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Topic: MPC-Forums producer jacked by Kanye?

May 21, 2007 05:18pm by Deta!L - I just said that so you would stop bothering me.
that's what the word is... first, Jacpots video on youtube most of us on MPC Forums have seen before, sitting at close to 25,000 views http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiT_90aTneI next, Kanyes joint with Common "black maybe" http://www.sendspace.com/file/8k2ghb what do you think?
May 21, 2007 05:29pm by Atilla_Beatsmith - [email protected] www.myspace.com/manwithahammer Location: the Beatcave, U.S.A.
on the real that beat doesn't even sound the same. They used the same sample....big whoop wanna fight about it?
May 21, 2007 05:44pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness, www.emceereach.com www.myspace.com/reach www.twitter.com/emceereach www.youtube.com/reachtv www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic2 www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic Location: Kansas City
There are some similarities, yes, but probably not enough for him to lay any claim that Ye stole the idea from him. Kanye has been accused in the past, and more importantly, has taken credit for beats he didn't do so I wouldn't put it past him.
May 21, 2007 09:10pm by Deta!L - I just said that so you would stop bothering me.
I don't think so either...but I will fight you Atilla when I get back to Kansas so rent the latest Rocky movie and start training
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For real, I've made beats and even written rhymes that I'll hear later used in almost the same fashion by someone else.
May 22, 2007 02:20am by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing www.dipity.com/acefadal WE ARE, Kansas City is [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]! http://crushproofstudio.bandcamp.com/ Location: Downtown, Kansas City, Mo.
I hate that ish. I got mad samples that I've heard done. but I flip it so Its mine. People act like, Ohh somebody else sampled that so I cant bust it, but emcees don't seem to care. I think it all depends on the style and how you excute it. Its like when you hear somebody ryhme over somebody elses beat, and the track is already fresh, and they makes it hotter.
May 22, 2007 02:26am by Atilla_Beatsmith - [email protected] www.myspace.com/manwithahammer Location: the Beatcave, U.S.A.
I think it's funny that people flip samples without clearing them and then act like they own the freakin loop.
May 22, 2007 02:49am by trystyl - www.myspace.com/trystyl Location: KCMO
i love to sample other shit people have used. I used to be a stuck up elite producer that would never flip anything i had heard before, but who cares. Don't get me wrong, i love to dig, but that shit is fun sometimes.
May 22, 2007 03:08am by phism
[quote:bc771b4336="Reach."]Kanye has been accused in the past, and more importantly, has taken credit for beats he didn't do so I wouldn't put it past him.[/quote:bc771b4336] i.e. "Jesus Walks" on which he didn't actually do anything but rap someone else's lyrics and i think add some drums... the entirety of that song was put together by some rehab choir, and rhymefest wrote the lyrics... there comes a point at which you can't really rightfully put your name on something. but whatever. it's the money...
May 22, 2007 01:18pm by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing www.dipity.com/acefadal WE ARE, Kansas City is [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]! http://crushproofstudio.bandcamp.com/ Location: Downtown, Kansas City, Mo.
Rememer how he was crying about his sh*t was John Blaze. Then he was ryhming over beats that weren't even his. I thought he was a cool cat at the begginging. But now personally I think his Mary J. Blige production is the best. But he had to get Dr. Dre to help him do soe of that.
May 22, 2007 02:32pm by Adoless - Myspace.com/adoless
It's interesting... One could take that as theivery but I think it was coincidence... Thanks for the download link for that comm track.
May 22, 2007 03:43pm by Deta!L - I just said that so you would stop bothering me.
I mean it is quite possible that he or one of his ghost producers watched the video and went and got the sample and redid it.....but that's just how it goes, even if he cleared the sample kanye could still use it.... either way I thought it was cool
May 22, 2007 07:34pm by Whatsgood
Kanye is a faggot and a medicore MC.
May 22, 2007 07:42pm by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing www.dipity.com/acefadal WE ARE, Kansas City is [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]! http://crushproofstudio.bandcamp.com/ Location: Downtown, Kansas City, Mo.
[quote:c4a25e952a="Whatsgood"]Kanye is a faggot and a medicore MC.[/quote:c4a25e952a] You are aware that the word "faggot" was coined by Hitler. You disgust me! Are you going to Jerry Falwells funeral? someone should protest that!
May 22, 2007 08:48pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness, www.emceereach.com www.myspace.com/reach www.twitter.com/emceereach www.youtube.com/reachtv www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic2 www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic Location: Kansas City
[quote:0ebf233e82="Whatsgood"]Kanye is a faggot and a medicore MC.[/quote:0ebf233e82] Mediocre emcee? Mediocre emcee? Mediocre emcee? No suh...
May 22, 2007 08:58pm by NRG - livin the art that is life ! www.64111clinic.com fam www.nrginmotion.com massage www.myspace.com/nrginmotion world community Location: havenhouse KCK/ 64111 Clinic 4 Life
[quote:7af4b27693="Whatsgood"]Kanye is a faggot and a medicore MC.[/quote:7af4b27693] wow, are you an artists whatsgood? What elements of hiphop are you partial to? I'm trying to understand what knowledge base you are judging Kanye by to see if you point of view resonates with thoughts I have. sooo help me out, besides lover of hiphop where you coming from with your comments?
May 22, 2007 11:39pm by DR.T - nuts .. haha Location: KCMO
[quote:ebc946af49="Whatsgood"]Kanye is a faggot and a medicore MC.[/quote:ebc946af49] What? Blasphemy!!!! Have you even heard College Dropout? That is like on my top 10 CDs of All time list!!!
May 23, 2007 02:33am by dublow - http://KCMusicScene.com www.myspace.com/dublowseven www.myspace.com/barbaricmerits http://barbaricmerits.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCgR4C6PvKw
May 23, 2007 05:07am by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing www.dipity.com/acefadal WE ARE, Kansas City is [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]! http://crushproofstudio.bandcamp.com/ Location: Downtown, Kansas City, Mo.
