Topic: New Rules Pt II
- Nov 7, 2007 05:33pm by Whatsgood
No personal attacks just debate using actual FACTS
Supposedly my views are the same as the Bush admin? Nope.. Mine are the same as Ron Pauls. AceFadal don't you support Ron Paul?
US interventional policies is the reason we were attacked on 9-11! Watch and learn http://youtube.com/watch?v=AD7dnFDdwu0
- Nov 7, 2007 05:40pm by Whatsgood
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Listen and Leaaaarn
- Nov 7, 2007 05:54pm by ldstroy - www.innatesounds.com
Please stop embarrassing yourself. Nobody's taking the bait anymore.
- Nov 7, 2007 05:57pm by Whatsgood
Nice to see you add in the debate. So can anyone use factual evidence to challenge my stance that it was our interventional foregin policy that caused us to get attacked?
- Nov 7, 2007 05:59pm by ldstroy - www.innatesounds.com
stick a fork in it son.
- Nov 7, 2007 06:02pm by Whatsgood
I'll take that as a "no".
- Nov 7, 2007 07:30pm by Distorted_Mastermind - I reject your reality and substitute my own.
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Have you an answer for put options or the military maneuvers the failing flight school pilot was able to pull off?
Ex-Commercial Pilot, Russ Wittenberg
[quote:ecd64ee91b]"For a guy to just jump into the cockpit and fly like an ace is impossible - there is not one chance in a thousand."[/quote:ecd64ee91b]
- Nov 7, 2007 08:10pm by Whatsgood
Reach those dudes went through months of flight school requesting to learn just how to take off and fly but didnt want to learn how to land. I blame some of this on the airflight school
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[quote:6b5fe2c4bc]Have you an answer for put options or the military maneuvers the failing flight school pilot was able to pull off?
Ex-Commercial Pilot, Russ Wittenberg
[quote:6b5fe2c4bc]"For a guy to just jump into the cockpit and fly like an ace is impossible - there is not one chance in a thousand."[/quote:6b5fe2c4bc][/quote:6b5fe2c4bc]
Each one, Teach one.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYfhC9ft_hk[/url]
Whatsgood do you think thare are any conspiracies, concerning 9-11?
Ron Paul on 9/11
[url]http://www.reason.com/blog/show/120338.html[/url]
And I'm still not sold on Ron Paul. I'm ready for a Duel Party ticket.
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[url]http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/ground_zero_emt_told_build_7_was_to_be_pulled.htm[/url]
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- Nov 7, 2007 09:00pm by ldstroy - www.innatesounds.com
The official story has so many holes in it, it is hard to know where to begin.
- Nov 7, 2007 09:36pm by Whatsgood
[quote:da889da392="AceFadal"][quote:da889da392]Have you an answer for put options or the military maneuvers the failing flight school pilot was able to pull off?
Ex-Commercial Pilot, Russ Wittenberg
[quote:da889da392]"For a guy to just jump into the cockpit and fly like an ace is impossible - there is not one chance in a thousand."[/quote:da889da392][/quote:da889da392]
Each one, Teach one.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYfhC9ft_hk[/url]
Whatsgood do you think thare are any conspiracies, concerning 9-11?
Ron Paul on 9/11
[url]http://www.reason.com/blog/show/120338.html[/url]
And I'm still not sold on Ron Paul. I'm ready for a Duel Party ticket.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6QV6LK8j1Q&eurl[/url]
[img:da889da392]http://www.911blogger.com/files/911Iie.gif[/img:da889da392]
[url]http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/ground_zero_emt_told_build_7_was_to_be_pulled.htm[/url]
[img:da889da392]http://www.infowars.com/newimages/Banners/text_911.gif[/img:da889da392][/quote:da889da392]
Theres plenty of 9-11 Conspiracies but I'm not buyin our own government did it okay these people weren't even smart enough to drop a bottle of water in New Orlenas durin Katrina.
Taken from your link
"Reason: The position of the Student Scholars is that 9/11 was executed by the U.S. government. Do you agree or disagree with that?
Paul: I'd say there's no evidence of that."
I don't think RP is suggesting the government attacked us on 9-11 but rather suggesting that the government was responsible in the sense that we've intangled ourselves so much in there policies.
