Topic: How do KC Hip Hoppers keep their community together?
- Dec 26, 2007 07:57am by MILES - [url]http://www.MilesBonny.com/[/url] Location: KCK
in my recent interview with KCUR, I was asked about our "scene"
( I know, the dreaded "scene" debate) But I'm wondering how you would have answered the question...
[b:166c8b6b67]"Local hip hop scenes, especially in kansas city, depend on a local hip hop community. How do Kansas City Hip Hoppers keep their community together?"[/b:166c8b6b67]
- Dec 26, 2007 07:46pm by swayzorbladez - www.myspace.com/swayzorspitsbladez
It's easy with support from the peanut, 90.1 show me mix show, Producer and MC battles coming up, and good pitch articles about our "scene".. AND!! this website most importantly 🙂
- Dec 26, 2007 10:26pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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I think our sense of community is deeper than any weekly, radio program or periodical.
I think our respect and support of one another is made manifest in HH+HW, The Show Me Mixshow, etc. That's what truly makes the ancillary stuff special.
That respect and support is what binds us.
And what I think will keep us fairly cohesive.
- Dec 27, 2007 12:20am by NRG - livin the art that is life !
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CONSISTENCY IS THE KEY TO ANY COMMUNITY!
Artists:
against all odds, pursuing their craft, enduring numerous setbacks, disappointments, life changes, waxing & waning support, amazingly continue to create
Supporters
inspite of less money, time, energy, boredom etc continue to find in themselves the $$, time, energy, excitement, curiosity to show up, pay, listen, celebrate, support and be proud of the artists and their creativity
Promoters
despite the bad rep, bad deals, personal income losses, shady trappins
of the entertainment business, continue to be inspired by artists, believe all their efforts to conceive of, plan, setup, promote, and present entertainment opportunities to the people will somehow BREAKEVEN and GO OFF WITHOUT A HITCH, BE NON VIOLENT, BE AN EVENT TO REMEMBER
Club Owners
continue to provide their space hoping against all odds, that they can pay their rent each month, hoping that artists, the people, the promoters, all their suppliers, their staff, will join in this delicate dance, keep cool heads, respect each other and even enjoy the results of the contribution made by everyone doing their part.
Hiphopkc.com helps simply by being here for anybody who wants to chat, promote, collaborate or dream.
- Dec 27, 2007 04:31pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
www.emceereach.com
www.myspace.com/reach
www.twitter.com/emceereach
www.youtube.com/reachtv
www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic2
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[quote:5d41439c53="NRG"]Promoters
despite the bad rep, bad deals, personal income losses, shady trappins
of the entertainment business, continue to be inspired by artists, believe all their efforts to conceive of, plan, setup, promote, and present entertainment opportunities to the people will somehow BREAKEVEN and GO OFF WITHOUT A HITCH, BE NON VIOLENT, BE AN EVENT TO REMEMBER[/quote:5d41439c53]
Chuuuuuuurch!!!
This is who I will be in 2008!!!
Hell I'm already wearing the shoes...
But whomever keeps leaking information about my events...
CUT IT OUT!!!
😉
- Dec 27, 2007 08:02pm by DJSKEME Location: Grandview, MO
Sup with good ole ENTHUSIASM?? Maybe it's just me, but I'm seeing a lack of it, aside from the coordinators like NRG, Reach and Miles.
Like NRG said, the scene needs to be excited about the fruits of their own labor and that will attract needed support from the non-hip hop community.
Support in all lanes... Attend events, spread the word about local albums, and show the radio that more support is needed from them like what Shorty's mixtape has contributed.
- Dec 27, 2007 11:20pm by Whatsgood
Good music will keep everyone together and enough of this cry baby shit. I've noticed if someone has a difference of opinnon than others people are quick to get feelings.
- Dec 27, 2007 11:54pm by NRG - livin the art that is life !
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[quote:f975133299="NRG"]CONSISTENCY IS THE KEY TO ANY COMMUNITY!
Artists:
against all odds, pursuing their craft, enduring numerous setbacks, disappointments, life changes, waxing & waning support, amazingly continue to create
Supporters
inspite of less money, time, energy, boredom etc continue to find in themselves the $$, time, energy, excitement, curiosity to show up, pay, listen, celebrate, support and be proud of the artists and their creativity
Promoters
despite the bad rep, bad deals, personal income losses, shady trappins
of the entertainment business, continue to be inspired by artists, believe all their efforts to conceive of, plan, setup, promote, and present entertainment opportunities to the people will somehow BREAKEVEN and GO OFF WITHOUT A HITCH, BE NON VIOLENT, BE AN EVENT TO REMEMBER
Club Owners
continue to provide their space hoping against all odds, that they can pay their rent each month, hoping that artists, the people, the promoters, all their suppliers, their staff, will join in this delicate dance, keep cool heads, respect each other and even enjoy the results of the contribution made by everyone doing their part.
Hiphopkc.com helps simply by being here for anybody who wants to chat, promote, collaborate or dream.[/quote:f975133299]
I am adding to this list the following:
REAL CRITIQUES OF EACH OTHERS CREATIVITY
blowing smoke at each other keeps all of our contributions stuck and not advancing.