[quote:0a17da1604="dublow"][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCgR4C6PvKw[/url][/quote:0a17da1604] That was the shit. But if I can get the same exact sound chopping and sampling using Ableton, cubase, or Fruity Loops does it matter. No! Really. Listen! The Exact Same Sound! I want to know, does it really fukin matter? Do you care? emcee? wait im going to watch that again. If I hear a yes Im going to toss my MPC across the room.
May 23, 2007 06:58am by Whatsgood
I'm suprised so many of you give the watered down rapper a free pass. Hes an alright producer but an Emcee? Come on! his ryhmes are WEAK. College Dropout a top 10 ever?!? Dude got out shined on his own albums. Hell he wasn't even the best produced on the ROC.
May 23, 2007 09:20am by Atilla_Beatsmith - [email protected] www.myspace.com/manwithahammer Location: the Beatcave, U.S.A.
[quote:ce0e47f47f="Whatsgood"]I'm suprised so many of you give the watered down rapper a free pass. Hes an alright producer but an Emcee? Come on! his ryhmes are WEAK. College Dropout a top 10 ever?!? Dude got out shined on his own albums. Hell he wasn't even the best produced on the ROC.[/quote:ce0e47f47f] ...ummmm....ok 🙄
May 23, 2007 03:37pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness, www.emceereach.com www.myspace.com/reach www.twitter.com/emceereach www.youtube.com/reachtv www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic2 www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic Location: Kansas City
[quote:c163bbf687="Whatsgood"]I'm suprised so many of you give the watered down rapper a free pass. Hes an alright producer but an Emcee? Come on! his ryhmes are WEAK. College Dropout a top 10 ever?!? Dude got out shined on his own albums. Hell he wasn't even the best produced on the ROC.[/quote:c163bbf687] College Dropout was an instant classic and one of the all-time greats... [quote:c163bbf687]Aiyyo, two words, Chi town, South side, world wide Cuz I, rep that, till I, fuckin die One neck, two chains, one waist, two gats One wall, twenty plaques, dudes say, "Gimme that" I am limelight, Blueprint, 5 Mics Go getters rhyme like, shoulda been signed twice Most imitated, Grammy nominated Hotel accommodated, cheerleader, prom dated Barbershop, playa hated, mom and pop, bootlegged it Felt like it rained till the roof caved in Two words, Chi town, raised me, crazy So I live by two words, "Fuck you, pay me" Screamin, Jesus save me You know how the game be I can't let em change me Cuz on Judgment Day, you gon blame me Look God, it's the same me I (Throw) basically know now (Your) we could (Up) racially profile (High) Cuffed up and hosed down, pimped up and hoe down (ohhhhhh) Plus I got a whole city to hold down (ohhhhhh) From the bottom to the top The only place to go down[/quote:c163bbf687] If that rhyme is weak... I'd love to know what you think is dope. Ultimately, we can have differing opinions... I just wanna know your thought process.
May 23, 2007 05:44pm by Whatsgood
[quote:013c6989a7="Reach."][quote:013c6989a7="Whatsgood"]I'm suprised so many of you give the watered down rapper a free pass. Hes an alright producer but an Emcee? Come on! his ryhmes are WEAK. College Dropout a top 10 ever?!? Dude got out shined on his own albums. Hell he wasn't even the best produced on the ROC.[/quote:013c6989a7] College Dropout was an instant classic and one of the all-time greats... [quote:013c6989a7]Aiyyo, two words, Chi town, South side, world wide Cuz I, rep that, till I, fuckin die One neck, two chains, one waist, two gats One wall, twenty plaques, dudes say, "Gimme that" I am limelight, Blueprint, 5 Mics Go getters rhyme like, shoulda been signed twice Most imitated, Grammy nominated Hotel accommodated, cheerleader, prom dated Barbershop, playa hated, mom and pop, bootlegged it Felt like it rained till the roof caved in Two words, Chi town, raised me, crazy So I live by two words, "Fuck you, pay me" Screamin, Jesus save me You know how the game be I can't let em change me Cuz on Judgment Day, you gon blame me Look God, it's the same me I (Throw) basically know now (Your) we could (Up) racially profile (High) Cuffed up and hosed down, pimped up and hoe down (ohhhhhh) Plus I got a whole city to hold down (ohhhhhh) From the bottom to the top The only place to go down[/quote:013c6989a7] If that rhyme is weak... I'd love to know what you think is dope. Ultimately, we can have differing opinions... I just wanna know your thought process.[/quote:013c6989a7] Yea that was a good verse and a decent album but a CLASSIC? Come on man i'm gonna start posting REAL classic lyrics and they will R. Kelly piss all over that.
May 23, 2007 05:47pm by Whatsgood
[quote:b7013be60e="Atilla_Beatsmith"][quote:b7013be60e="Whatsgood"]I'm suprised so many of you give the watered down rapper a free pass. Hes an alright producer but an Emcee? Come on! his ryhmes are WEAK. College Dropout a top 10 ever?!? Dude got out shined on his own albums. Hell he wasn't even the best produced on the ROC.[/quote:b7013be60e] ...ummmm....ok :roll:[/quote:b7013be60e] I was really expecting a better response in a debate not gonna lie kinda disappointed. We can go song for song between him & Blaze if you'd like. I can also list 10 albums that are much better too.
May 23, 2007 06:30pm by E.N.Elder
"That is like on my top 10 CDs of All time list!!!" -I hope that list is all-time favorites after 2003. It was a good cd, but I can't even consider it close to top ten material, or even a classic actually. Just a good cd.