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[quote:8c00f3762e="Whatsgood"]Reach those dudes went through months of flight school requesting to learn just how to take off and fly but didnt want to learn how to land. I blame some of this on the airflight school[/quote:8c00f3762e]
Hanjour was told not to continue his pursuit of a pilot's license.
He was a horrible pilot.
He had trouble soloing a Cessna 150.
To put that in perspective for you...
He would've had to fly a plane 6 times as long and 150 times as heavy...
Three times as fast.
Not just fly it, but execute military maneuvers in it.
You believe a struggling flight school pilot could've done that?
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[quote:4652a89280="Reach."][quote:4652a89280="Whatsgood"]Reach those dudes went through months of flight school requesting to learn just how to take off and fly but didnt want to learn how to land. I blame some of this on the airflight school[/quote:4652a89280]
Hanjour was told not to continue his pursuit of a pilot's license.
He was a horrible pilot.
He had trouble soloing a Cessna 150.
To put that in perspective for you...
He would've had to fly a plane 6 times as long and 150 times as heavy...
Three times as fast.
Not just fly it, but execute military maneuvers in it.
You believe a struggling flight school pilot could've done that?[/quote:4652a89280]
I was able to solo a single engine prop plane after 11 hours of training....taking off, maneuvers, and landing.
It would be safe to say I can fly better than Hanjour.
I can say positively, there is no way I could maneuver a jet.
- Nov 8, 2007 02:25am by Whatsgood
[quote:8196c97a62="dublow"][quote:8196c97a62="Reach."][quote:8196c97a62="Whatsgood"]Reach those dudes went through months of flight school requesting to learn just how to take off and fly but didnt want to learn how to land. I blame some of this on the airflight school[/quote:8196c97a62]
Hanjour was told not to continue his pursuit of a pilot's license.
He was a horrible pilot.
He had trouble soloing a Cessna 150.
To put that in perspective for you...
He would've had to fly a plane 6 times as long and 150 times as heavy...
Three times as fast.
Not just fly it, but execute military maneuvers in it.
You believe a struggling flight school pilot could've done that?[/quote:8196c97a62]
I was able to solo a single engine prop plane after 11 hours of training....taking off, maneuvers, and landing.
It would be safe to say I can fly better than Hanjour.
I can say positively, there is no way I could maneuver a jet.[/quote:8196c97a62]
You got a pilots lisence? Thats pretty neat actually i'm scared as fuck to fly.
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[quote:7992142c57="Whatsgood"]Theres plenty of 9-11 Conspiracies but I'm not buyin our own government did it okay these people weren't even smart enough to drop a bottle of water in New Orlenas durin Katrina.[/quote:7992142c57]
That was planned. They (the gov.) were hoping people died.
By Eunice Moscoso, Washington
December 8, 2005
VICTIMS of hurricane Katrina have told a US congressional bipartisan select committee that they were held at gunpoint, treated like criminals and left to sleep next to dead bodies.
They said the Government at all levels failed to protect them as they tried to escape floodwaters.
In an emotional and sometimes contentious hearing, most witnesses said they believed racism played a key part in the aftermath of the disaster and that they were still suffering without basic services and feared that promised help and housing would never arrive.
Patricia Thompson, a New Orleans resident, told a harrowing tale of trying to escape floodwaters with her family only to be neglected and mistreated by police.
"We slept next to dead bodies. We slept on streets … next to human faeces and urine," she said. "The way we were treated by police was demoralising and inhuman. They made everybody lie on the ground with their hands on their heads, even babies."
Leah Hodges, said with tears in her eyes that people were allowed to die as New Orleans was turned into a "mass grave." She called the response an "ethnic cleansing" and an "act of genocide" and said police screamed racial slurs at family members who were trying to get help for sick neighbours.
The hearing was prompted in part by a request from Democrat congresswoman Cynthia McKinney for a hearing on "African-American voices" related to hurricane Katrina.
She said a history of racism in the region should not be ignored, including reported incidents of racial profiling and racist comments by police in Jefferson Parish.
One heated exchange during the hearing came between Republican congressman Christopher Shays and Dyan French, a New Orleans resident who stayed in the city throughout the hurricane and its aftermath.
Congressman Shays said he did not believe Ms French's claim that the levees in the city had been bombed on purpose and asked her if she could see the levees from her home. She took offence at the question.