I am speaking of the bonds that are created between those who will give honest feedback from their experience and knowledge with an eye on growth for the person they are talking to.
Conversely the person receiving this honest critique is listening with a mind geared towards discovery about themselves and their creativity.
In this exchange personal ego and feelings are not Key, discovery and growth are the goals.
My wish for everyone in 2008 is that we get focused on evolving our creativity, exploration of avante gard, out of the box, boarder expression, and open minded tolerance for each person's point of view.
to me, these are the benchmark qualities of growth, creativity, evolution, community, and beauty.
love to hear from you on any or all of what I have expressed here.
try out givng some honest criticism on me you might like it. I can always use solid insights.
- Dec 28, 2007 01:53am by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing
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WE ARE, Kansas City is [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]!
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Personally I think its who you know. I know some kids that tried to "get on" and certain people who were in the position to let them perform or do a show said no.
While people like me, (a weak emcee) got a show or two with no problem.
I think and feel its all about who you hang out with.
For instance people might feel like they know me from the crazy, ill, whack, immature, uncalled for, or out of place things I say here. But when they meet me they find out that I am way chill and a cool kat!
But there is this underlying, unspoken hate going on in KC. People act like if you say something bad you're a hater. If you don't agree with the majority, your a hater or out of touch. the thing most people figured out about me is that Im real and I dont care what you think.
Call it bad business ethics, call it keeping it real. but I will tell you what I think and I won't sugar coat it.
I also have no problem admitting if and when I am wrong.
But there is no "stick togther ness" I've seen Rock bands invite other rock bands to help them promote a show. Emcees love to hog the stage and out shine everyone else.
I don't know exactley what I am trying to say, but I would love it if there was more unity. We got kids from 51st hating on Westport kids and South side hating on JoCo. Nobody ever does anything as a movement. Its all solo, and what can you contribute?
I wish there was more unity in KC Hip Hop.
Please let me know what I can do to help move this!
- Dec 28, 2007 02:22am by dirge
^I agree with a lot of that Ace. I think that there is a certain amount of clickishness here and it's true that everyone doesn't get along. Although, I think that variety is better for music than an idea of 100 percent unity.
I don't know how much of a true community stands in Kansas City as far as Hip Hop goes but for me and the people i've been involved with musically, it's been about establishing our own thing instead of going with the pack.
There are a bunch of emcees who don't get shows and write ups that I feel should. Community in my eyes isn't just about bigging up yourself, it's giving propers to the next person who deserves it so that they can shine a little. It would be the idea of what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Although, in this age of DIY rap, the hustle and glorified self promoters, it takes more than just word of mouth to get people interested in another's art.
Is there a real community in Hip Hop in Kansas City? Sure! Yet, for every Hip Hop and Hotwings, Record Bar show, Feel Sexy, etc., there are a bunch of people who don't feel like they belong in that realm. I think that they should look into doing their own thing and forget what eveybody else is doing.
- Dec 28, 2007 02:53am by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing
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WE ARE, Kansas City is [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]!
http://crushproofstudio.bandcamp.com/ Location: Downtown, Kansas City, Mo.
[quote:c3e1aa3278="dirge"]
Is there a real community in Hip Hop in Kansas City? Sure! Yet, for every Hip Hop and Hotwings, Record Bar show, Feel Sexy, etc., there are a bunch of people who don't feel like they belong in that realm. I think that they should look into doing their own thing and forget what eveybody else is doing.[/quote:c3e1aa3278]
This is what I mean.
You can't be "completely" solo in a community. I mean for instance.
Look @ the emcee battle. It started out as a producer battle, right?
I went and screwed that up, now I am completely un included in the whole ordeal. Nobody was like okay, lets see them do it live. The person I was "beefing" with "won" or thinks he did, and the whole thing was over.
Now, I am unincluded in the whole event, and this kid is playing all the cuts for the emcee battle?
I found out about the producer battle from a flier. So I feel......
I am not a part of "that" community. Its being ran by one "group" that don't really need, feel, or want me.
So do I feel left out? Yeah, in a way.
Will I attend and support? Yes!
But how willing do you think I will be to "give" any of this "group" $$$ (merch in the future) or Beats$. Not near nutter! shall I hold a grudge?
*****personally I wouldn't trust anyone who wasn't down with the Boom Bap, when it wasn't POP, to play shit for me. but I guess thats what the people want! 🙄
- Dec 28, 2007 03:46am by dirge
Here's the lowdown on this entire battle thing.
I wanted to do an emcee battle. First, it was Sike, myself and Ubi talking about doing it.
Toon and I talked and we were going to run it together. Toon booked the date and we figured a prize (which was not 1000 dollars.)
We were going to try to have a performance after but it didn't work out. We were discussing trying to get Mac Lethal to close the show and maybe someone before.
Then reach had his show where D Will, Johnny Quest and Lenny D did their beat showcase. I figuerd it would be cool to do the exact same thing at the battle. We talked about D Will, Nez Beat and Trystyl for ours.
It was an invite only thing that doesn't seem like it's even going to happen.