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[quote:df3d99d9da="Whatsgood"]Yea that was a good verse and a decent album but a CLASSIC? Come on man i'm gonna start posting REAL classic lyrics and they will R. Kelly piss all over that.[/quote:df3d99d9da] When I used the word "classic" it was in reference to the album that the verse was taken from and not the verse itself. You do admit that it was a quality verse though, yes?
May 23, 2007 07:03pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness, www.emceereach.com www.myspace.com/reach www.twitter.com/emceereach www.youtube.com/reachtv www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic2 www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic Location: Kansas City
[quote:6d9135d09a="Whatsgood"] I was really expecting a better response in a debate not gonna lie kinda disappointed. We can go song for song between him & Blaze if you'd like. I can also list 10 albums that are much better too.[/quote:6d9135d09a] Well... You said best "produced"... I'm guessing you meant best "producer". And you'll get no argument from me there. I've always preferred JB to Kanye.
May 23, 2007 07:24pm by Whatsgood
[quote:6b76149b0e="Reach."][quote:6b76149b0e="Whatsgood"]Yea that was a good verse and a decent album but a CLASSIC? Come on man i'm gonna start posting REAL classic lyrics and they will R. Kelly piss all over that.[/quote:6b76149b0e] When I used the word "classic" it was in reference to the album that the verse was taken from and not the verse itself. You do admit that it was a quality verse though, yes?[/quote:6b76149b0e] Indeed that was a quality verse and that was a quality album but a classic? Not so much. Kanye can be decent at times like on that song Classic his verse was dope.
May 23, 2007 09:08pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness, www.emceereach.com www.myspace.com/reach www.twitter.com/emceereach www.youtube.com/reachtv www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic2 www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic Location: Kansas City
Okay let's take it a step further, shall we? How do you define a "classic" album? What are your criteria?
May 23, 2007 09:26pm by swayzorbladez - www.myspace.com/swayzorspitsbladez
qwel is my favorite Chi emcee hands down..
May 24, 2007 07:49am by Whatsgood
[quote:4951ed62a9="Reach."]Okay let's take it a step further, shall we? How do you define a "classic" album? What are your criteria?[/quote:4951ed62a9] Its a combination of many things from lyrical content to production to replay value. How bout you?
May 24, 2007 03:20pm by beatbroker - -beatbroker HHA/Symbol Heavy/IN crew Location: KCMO
okay, kanye is certainly no "faggot" however to even give him "mediocre" emcee status is WAAAAYY too generous. don't get it twisted. dude is sub-sub-par. but what he lacks in lyrical skill he makes up for in swagger. kind of like clipse or cam'ron... 😮 ...braces for impact of flames.
May 24, 2007 04:26pm by Atilla_Beatsmith - [email protected] www.myspace.com/manwithahammer Location: the Beatcave, U.S.A.
[quote:1f5c9f8f53="swayzorbladez"]qwel is my favorite Chi emcee hands down..[/quote:1f5c9f8f53] he sucks live and disrespected kc...I don't like him as much anymore...
May 24, 2007 04:31pm by Atilla_Beatsmith - [email protected] www.myspace.com/manwithahammer Location: the Beatcave, U.S.A.
I also wanna know what WG considers classic. I wasn't saying Kanye's was classic, but the album was dope no question about it. I like Blazes older stuff more than some of his new stuff... but I still want you to tell my how Kanye is wack on the rhymes. He's definitely not the best, but tell me exactly why he's wack without resorting to unrelated insults.
May 24, 2007 05:39pm by Whatsgood
[quote:be3feb6875="Atilla_Beatsmith"]I also wanna know what WG considers classic. I wasn't saying Kanye's was classic, but the album was dope no question about it. I like Blazes older stuff more than some of his new stuff... but I still want you to tell my how Kanye is wack on the rhymes. He's definitely not the best, but tell me exactly why he's wack without resorting to unrelated insults.[/quote:be3feb6875] I told ya what makes a classic album good production, lyrical content, replay value ect. Albums like Reasonable Doubt, Blueprint, Illmatic, Ready to Die, Paid in Full, The Chronic, ect. all are classics. Maybe saying his lyrics were wack was a bit much but sub-par is a good word or even inconsistant is a good word. He came correct on that song CLASSIC with the legends. At times he just says dumb stuff that reminds me of cam'ron or something i'll try to find you a few examples.
May 24, 2007 05:56pm by beatbroker - -beatbroker HHA/Symbol Heavy/IN crew Location: KCMO
atilla. he's never uttered a phrase that even attempts to make one think. let alone hit rewind. un-inspired is the best description i could apply to his lyrics. watered down also applies. he's listenable though, due to his loosely timed delivery style (a.k.a. -swagger)
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[quote:0ea7a1f79e="Whatsgood"] Its a combination of many things from lyrical content to production to replay value. How bout you?[/quote:0ea7a1f79e] Replayability, impact, influence, lyrical content, creativity, originality... I think this album was both influential on artists who began to experiment with similar phrasing and production styles. TCD was both commercially viable (multi-platinum) & critically acclaimed. That's a difficult tandem to come by. The subject matter was innovative. His self-deprecating brand of Rap music is the antithesis of most of what comprises Top 40 radio. "Through The Wire" is as creative as any record I've heard over the last 10 years. He did a Rap record with his mouth wired shut... He satirized well-established Rap cliches. The album was visceral. "Two Words", "Never Let Me Down" and "Jesus Walks" are all memorable. And on top of all of the heartfelt material he was able to find success on the charts with a few well placed singles that ushered his listernership straight to the dancefloor. With content that wouldn't normally be conducive to radio. Put all of that together and I think you have a classic album.