This is apicture of the last time this guy (on the right) said something factual.
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- Nov 8, 2007 04:59am by Whatsgood
The way Katrina was handled makes me weary of universal healthcare I have a feeling somehow the poor will get screwed over somehow.
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NUTHIN NEW ABOUT THAT ANYWHERE IN THE WHOLE WORLD good point
poor= screwed yeap that works
- Nov 8, 2007 06:29pm by ldstroy - www.innatesounds.com
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- Nov 8, 2007 08:32pm by Distorted_Mastermind - I reject your reality and substitute my own.
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Kenye's statement could have easily been George Bush doesn't care about the people.
I honestly don't see how anyone could back that comment. It was inappropriate, inconsiderate, and flat out ignorant for the circumstances. G dub can't control the weather and Katrina caused enough damage it's unrealistic to think one organization could get everything under control.
Some people will reach out their hands and others will sit back and bitch that the people helping aren't doing enough
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[quote:6026946885="Distorted_Mastermind"]Kenye's statement could have easily been George Bush doesn't care about the people.
I honestly don't see how anyone could back that comment. It was inappropriate, inconsiderate, and flat out ignorant for the circumstances. G dub can't control the weather and Katrina caused enough damage it's unrealistic to think one organization could get everything under control.
Some people will reach out their hands and others will sit back and bitch that the people helping aren't doing enough[/quote:6026946885]
Blah blah blah!
A lesson son.
You are as blind as the rest of them.
The rest of the world disagrees with you.
If he does care, how has he shown it.
Its like. "God bless the USA!" Why? ....He has, how have YOU thanked him? Have you thaned him? no.
anyway
duh!
[b:6026946885]When Bush Knew[/b:6026946885]
At 4:00 PM on Sunday, August 28th, "National Hurricane Center Meteorologist Chris Lauer said Katrina was still on track to hit the New Orleans area as a devastating Category 5 hurricane as its eye comes ashore" on Monday morning, August 29th, Gordon Russell wrote in The Times-Picayune.
Also, on Sunday, August 28th, Max Mayfield, still "worried about Hurricane Katrina ... even talked about the force of Katrina during a video conference call to President Bush at his ranch in Crawford, Texas."
"In his first extensive interview since resigning as FEMA director" on September 12th, Michael D. Brown "declined to blame President Bush or the White House for his removal or for the flawed response," New York Times' David D. Kirkpatrick and Scott Shane wrote September 15, 2005.
"But Mr. Brown's account, in which he described making 'a blur of calls' all week to Mr. Chertoff, Mr. Card and Mr. Hagin, suggested that Mr. Bush, or at least his top aides, were informed early and repeatedly by the top federal official at the scene that state and local authorities were overwhelmed and that the overall response was going badly," they wrote.
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[b:6026946885]Caught on Tape[/b:6026946885]
The Associated Press reported March 1, 2006, that film footage it had obtained, "along with seven days of transcripts of briefings ... show in excruciating detail that while federal officials anticipated the tragedy that unfolded in New Orleans and elsewhere along the Gulf Coast, they were fatally slow to realize they had not mustered enough resources to deal with the unprecedented disaster.
"Linked by secure video, Bush expressed a confidence on Aug. 28 that starkly contrasted with the dire warnings his disaster chief and numerous federal, state and local officials provided during the four days before the storm."
"In dramatic and agonizing terms, federal disaster officials warned President Bush and his homeland security chief that Hurricane Katrina could breach levees, put lives at risk in New Orleans' Superdome and overwhelm rescuers, according to video footage," AP reported. "Bush didn't ask any questions during the final briefing before Katrina struck on Aug. 29, but he assured soon-to-be-battered state officials: 'We are fully prepared'." Video tape link on page. Also see more media coverage
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[b:6026946885]Flooding in New Orleans[/b:6026946885]
On Monday, August 29, 2005, "New Orleans Mayor C. Ray Nagin said on NBC's Today Show there was already 'significant flooding' in the city, most of which lies below sea level. ... 'I've gotten reports this morning that there's already water coming over some of the levee systems,' he said."
