What Distorted Said!

swayzorbladez wrote:

chill out... worst artist ever has GOTTA be MIMS... or this whole hyphy movement i'm not into.. it's just another crunk!!

Isn't MIMS from New York? Or no?

swayzorbladez wrote:

chill out... worst artist ever has GOTTA be MIMS... or this whole hyphy movement i'm not into.. it's just another crunk!!

not true.

crunk beats are typically between 60-90 beats per minute. Most of the hyphy records I've heard at least, which is not a lot, are between 100-120 beats per minute.

Stuff like that matters to DJs, at least.

DEMENCHA wrote:

swayzorbladez wrote: chill out... worst artist ever has GOTTA be MIMS... or this whole hyphy movement i'm not into.. it's just another crunk!! not true. crunk beats are typically between 60-90 beats per minute. Most of the hyphy records I've heard at least, which is not a lot, are between 100-120 beats per minute. Stuff like that matters to DJs, at least.

I've heard otherwise I heard their actually very fast (like up in like 150+bpm) it's just that they double the length of the drum loops and that ends up sounding somewhat slow...

But it's funny because a lot of the beats that I hear from the south are CRAP! And they all end up being like 140 bpms exactly... and for anyone whose familiar with FL studio....when you open up the program the default BPM is 140. Meaning these ametuers who are making this bull....don't even know how to change the bpms on their beats. And its know doubt everybody nowadays are using either ACID, FL Studio, Reason, or Pro Tools for their beats. And most people in general are most likely just like getting bootleg copies of Fruity loops from their cousin and making these bullish beats in like 2 minutes (using all these presets sounds) and getting these huge record deals.... from bullish.... I mean c'mon if you have the program...for goodness sake ... learn how to actually USE what ever you got and stop cheap about it...

I can go on about this forever.....

The south doesn't have too many really nice producers anyhow. The best people come from other spots in the country.....(ei....everywhere else)

Since I hate to complain without leaving solutions....

I think the south just needs to settle down, work on their craft, and stop trying to get famous in five minutes. Then people will stop dissing them on the lack of creativity.

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But it's funny because a lot of the beats that I hear from the south are CRAP! And they all end up being like 140 bpms exactly

I have no idea what you're talking about. Obviously you can count a beat in double time, and that's what would turn a beat at 70 bpms into a beat at 140 bpms.

But I don't know what you're trying to say.

As a side note, I'd like to give props to UGK for inspiring all these Southern rappers who can't even get on their level.

UGK = dope

Southern rap gets hated on for the same reason East Coast elitists hated on Death Row. And now Death Row shit is classic.

Maybe I'll write an article about it one day.

Shout out to Miles Bonny for schooling me on stuff like this.

Simple beats are often the best. Some vocalists can fill a simple beat with a basic bassline and make it sound like it's the best beat out.

From what I've heard hyphy is actually from the bay area...guess it's what E-40 was doing well over 10 years ago....oddly enough if you looked through what i was listening to back then it was mostly bay area hip hop.

Maybe getting old or whatever, but there's some damn good hip hop and music north, east, west, and south......always has been and always will be. Something I'd like to see is "best song of all time". I wanna hear something inspiring, something that makes me say.....damn that's why I love hip hop

Yes, hyphy is a bay thing.

But didn't MIMS say in "this is why i'm hot" "I represent New York/ I got it on my back" ?

Is there some misconception out there that MIMS is from the bay?

Or am I turning this into a big miscommunication?

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DEMENCHA wrote:

Quote: But it's funny because a lot of the beats that I hear from the south are CRAP! And they all end up being like 140 bpms exactly I have no idea what you're talking about. Obviously you can count a beat in double time, and that's what would turn a beat at 70 bpms into a beat at 140 bpms. But I don't know what you're trying to say.

In other words....most southern production is WAY too simple for my taste....

wow hatin on the south. south been holding it down for a while now. I need to know what's south and what's not in your mind T. cuz I have heard some good music, make me wanna dance music, and alot of the time I ain't feeling the lyrics to it as much as the beat.

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In other words....most southern production is WAY too simple for my taste....

okay now I'm hearing that its a beatmaker to beatmaker style issue.

I have to agree with Distorted about simple being best in that as a massage person, I know from chinese medicine the quote so simple and yet so profound

makes me think that the roots of so much music that is termed american has truly been birthed and nurtured in the south be it jazz funk soul gospel, now termed american these lines lead back to africa and the jembe and chant singing or cadance.

so I will never knock simple becuz the merit of lineage, experience, depth and raw basic structuringr rules the day everytime.

I ageee with Dr. T on this one... Yanno I heard this track Kanye did for Rick Ross it was actually DECENT. I don't think a rapper lile Lil Boosie could handle a well produced beat he wouldn't know what to do.

most of these discussions are based on taste, what moves you, and what your ear likes to hear or relates to. that's cool and while I enjoy these discussions they are not hard truth they are subjectively based

so the hatin part is really personal truth not fact but mos def fun for a minute

NRG wrote:

T. said Quote: In other words....most southern production is WAY too simple for my taste.... okay now I'm hearing that its a beatmaker to beatmaker style issue. I have to agree with Distorted about simple being best in that as a massage person, I know from chinese medicine the quote so simple and yet so profound makes me think that the roots of so much music that is termed american has truly been birthed and nurtured in the south be it jazz funk soul gospel, now termed american these lines lead back to africa and the jembe and chant singing or cadance. so I will never knock simple becuz the merit of lineage, experience, depth and raw basic structuringr rules the day everytime.

I agree, most (good) American music originated from the south.....and it's this fact that makes me ask..... "What Happened?" if most of the best music in general is coming from the south...why are most of their producers and stuff sounding well.....childish. I mean from a "dancers" stand point I can see the perks of listening to to it....because it's real nice hype type stuff....I give the south props for that. But you'd think with a history so rich in raw talent....they'd come up with better stuff than they have been. I mean....why is all the soulful sounding production coming from like the midwest and east coast...even other countries...when a good portion of Funk and Soul and Jazz ORIGINATED FROM THE SOUTH!!! Thats like Taco Bell making The Big Mac better than MacDonalds! But then you got these southern dudes saying these "Cat in the Hat" rhymes over these Ringtone beats .... wtf man?

Now they're are some artist from there that give the south a good name. But a good portion of the other artist from there are HORRIBLE. I think the newcomers to the music biz, that are from the south...need to tap into those southern roots...and come out with better music.

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