May 24, 2007 07:36pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness, www.emceereach.com www.myspace.com/reach www.twitter.com/emceereach www.youtube.com/reachtv www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic2 www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic Location: Kansas City
[quote:e4af843dcc="beatbroker"]atilla. he's never uttered a phrase that even attempts to make one think. let alone hit rewind. un-inspired is the best description i could apply to his lyrics. watered down also applies. he's listenable though, due to his loosely timed delivery style (a.k.a. -swagger)[/quote:e4af843dcc] [quote:e4af843dcc]How we stop the black panthers? Ronald Reagan cooked up an answer You hear that? What Gil Scott was hearin When our heroes and heroines got hooked on heroin. Crack raised the murder rate in DC and Maryland We invested in that it's like we got Merril-Lynched And we been hangin from the same tree ever since Sometimes I feel the music is the only medicine So we cook it, cut it, measure it, bag it,sell it The fiends cop it Nowadays they cant tell if that's that good shit We ain't sure man Put the CD on your tongue yeah, thats pure man[/quote:e4af843dcc] I could play that verse over and over and over again. That is poignant.
May 24, 2007 07:55pm by beatbroker - -beatbroker HHA/Symbol Heavy/IN crew Location: KCMO
i'm glad somebody can listen to his verses repeatedly. at least it's not ALL in vain. i remain un-impressed.
May 24, 2007 08:15pm by Deta!L - I just said that so you would stop bothering me.
I like his music a lot
May 24, 2007 09:33pm by Whatsgood
His last album was meh and after hearing that Heard Em Say song I think he should be checked for having a vagina.
May 25, 2007 12:02am by Lucidialect
Kanye's not the shit. He's got his moments. He makes good songs, and the ones I like I think are excellent, some of my favorites of the last five years. But he's no where near classic to me. Qwel has his moments too. But his rhyme skills don't balance out his overblown ego. And yeah, his live performance is bad. He has some of the sickest lines I've ever heard, but I've never seen an emcee so consistently run out of breath. His head looks like an over-inflated balloon about to burst. He forgets his own lines, gets too drunk or high to spit, and is generally inarticulate and pretty much an asshole in person. Such a shame, cause some of his songs are pure genius.
May 25, 2007 12:58am by Boogie_B - www.myspace.com/headfella Location: kansas
whats wrong with heard em say? its a unique colab. he's not my favorite Emcee but i definatly feel that stuff and have bought his records. i agree that he says some stupid things sometimes, and when i say stupid i mean worthless rhymes that he pulled out of his ass.(the song celebration) but in a way i still love it ya know?.. hes pretty cool as a producer but sometimes i think he could have done more with the samples. Just my opinion.. no matter what, hes not a faggot.
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[quote:2f56881a8f="beatbroker"]i'm glad somebody can listen to his verses repeatedly. at least it's not ALL in vain. i remain un-impressed.[/quote:2f56881a8f] Ha ha... Well i tried.
May 25, 2007 03:17am by Reach. - Peace and oneness, www.emceereach.com www.myspace.com/reach www.twitter.com/emceereach www.youtube.com/reachtv www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic2 www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic Location: Kansas City
[quote:2bd88f760b="Whatsgood"]His last album was meh and after hearing that Heard Em Say song I think he should be checked for having a vagina.[/quote:2bd88f760b] What's wrong with HES?
May 25, 2007 04:26am by Lucidialect
Heard Em Say is dope.
May 25, 2007 07:21am by Whatsgood
[quote:9ac2d1796c="Reach."][quote:9ac2d1796c="Whatsgood"]His last album was meh and after hearing that Heard Em Say song I think he should be checked for having a vagina.[/quote:9ac2d1796c] What's wrong with HES?[/quote:9ac2d1796c] Just seemed fruity to me the whole singing bit and what not. Just because something is different doesnt mean its good either. I think cats are so frustraited with the direction of hip-hop we are quick to label something thats different as "good".
May 25, 2007 01:26pm by mythik - www.myspace.com/mythillogical www.myspace.com/barbaricmerits www.barbaricmerits.com Location: Kansas City
[quote:efa0bffbe5="Whatsgood"] Just seemed fruity to me the whole singing bit and what not. Just because something is different doesnt mean its good either. I think cats are so frustraited with the direction of hip-hop we are quick to label something thats different as "good".[/quote:efa0bffbe5] I'm gonna have to disagree. I don't think it's necessarily frustration, but largely boredom. It seems everyone is trying to make records now, and a good majority of them are one-dimensional rip off's that lack passion and creativity. Because someone decides to sing a hook rather than speak it, it's fruity?! Wow. Some of the most refreshing stuff I've heard lately is coming from cats who aren't trying to fit into a particular genre and are making music that means something to them and that speaks to a larger audience...ie: (Sa Ra, Emanon, IN crew, Sound In Color releases, etc)
May 25, 2007 01:27pm by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing www.dipity.com/acefadal WE ARE, Kansas City is [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]! http://crushproofstudio.bandcamp.com/ Location: Downtown, Kansas City, Mo.
[quote:99b4b488ee="Whatsgood"][quote:99b4b488ee="Reach."][quote:99b4b488ee="Whatsgood"]His last album was meh and after hearing that Heard Em Say song I think he should be checked for having a vagina.[/quote:99b4b488ee] What's wrong with HES?[/quote:99b4b488ee] Just seemed fruity to me the whole singing bit and what not. Just because something is different doesnt mean its good either. I think cats are so frustraited with the direction of hip-hop we are quick to label something thats different as "good".[/quote:99b4b488ee] Thats whats wrong with Pop-Hop culture. It brainwashes people. Then they place Artist and/or Musicians in a box. Its hard for them to comprehend the dopeness I would've love to collaborate with Johnny Cash or Ray Charles. Imagine that on some flipped sh*t. Most people who dont make music in some way or another always asking me why I would do music stuff with certain people. Whatsgood should tell smoov confusion and miles bony singing is fruity. Heard er say is a good song
May 25, 2007 02:54pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness, www.emceereach.com www.myspace.com/reach www.twitter.com/emceereach www.youtube.com/reachtv www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic2 www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic Location: Kansas City
[quote:fb9fe555ec="Whatsgood"] Just seemed fruity to me the whole singing bit and what not. Just because something is different doesnt mean its good either. I think cats are so frustraited with the direction of hip-hop we are quick to label something thats different as "good".[/quote:fb9fe555ec] You're not much for hooks sung by some crooner I take it? I can dig it. I think the song would've been solid either way, but Adam Levine added another dimension to that record. And I'm not overly quick to anoint something as quality Rap music simply because Corporate Radio stinks. I know how to turn it off. And find the music I really want. So for me... It's just my real feeling. Kanye's a different type of Rap cat. No, he's not going to smack you over your head with dazzling mechanics. That's not his bag. He's more about flow, style, presence (or as some call it, swagger) and content.