Late on Monday morning, a "large section of the vital 17th Street Canal levee, where it connects to the brand new 'hurricane proof' Old Hammond Highway bridge," gave way "in Bucktown after Katrina's fiercest winds were well north," Doug MacCash and James O.Byrne reported in The Times-Picayune. "The breach sent a churning sea of water from Lake Pontchartrain coursing across Lakeview and into Mid-City, Carrollton, Gentilly, City Park and neighborhoods farther south and east."
Inexplicable is the fact that President Bush incorrectly told reporters in his September 2, 2005, press conference in Biloxi, Mississippi, that the "levees broke on Tuesday in New Orleans."
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[b:6026946885]When White House Actually Knew About Flooding[/b:6026946885]
"Congressional investigators have now learned that an eyewitness account of the flooding" from FEMA official Marty Bahamonde "reached the Homeland Security Department's headquarters starting at 9:27 p.m. the day before, and the White House itself at midnight," Eric Lipton wrote in the February 10, 2006, New York Times.
Michael Brown said in a February 9, 2006, telephone interview that "he personally notified the White House of this news that night, though he declined to identify the official he spoke to," Lipton wrote.
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[b:6026946885]Vacation as Usual[/b:6026946885]
"On the day after Hurricane Katrina was declared to be not as bad as originally feared, it became clear that the effects of the storm had been, after all, beyond devastation," a New York Times Op-Ed announced August 31, 2005. "But this seems like the wrong moment to dwell on fault-finding, or even to point out that it took what may become the worst natural disaster in American history to pry President Bush out of his vacation."
"George Bush stayed on vacation. He didn't get back to work. When the worst natural disaster in our nation's history attacked us, George Bush STAYED ON VACATION. Why did the federal government stumble so badly on Monday and Tuesday and Wednesday? Because on Monday and Tuesday and Wednesday, George Bush stayed on vacation in Crawford, Texas. On Monday and Tuesday and Wednesday and Thursday and Friday, vice president Dick Cheney STAYED ON VACATION in Jackson, Wyoming. On Tuesday and Wednesday and Thursday, Sec. of State Condi Rice WENT ON VACATION in New York City and went to a splashy Broadway musical and bought obscenely expensive shoes. She went shopping," Michael Giltz of AMERICAblog wrote September 5, 2005.
"No need to explain why the President was golfing on Tuesday, playing guitar with country singers on a Tuesday while New Orleans died. Which would be fine if not for the inconvenient fact that the levees were breached on Monday, discovered on Monday, and confirmed on Monday. Monday was the day the levees broke," Izzy wrote September 3, 2005, in the blog Unbossed.
Moreover, "there were no calls for national unity, no experts explaining the state of things, no marshaling of buses and boats and helicopters. Our national leaders were absent. Our national pastimes went on. The experts who were on the news did not speak of the levee, the pumps, the flood, the emergency. They spoke of the revenue, the casinos, the oil, the markets," Izzy added.
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[b:6026946885]Cheney Came Back "Early"[/b:6026946885]
When Cheney was asked by reporter Roger Simon "why he did not return from his vacation earlier than [Thursday, September 1, 2005,] three days after the hurricane hit, the vice president replied: 'I came back four days early.'
"And you can see why Cheney is so testy," Simon wrote in the September 12, 2005, US News & World Report, "He had to miss four days of his vacation to help a bunch of people who probably had never voted Republican in their lives."
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[b:6026946885]Bush Emerged and Made His Worst Speech Ever[/b:6026946885]
On Tuesday, August 30, 2005, while delivering his third speech "in just over a week defending his Iraq policies," while "standing against a backdrop of the imposing USS Ronald Reagan, the newest aircraft carrier in the Navy's fleet," President Bush answered "growing anti-war protests with a fresh reason for American troops to continue fighting in Iraq: protection of the country's vast oil fields that he said would otherwise fall under the control of terrorist extremists."
It was also announced during the speech that, due to the "devastation wrought by Hurricane Katrina" in the Gulf Coast, he "was cutting his August vacation short to return to Washington to personally oversee the federal response effort."
However, it was not until the following day, on Wednesday, August 31, 2005, long past the time when Katrina had arrived, struck New Orleans, and moved inland away from the Gulf Coast, that President Bush actually made even a cursory 35-minute flyover in Air Force One to view the devastation in Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama.