The battle idea was a great idea. To be honest with you, some egos got in the way and i'd be surprised if it even goes down.
- Dec 28, 2007 05:50am by grassnasty Location: overland park
i dont know if i speak for all my buddies but i personally feel that the community as a whole is very welcoming...obviously i havent met everyone or maybe we havent been around long enough but i havent felt any "hate"
i think that if everyone focuses on what they can individually bring to the table, dinner could be delicious....
its easy to talk about more unity in kc hip hop....but its hard to even comprehend what that entails...what moves would it take for someone to sit back and go, wow, kc hip hop is actually unified...there is an endless list of things that would never satisfy everyone....and now, im trying to come to a conclusion of some kind...i dont often write too much on forums...
all i know is what i can do....i love to write and perform...my buddies swayzorbladez and acetone write and perform...swayzorbladez, blazinbates, and blakgumz make amazing beats...and we arent goin anyplace so if anyone needs us for anything...let us know 🙂
- Dec 28, 2007 06:17am by NRG - livin the art that is life !
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people can unify around any or several ideas without having to be all up in each others faces all the time.
to me there is a misinterpretation of these things
keepin it real
hatin
bein down
down with my crew
unity
community
critique
bizness
structuring business
and on from there. ., , , , , , ,
you aint got to be my best friend to care about my creativity or to offer some insights on how I can improve my shit
its still my shit
you aint got to be down with me only fuck that shit
being down for the growth and productivity for each individual just means shariin your opinion in a way that respects the efforts the other person made to create that shit in the first place.
hell all this click shit gives me a headache so I just choose to ignore it and work with erbody or those who freely work with me
I'm down with forward motion, evolution, insightful thoughts
if that is you well. . . . . . . .
but I don't require that you love me or nuthin let start with a chat about our visions and productivity.
life is too short to be hatin on anybody less their earned that shit from you.
only time anybody else matters is when you say / think they do til then its an even playing field and equal opportunity environment.
stop wearing you hearts on your sleeves choose your creativity every time keep shit moving
peace
nrg
- Dec 28, 2007 02:34pm by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing
www.dipity.com/acefadal
WE ARE, Kansas City is [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]!
http://crushproofstudio.bandcamp.com/ Location: Downtown, Kansas City, Mo.
[quote:0100b73652="NRG"]people can unify around any or several ideas without having to be all up in each others faces all the time.
to me there is a misinterpretation of these things
keepin it real
hatin
bein down
down with my crew
unity
community
critique
bizness
structuring business
and on from there. ., , , , , , ,
you aint got to be my best friend to care about my creativity or to offer some insights on how I can improve my shit
its still my shit
you aint got to be down with me only fuck that shit
being down for the growth and productivity for each individual just means shariin your opinion in a way that respects the efforts the other person made to create that shit in the first place.
hell all this click shit gives me a headache so I just choose to ignore it and work with erbody or those who freely work with me
I'm down with forward motion, evolution, insightful thoughts
if that is you well. . . . . . . .
but I don't require that you love me or nuthin let start with a chat about our visions and productivity.
life is too short to be hatin on anybody less their earned that shit from you.
only time anybody else matters is when you say / think they do til then its an even playing field and equal opportunity environment.
stop wearing you hearts on your sleeves choose your creativity every time keep shit moving
peace
nrg[/quote:0100b73652]
Thats whats up!
- Dec 28, 2007 04:46pm by DR.T - nuts .. haha Location: KCMO
[size=24:55f419214d][color=darkblue:55f419214d]FOR THE LOVE OF GOD....LISTEN TO THIS MP3[/color:55f419214d][/size:55f419214d]
http://www.zshare.net/audio/59787386dd8fd7/
- Dec 28, 2007 07:01pm by grassnasty Location: overland park
good talk.....i agree with you. especially bout branchin out and collaborating more
- Dec 28, 2007 08:00pm by trystyl - www.myspace.com/trystyl Location: KCMO
[quote:3b1c35b93f="AceFadal"]
Look @ the emcee battle. It started out as a producer battle, right?
I went and screwed that up, now I am completely un included in the whole ordeal. Nobody was like okay, lets see them do it live. The person I was "beefing" with "won" or thinks he did, and the whole thing was over.
Now, I am unincluded in the whole event, and this kid is playing all the cuts for the emcee battle?
[/quote:3b1c35b93f]
I was asked to play the beats for the battle long before it was even a 'go'.
And i will be extremely surprised if the battle even happens. don't feel sour, like you are not included... talk to the next person doing a show and ask if you can showcase some beats.
There is no beef, i just felt you needed to tone down the shit talking a little. No love lost... it was stupid on my part to even get involved,
At blams house i was very happy to see joco cats and midtown people coming together and chillin... it is always a nice community time... and the new faces in the scene are people to watch.
- Dec 28, 2007 09:13pm by NRG - livin the art that is life !
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why is it not gonna happen? is there some need that if fulfilled could get it closer to happening?
Ask the community to aid it seems like folk really wanna see this jump off
sooooooo
what's the skinny share!
- Dec 28, 2007 10:31pm by DR.T - nuts .. haha Location: KCMO
*Sucks teeth*....fine then.....
I'll do this my self....