May 25, 2007 03:32pm by beatbroker - -beatbroker HHA/Symbol Heavy/IN crew Location: KCMO
[quote:b0a6badceb="Reach."]He's more about flow, style, presence (or as some call it, swagger) and content.[/quote:b0a6badceb] hmm. flow, style, presence?...okay, sure. content?... not so much.
May 25, 2007 05:43pm by Whatsgood
[quote:51440b1bba="AceFadal"][quote:51440b1bba="Whatsgood"][quote:51440b1bba="Reach."][quote:51440b1bba="Whatsgood"]His last album was meh and after hearing that Heard Em Say song I think he should be checked for having a vagina.[/quote:51440b1bba] What's wrong with HES?[/quote:51440b1bba] Just seemed fruity to me the whole singing bit and what not. Just because something is different doesnt mean its good either. I think cats are so frustraited with the direction of hip-hop we are quick to label something thats different as "good".[/quote:51440b1bba] Thats whats wrong with Pop-Hop culture. It brainwashes people. Then they place Artist and/or Musicians in a box. Its hard for them to comprehend the dopeness I would've love to collaborate with Johnny Cash or Ray Charles. Imagine that on some flipped sh*t. Most people who dont make music in some way or another always asking me why I would do music stuff with certain people. Whatsgood should tell smoov confusion and miles bony singing is fruity. Heard er say is a good song[/quote:51440b1bba] Right on. Theres a difference doin a collab with Cash or Ray Charles ya see they are both legends. That dude he did a song with won't be remembered at all and I'm not part of the "pop-hop" culture son.
May 25, 2007 06:43pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness, www.emceereach.com www.myspace.com/reach www.twitter.com/emceereach www.youtube.com/reachtv www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic2 www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic Location: Kansas City
[quote:9862d49385="beatbroker"][quote:9862d49385="Reach."]He's more about flow, style, presence (or as some call it, swagger) and content.[/quote:9862d49385] hmm. flow, style, presence?...okay, sure. content?... not so much.[/quote:9862d49385] Content is his strongest suit. And the hardest part one could argue with. "We Don't Care", "Jesus Walks", "All Falls Down", "Spaceship", "Never Let Me Down", "Heard 'Em Say", "Touch The Sky", "Crack Music", "Roses", "We Major", "Diamonds From Sierra Leone" (Remix), "We Major"... If Kanye has any redeeming qualities... Content is definitely the most admirable one. At least in my book. That and the fact that he lends credibility to artists who deserve more commercial viability than they've been given (ie. Kweli, Common). Call him 'The Great Equalizer'.
May 25, 2007 06:52pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness, www.emceereach.com www.myspace.com/reach www.twitter.com/emceereach www.youtube.com/reachtv www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic2 www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic Location: Kansas City
[quote:86c59abef4="Whatsgood"]That dude he did a song with won't be remembered at all and I'm not part of the "pop-hop" culture son.[/quote:86c59abef4] Not a fan of Adam Levine I take it?
May 25, 2007 08:51pm by Whatsgood
[quote:b653de5faf="Reach."][quote:b653de5faf="Whatsgood"]That dude he did a song with won't be remembered at all and I'm not part of the "pop-hop" culture son.[/quote:b653de5faf] Not a fan of Adam Levine I take it?[/quote:b653de5faf] Nah not so much and I don't think hes a legend like Cash or Charles. I don't think theres too many legends today in the music world possibly Jay-z and John Legend imo
May 25, 2007 10:19pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness, www.emceereach.com www.myspace.com/reach www.twitter.com/emceereach www.youtube.com/reachtv www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic2 www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic Location: Kansas City
[quote:28d75f9454="Whatsgood"] Nah not so much and I don't think hes a legend like Cash or Charles. I don't think theres too many legends today in the music world possibly Jay-z and John Legend imo[/quote:28d75f9454] No, in fact that's wrong with music. We're too quick to anoint people as the next great artist. My boy's convinced that Keyshia Cole is the next great R&B artist. I'm not sold. Not yet.
May 25, 2007 11:03pm by beatbroker - -beatbroker HHA/Symbol Heavy/IN crew Location: KCMO
reach, regardless of how many social or political topics he addresses, it dosen't change the fact that he does so a very generic, cliche, "i'm only concious cause it gets me laid" type fashion. to me, he doesn't ever come off as sincere with anything he says, it's almost as if a publicist is in his ear telling him what subjects to address in order to maintain his rapidly diminishing backpacker demographic. he's also constantly contradicting himself. for starters you can't put yourself out there as if you're opposed to blood diamonds and the evils of the world diamond-trade market only to have fat carats in your ears and around your neck at almost all times like it's nothing. i like the man's style but he makes me laugh sometimes. at least i can't say he dosen't try hard.