Note: Newsweek incorrectly reported that President Bush made his flyover on Tuesday, August 30th.
This was "the perfect metaphor for his entire presidency," Arianna Huffington wrote August 31, 2005: "detached, disconnected, and disengaged. Preferring to take in America's suffering -- whether caused by the war in Iraq or Hurricane Katrina -- from a distance. In this case, 2,500 feet."
Upon his arrival in Washington the same day, President Bush "bounced off the helicopter on the White House lawn carrying his dog under his arm (where was that little inner voice saying, 'ditch the dog'?), and came across as an idiot in his address to the nation's television cameras. Partly, this is the trivial matter of the presidential smirk; he often looks as if he is smiling even when he isn't. But it was also his jarringly upbeat tenor. With every word contradicted by the television news pictures of hopeless squalor, he said: 'I'm confident that, with time, you can get your life back in order, new communities will flourish, the great city of New Orleans will be back on its feet, and America will be a stronger place for it.' The next day he made things worse by pleading with Americans: 'Don't buy gas if you don't need it'," John Rentoul wrote in the September 4, 2005, Independent (UK).
A September 1, 2005, editorial in the New York Times commented:
"George W. Bush gave one of the worst speeches of his life yesterday, especially given the level of national distress and the need for words of consolation and wisdom. In what seems to be a ritual in this administration, the president appeared a day later than he was needed. He then read an address of a quality more appropriate for an Arbor Day celebration: a long laundry list of pounds of ice, generators and blankets delivered to the stricken Gulf Coast. He advised the public that anybody who wanted to help should send cash, grinned, and promised that everything would work out in the end."
Source biches
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=George_W._Bush:_Hurricane_Katrina
And shud up if you don't know what your talking about. He don't give a shit about us (poor people), you, your freedom http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/rendition701/video/video_index.html , the Constitution)health care for children.
WTF? Wake up. Stop being kissing the mans ass and making excuses for a sorry excuse for a leader.
You're telling me the most "powerful" man in the World, could'nt do shit for people suffering in a city in the country he runs? What kind of power is that?
It would have taking a mutherfukin phone call to get Greyhound down there. Look at all those non-poor prople in Cali who got help. Now theres flooding in Mexico and do you think hes going to do shit? No!
Your like, "What flooding?"
You don't even hear about it in the mainstream, why cause nobody cares. The flooding is worse than Katrina.
Wake Up.
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[quote:e0a2053153="Distorted_Mastermind"]Kenye's statement could have easily been George Bush doesn't care about the people.[/quote:e0a2053153]
Michael Eric Dyson
[quote:e0a2053153]Kanye said that “George Bush doesn't care about black people.†He wasn't talking about George Bush, the individual. He wasn't speaking about George Bush, the private citizen. He’s speaking about George Bush, the face of the government, George Bush, the face of democracy. He's speaking about George Bush as the symbolic head of a nation that refuses to acknowledge the humanity of black people.[/quote:e0a2053153]
[quote:e0a2053153="Distorted_Mastermind"]I honestly don't see how anyone could back that comment. It was inappropriate, inconsiderate, and flat out ignorant for the circumstances. G dub can't control the weather and Katrina caused enough damage it's unrealistic to think one organization could get everything under control.[/quote:e0a2053153]
I'd ask you to explain, then, why afterward President Bush said no one could've anticipated a breach, when he was in fact warned on the eve of Hurricane Katrina. He didn't bother to ask a single question during this briefing.
I'd ask you to explain, then, why if he had foreknowledge it took so long to send in relief for Katrina victims.
I'd ask you to explain, then, why the government staved off outside help despite their own delays.
- Nov 9, 2007 12:12am by Whatsgood
I can understand the timing of when Kanye said it that was pretty bad while people were drowning and shit Kanye was on a stage in LA or wherever pointing the finger perhaps if he really gave a fuck about those people he'd be down there trying to help rescure or use his millions to pay for buses to help get those people out. I blame Bush and the federal government I also blame the governor and the stupid mayor of New Orlenas (who somehow got re-elected).
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Do we know that Kanye didn't donate monies and time to relief?
That would've been fitting given his sentiments, but I don't know that he spoke entirely out of turn either way.
