Apr 26, 2006 12:41am by MILES - [url]http://www.MilesBonny.com/[/url] Location: KCK
"Weezy,
Allergic to winter,
Hot"
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Anyone ever heard of Crooked I?
- Apr 26, 2006 02:14am by phism
[quote:c63c6c2b8a="JDFlow"][quote:c63c6c2b8a="phism"]i like saigon's verse on mark ronson's remix of d'angelo's "devil's pie" (the one over the stokes beat p.s. fuck that band)... i don't know, he's really hit or miss for me, but i think part of it would be solved if he had more consistent beats. i've mostly only heard that one anti-50 mixtape whatever it was called.[/quote:c63c6c2b8a]
So you're basing an opinion of beat consistency off of a mixtape? [color=yellow:c63c6c2b8a]Warning Shots[/color:c63c6c2b8a] and [color=yellow:c63c6c2b8a]The Greates Story Never Told[/color:c63c6c2b8a] both have nice beats, and a variety of styles showcasing his versatility.[/quote:c63c6c2b8a]
i was never trying to talk shit on him, i just am saying i haven't heard enough to decide what i think.
- Apr 26, 2006 02:29am by MILES - [url]http://www.MilesBonny.com/[/url] Location: KCK
"the flame in him to spark the masses" - titanium frame
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[quote:49848d2ef3="phism"]i was never trying to talk shit on him, i just am saying i haven't heard enough to decide what i think.[/quote:49848d2ef3]
gotcha, definately give ol boy a chance.