May 25, 2007 11:28pm by 1Sh1Da - http://www.myspace.com/sangrealnation 1Sh1Da, Elysium ... we are Hip-Hop http://crushproofstudio.bandcamp.com 1Sh1Da & Ace Fadal present 4 Tha Nation Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Whatsgood, I agree that people have a tendency to act like anything that is different is good, I hate that, I mean the only thing worse than shitty hip-hop (i.e. Jeezy) is people who replicate shitty hip-hop (i.e. half the local acts like slopp the gambla) but a definite second is hip-hop that is actually different but sucks nuts lol. But man, you are definetly looking at it the wrong way, I'm a Kanye fan but I didn't think Heard 'Em Say was his hottest track, but it didn't have nothing to do with it having a sung chorus or being pussy, it was just not that hot of a track. 1Sh1Da
May 26, 2007 04:00pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness, www.emceereach.com www.myspace.com/reach www.twitter.com/emceereach www.youtube.com/reachtv www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic2 www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic Location: Kansas City
[quote:98b1d6933f="beatbroker"] regardless of how many social or political topics he addresses, it dosen't change the fact that he does so a very generic, cliche, "i'm only concious cause it gets me laid" type fashion.[/quote:98b1d6933f] He's more than your run of the mill socio-political artist. A large portion of his material is reflective and introspective of his own life's trials and tribulations. That's an admirable quality. To be vulnerable in that way. In fact, I happen to think he's more meditative of his own experiences than is Kweli or Common for that matter (two artists I happen to like MORE than Kanye). It takes a lot of courage to be an open book in a genre that doesn't exactly deal in real life experience...at least not in the arena that major record labels are playing in. Boots gets laid just like the next Rap act. I don't know him personally to make such a distinction as to why he's chosen this particular brand of Rap music. I can say this though... If it isn't truly heartfelt I'd be almost scared to hear music from him that was. [quote:98b1d6933f]to me, he doesn't ever come off as sincere with anything he says, it's almost as if a publicist is in his ear telling him what subjects to address in order to maintain his rapidly diminishing backpacker demographic.[/quote:98b1d6933f] I disagree. I think Kanye stands smack in the middle of the great Rap divide. If he only appealed to nerds like myself I doubt entirely that he would be as commercially viable. No... He's been able to transcend and shed traditional labels and find a nice soft spot somewhere in the middle. Where Common and Talib (superior artists mind you) may have failed. Otherwise, how could he lend credibility to those artists? The biggest threat to Kanye's street credibility is his attire. Now that, I'll offer no argument for... He's a special type of cat in that regard. [quote:98b1d6933f]he's also constantly contradicting himself.[/quote:98b1d6933f] As we all do. I can't fault him for being flawed. Remember, Pac was one of the most conflicted artists in the history of our beloved genre. And frankly, I think those glaring contradictions solidified his legacy (in a weird way). [quote:98b1d6933f]for starters you can't put yourself out there as if you're opposed to blood diamonds and the evils of the world diamond-trade market only to have fat carats in your ears and around your neck at almost all times like it's nothing.[/quote:98b1d6933f] That's what makes him special though Drew. He addressed that very situation on record. Not on some obscure mixtape offering, but on his album. Most of the artists who parade diamonds around couldn't tell you what conflict diamonds were. I doubt he knew for quite some time. It was brought to his attention though. And he responded. Openly... Now how he's changed by this new information remains to be seen. But either way, I'm in no position to judge him. Oddisee is much more beholden to the ideals he puts across in his music, but he's a shoe fetishist (I've developed a fetish myself so I'm certainly not pointing fingers) despite well publicized and well documented information that sweatshops continue to operate under Nike's watch. Does that make him any less genuine or sincere? He's conflicted just like the rest of us. We all are in some way.
May 28, 2007 03:51am by Deta!L - I just said that so you would stop bothering me.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/urmd87 Kanye can't tell me nothing mixtape 01. Kanye West - Friday Morning, May 25th, 2007 (Intro) 02:17 02. Kanye West - Stronger (Snippet) 01:23 03. CRS (Lupe Fiasco, Kanye West & Pharrell) - Us Placers 03:54 04. GLC - I Ainâ€™t Even On Yet 02:36 05. Kanye West - Canâ€™t Tell Me Nothing 04:08 06. Common feat. Kanye West - Southside (Snippet) 02:22 07. Common - The Game 02:30 08. Kanye West - Porno (Interlude) 01:15 09. 88 Keys feat. Kanye West & Malik Yusef - Stay Up (Snippet) 01:50 10. Talib Kweli feat. Kanye West - In The Mood 02:32 11. Bentley feat. Pimp C & Lilâ€™ Wayne - C.O.L.O.U.R.S. 04:35 12. Kid Sister feat. Kanye West - Pro Nails 02:37 13. Kanye West - Young Folks 01:47 14. Kanye West - Interviews (Interlude) 03:31 15. Common - The People 03:25 16. Big Sean - Getâ€™cha Some 02:57 17. Consequence - Donâ€™t Forget Em 02:55 18. Sa-Ra - White! (On The Floor) 03:00 19. Ne-Yo feat. Kanye West - Because Of You (Remix) 01:35 20. T-Pain feat. Kanye West - Buy You A Drank (Remix) 02:01 21. Kanye West - Throw Some Dâ€™s (Interlude) 00:36 22. Kanye West - Throw Some Dâ€™s (Remix) 02:36 23. Tony Williams - Dreaming Of Your Love 02:52 24. Really Doe feat. Jennifer Hudson - Magnetic Power 01:47 25. PM - Hater Family 03:36
Jun 1, 2007 04:34pm by DJSKEME Location: Grandview, MO
[quote:b8fa9dd6a6="dublow"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCgR4C6PvKw[/quote:b8fa9dd6a6] DDAAAAMMNNN> I hate admiting when I'm sleeping on artists, but I got no choice. That kid is retarded.. Why hasn't he been to Beat Society?