- Nov 9, 2007 01:03am by Whatsgood
Thats a good point Reach i'd have to speculate that if he actually helped that would have been recorded as Kanye is known for loving attention. DM does make a point why was it Bush didn't care about black people and not people in general? I'm sure there were poor whites & hispanics suffered from the governments incompetence as well. Theres a time and place to point the finger but i'm not sure its while people are still trapped in there homes starving.
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[quote:a6fc82aacb="Whatsgood"]DM does make a point why was it Bush didn't care about black people and not people in general?[/quote:a6fc82aacb]
*Waving to the elephant in the room*
You know about the photo opp. at the 17th Street levee, no?
Where Bush showed up with resources and a scant 24 hours only a single piece of equipment was left behind? Where open air food distribution sites were torn down immediately after cameras were shut off?
- Nov 9, 2007 08:36pm by Whatsgood
[quote:0a0238dab2="Reach."][quote:0a0238dab2="Whatsgood"]DM does make a point why was it Bush didn't care about black people and not people in general?[/quote:0a0238dab2]
*Waving to the elephant in the room*
You know about the photo opp. at the 17th Street levee, no?
Where Bush showed up with resources and a scant 24 hours only a single piece of equipment was left behind? Where open air food distribution sites were torn down immediately after cameras were shut off?[/quote:0a0238dab2]
No, I wasn't aware of that but what does that have to do with him only not caring about black people but rather people in general?
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[quote:fcf01c4ca4="Whatsgood"][quote:fcf01c4ca4="Reach."][quote:fcf01c4ca4="Whatsgood"]DM does make a point why was it Bush didn't care about black people and not people in general?[/quote:fcf01c4ca4]
*Waving to the elephant in the room*
You know about the photo opp. at the 17th Street levee, no?
Where Bush showed up with resources and a scant 24 hours only a single piece of equipment was left behind? Where open air food distribution sites were torn down immediately after cameras were shut off?[/quote:fcf01c4ca4]
No, I wasn't aware of that but what does that have to do with him only not caring about black people but rather people in general?[/quote:fcf01c4ca4]
[quote:fcf01c4ca4="Reach."]Michael Eric Dyson
[quote:fcf01c4ca4]Kanye said that “George Bush doesn't care about black people.†He wasn't talking about George Bush, the individual. He wasn't speaking about George Bush, the private citizen. He’s speaking about George Bush, the face of the government, George Bush, the face of democracy. He's speaking about George Bush as the symbolic head of a nation that refuses to acknowledge the humanity of black people.[/quote:fcf01c4ca4][/quote:fcf01c4ca4]
Same applies to Women, other minority groups, human rights activist, Gitmo, Darfur, Watada (look him up), Amir Rohahr.
He gives two tears, and those are caused by the jalepenos he can't handle.
The subject is Katrina, and since its mostly poor Black people who are suffering the most.......
GW dont care about black Folk!
- Nov 9, 2007 11:58pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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[quote:d95f2105ab="Whatsgood"]
No, I wasn't aware of that but what does that have to do with him only not caring about black people but rather people in general?[/quote:d95f2105ab]
That event underscores the Bush administration's refusal to acknowledge crisis in a storm-devastated city that's nearly 70% Black.
A bi-partisan commission was thwarted by Republicans so they couldn't be called into question about their poor handling of Katrina victims.
Sound anything like a theme to you?
I could go on...
Shall we talk about the illegal military control put in place by Bush's "zero tolerance" policy? You know the one enforced to quell the ALLEGED chaos that ensued in damaged (pre-dominantly Black) regions?
- Nov 10, 2007 01:12am by Whatsgood
Oh I believe ya about Republicans my man. It spoke volumes to me when the top 4 Republican candidates wouldn't attend a debate a few months ago that was for blacks at I believe Morgan State?
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So go Kucinich '08.....
What? I'm just feeling whats comfortable for me.
Just like Hillary.
- Nov 10, 2007 03:42am by Whatsgood
RP was at the debate... FUCK RUDY!
- Nov 10, 2007 08:33am by Reach. - Peace and oneness,
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[quote:880c49a39c="Whatsgood"]Oh I believe ya about Republicans my man. It spoke volumes to me when the top 4 Republican candidates wouldn't attend a debate a few months ago that was for blacks at I believe Morgan State?[/quote:880c49a39c]
They're convinced Black votes aren't significant.