Jun 1, 2007 05:22pm by DJSKEME Location: Grandview, MO
ANNNNDDD> On the Kanye issue. Qwel shouldn't even be mentioned in the same post as Kanye. Only Common, Lupe, or Juice. WG... Do you consider anything classic after 2000??? I think Ras Reb aka Gen. Baker referred to people like you. Beatbroker... Who do you consider classic with all those elements that you mentioned that Kanye lacks? Doesn't an MC at least get respect for mentioning all those topics that you are shunning as Pseudo-Social?? I thought that's what us underground heads were pushing/fighting for. NNOOOWWWW... once musicians actually get in the mainstream that actually are outside the box and reppin' real shit... you get at their necks? C'mon the F' on dog!! A faggot? Are you serious? Because a man discusses emotions on a track and doesn't hide from em like 50, he's gay??? That def. sounds like either a comment stemming from cliche ideals or someone trying to justify a lack of testosterone.
Jun 1, 2007 08:06pm by Whatsgood
[quote:ae56058e90="DJSKEME"]ANNNNDDD> WG... Do you consider anything classic after 2000??? I think Ras Reb aka Gen. Baker referred to people like you. [/quote:ae56058e90] Theres only been one classic album after 2000 and thats The Blueprint. How is Kayne outside the box? He hasn't really hasn't done anything new besides rap with his jaw shut.
Jun 2, 2007 03:41am by Reach. - Peace and oneness, www.emceereach.com www.myspace.com/reach www.twitter.com/emceereach www.youtube.com/reachtv www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic2 www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic Location: Kansas City
Go back and re-read my post.
Jun 2, 2007 08:24am by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing www.dipity.com/acefadal WE ARE, Kansas City is [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]! http://crushproofstudio.bandcamp.com/ Location: Downtown, Kansas City, Mo.
This topic is whack. I'm glad I havent missed anything.
Jun 2, 2007 10:43pm by Whatsgood
You're one of those people who can't enjoy anything unless there starting shit. Its an old hat to be honest.
Jun 3, 2007 02:55am by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing www.dipity.com/acefadal WE ARE, Kansas City is [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]! http://crushproofstudio.bandcamp.com/ Location: Downtown, Kansas City, Mo.
[quote:827a9a2c81="Whatsgood"]You're one of those people who can't enjoy anything unless there starting shit. Its an old hat to be honest.[/quote:827a9a2c81] Are you serious? Did you happen to read your last 57 posts mfkr? You are an unknown, you hide behind your pseudo-pop-hip-hop image on this forum. and know one says shit to you about it. but you wanna spit darts? here I am going back on my word that I would never address you again. You see, unlike you, I will say something here, whether I mean it or not. If Im venting or just saying crazy shit. People know where to find me on a Sunday night. so if there is any questions or facts that need to be addressed, I am at HH&HW, this is a know fact, and I can answer any questions. If you are of age, then know your role. You are a consumer, not a critic, not a musician, not a producer, not an emcee. sooooo......... The whole reason I said this topic was whack was because you (whatsgood) are the one perpetuating the ignorance in the post, and wise intelligent mfkrs like Reach keep trying to educate your stupid ass, and you don't get it! AF Here the post is about Kanye and a year ago were talking about if Commons "Be" was going to be a classic. maybe we're Killing Hip Hop.
Jun 3, 2007 07:07am by Lucidialect
Words are words, but how about leaving it outside of Hip hop and Hot wings? I think the point there is more to chill with one another, and recognize the culture, not dispute message board beef.
Jun 3, 2007 08:16am by Whatsgood
[quote:c6aed9c2c9="AceFadal"][quote:c6aed9c2c9="Whatsgood"]You're one of those people who can't enjoy anything unless there starting shit. Its an old hat to be honest.[/quote:c6aed9c2c9] Are you serious? Did you happen to read your last 57 posts mfkr? You are an unknown, you hide behind your pseudo-pop-hip-hop image on this forum. and know one says shit to you about it. but you wanna spit darts? here I am going back on my word that I would never address you again. You see, unlike you, I will say something here, whether I mean it or not. If Im venting or just saying crazy shit. People know where to find me on a Sunday night. so if there is any questions or facts that need to be addressed, I am at HH&HW, this is a know fact, and I can answer any questions. If you are of age, then know your role. You are a consumer, not a critic, not a musician, not a producer, not an emcee. sooooo......... The whole reason I said this topic was whack was because you (whatsgood) are the one perpetuating the ignorance in the post, and wise intelligent mfkrs like Reach keep trying to educate your stupid ass, and you don't get it! AF Here the post is about Kanye and a year ago were talking about if Commons "Be" was going to be a classic. maybe we're Killing Hip Hop.[/quote:c6aed9c2c9] You want to start shit outside Hip-Hop & Hot Wings over some internet message board stuff then go on to say i'm ignorant? Thank god for Irony.
Jun 3, 2007 02:49pm by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing www.dipity.com/acefadal WE ARE, Kansas City is [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]! http://crushproofstudio.bandcamp.com/ Location: Downtown, Kansas City, Mo.
Words [i:5dd1a6e95f]are[/i:5dd1a6e95f] Words. Let me say this. If you say something I disagree with, on a post, in a newspaper article, on the television, or on the radio, and I know who you are. You best believe Im going to call you out on that. If I see you, there will be more of these so called words. not violence. words. do you get it? I grew up when niggas was battling using their B-boy style. thats whats up. I AM Non-VIOLENT. Dont get it twisted though! Kansas City is too smaLL to be pretending like people dont know one another. We all see each other every once in a while. And... People should be held accountable. If someone came up to me and was, "those images you posted of dead Iraqi babies, really bothered me." I would talk to them about why I did it. Or should I be like' "well stay of the forum, or don't talk to me about that here, Im enjoying my wings, bitch!" would that be okay? Lucid, if I posts all over here that your tags are whack and your ryhmes are stupid. When I see you out, next time, are you and your crew, just going to show me love? and If I decide to come up to you and tell you why I said those things are you just going to walk away or want to fight me? I doubt it, I know this, I know that i can confront or conversate with you. No matter what is said here. No. I am not talking about beefing. I am saying that in the past, I have said things, and been confronted in person about those things. I was wrong about some of those things I said. i had to apologize. Peer pressure is the best pressure. My cousin from LA thinks HipHopkc.com is a joke. That is why we are stuck. Kansas City Hip Hop and HipHopKc. I love Kansas City but....... Have you seen what other Hip Hop forums are on? read what people are talking about on these sights. see how soon you come running back to HHKC. if anybody has anything the would like to chat about mano y mano. Like Men...uh talking, like I said you know where you can find me on sunday night. PEACE! AF [url]http://forum.hiphopsite.com/Forum24-1.aspx[/url] [url]http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=7bd815c4ab387bc3b047fddb3bde32b1&f=27[/url] [url]http://www.rapleagues.com/boards/[/url] [url]http://www.vanhiphop.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1[/url] [quote:5dd1a6e95f="Whatsgood"][quote:5dd1a6e95f="DJSKEME"]ANNNNDDD> WG... Do you consider anything classic after 2000??? I think Ras Reb aka Gen. Baker referred to people like you. [/quote:5dd1a6e95f] Theres only been one classic album after 2000 and thats The Blueprint. How is Kayne outside the box? He hasn't really hasn't done anything new besides rap with his jaw shut.[/quote:5dd1a6e95f] Wrong! Classic albums after 2000 for your ass Supreme Clientele Fantastic Damage and before it all ended.... [img:5dd1a6e95f]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1a/RageAgainsttheMachineRageAgainsttheMachine.jpg/200px-RageAgainsttheMachineRageAgainsttheMachine.jpg[/img:5dd1a6e95f]
Jun 3, 2007 04:30pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness, www.emceereach.com www.myspace.com/reach www.twitter.com/emceereach www.youtube.com/reachtv www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic2 www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic Location: Kansas City
Grown men should be able to exchange words and ideas. Nothing at all wrong with that.
Jun 3, 2007 05:38pm by Lucidialect
Address what you gotta, Ace, and if you have to do it at HH&HW, go ahead. It's not my thing to tell you not to.
Jun 3, 2007 05:54pm by MILES - [url]http://www.MilesBonny.com/[/url] Location: KCK
[quote:175203474c="DJSKEME"][quote:175203474c="dublow"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCgR4C6PvKw[/quote:175203474c] DDAAAAMMNNN> I hate admiting when I'm sleeping on artists, but I got no choice. That kid is retarded.. Why hasn't he been to Beat Society?[/quote:175203474c] werd. he played the MPC live at the Replay In Lawrence a few years ago.. amazing. very hard to do and / or not done well often. If he did that at beatsociety people would Sh** their pants. Beat society needs to move away from their circle..
Jun 3, 2007 11:23pm by Reach. - Peace and oneness, www.emceereach.com www.myspace.com/reach www.twitter.com/emceereach www.youtube.com/reachtv www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic2 www.cdbaby.com/cd/reachmusic Location: Kansas City
I'd love to see the guy at work live... What he did in the YT clip was just amazing.
Jun 4, 2007 02:14am by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing www.dipity.com/acefadal WE ARE, Kansas City is [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]! http://crushproofstudio.bandcamp.com/ Location: Downtown, Kansas City, Mo.
I am glad most of you understand what I am trying to say. Thank you for the validation. I am not in any way advocating any sort of un-pleasent confrontation. I goto HH&HW to chill. I WANT somebody to hold me accountable for whatever I say, if you know who I am. Imagine if Dr. Dre told everybody he was working with that he wanted to change the direction of his music, and that 50cent had to start watching what he says. He would be through. thats all.
Jun 4, 2007 02:21am by AceFadal - [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]~means To learn by doing www.dipity.com/acefadal WE ARE, Kansas City is [b:353f9d151d]k[/b:353f9d151d]inestheti[b:353f9d151d]C[/b:353f9d151d]! http://crushproofstudio.bandcamp.com/ Location: Downtown, Kansas City, Mo.
[quote:c419000862="MILES"][quote:c419000862="DJSKEME"][quote:c419000862="dublow"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCgR4C6PvKw[/quote:c419000862] DDAAAAMMNNN> I hate admiting when I'm sleeping on artists, but I got no choice. That kid is retarded.. Why hasn't he been to Beat Society?[/quote:c419000862] werd. he played the MPC live at the Replay In Lawrence a few years ago.. amazing. very hard to do and / or not done well often. If he did that at beatsociety people would Sh** their pants. Beat society needs to move away from their circle..[/quote:c419000862] Are you talking about that ALIAS show with Dose One?
Jun 4, 2007 11:18pm by NRG - livin the art that is life ! www.64111clinic.com fam www.nrginmotion.com massage www.myspace.com/nrginmotion world community Location: havenhouse KCK/ 64111 Clinic 4 Life
[quote:6e6f5957a9="AceFadal"] My cousin from LA thinks HipHopkc.com is a joke. That is why we are stuck. Kansas City Hip Hop and HipHopKc. I love Kansas City but....... Have you seen what other Hip Hop forums are on? read what people are talking about on these sights. see how soon you come running back to HHKC. if anybody has anything the would like to chat about mano y mano. Like Men...uh talking, like I said you know where you can find me on sunday night. PEACE! AF [/quote:6e6f5957a9] thanks for posting those other sites. I haven't checked them out in depth, but they are different than here. I guess that's pretty usual really. No 2 cities are the same so it stands that 2 people from different citys would be the same or see it the same way. no harm in that necia
Jun 5, 2007 01:48am by Deta!L - I just said that so you would stop bothering me.
"everybody feels a way about Ye' but at least they feel something" or some shit, this post is loooooong son!